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The RIAA wants to make CD ripping illegal

article published on 30 December, 2007

In the latest RIAA lawsuit against a P2P file sharer, some new, disturbing facts have come to light. It turns out the RIAA wants to make CD ripping, the act of copying music from a legally purchased CD to your PC, illegal. Jeffrey Howell, an Arizona man accused of keeping a 2000 song collection on his computer, is accused of keeping "unauthorized copies of copyrighted recordings", music ... [ read the full article ]

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windsong
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30. December 2007 @ 19:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Because its illegal doesn't make it wrong.

Because its legal doesn't make it right.
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30. December 2007 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ill secound that point lol :)
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30. December 2007 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by windsong:
Because its illegal doesn't make it wrong.

Because its legal doesn't make it right.
But if its illegal then you can get sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars for ripping your LEGALLY purchased CDs.
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30. December 2007 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by the article...:
Despite the position that ripping CDs is the same as "stealing music" (as an RIAA lawyer put it)
I don't quite see how anyone with even a modicum of common sense can see that as correct, RIAA lawyer (just proved my point) or not.

I rip my CDs so I can carry round an iPod full of legally paid-for music instead of a CD player + CDs. That obviously makes me a criminal...

As ridiculous as ever.
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30. December 2007 @ 20:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
History tells us that there will always be someone. or some organisation, that sooner or later will want to bend your mind, or put their hands in your pockets. Governments of diverse colors have tried it,and in some cases nearly achieved it, until the people rose and said " enough is enough." Those of us with long memories will remember the " Fifth Column", the American Nazi organisations, etc. etc.
I was advocating, some time back, getting back at those sonsabitches, by stopping all commerce with anything they have their fingers in, but no one listened. Maybe now, after this latest affront, people will open their eyes and see what is being done to them. Or, at least, I hope so.
For one year, stop buying. Then they will go to the law to force the public to buy. Fourth Reich yet!
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30. December 2007 @ 20:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll get my gramophone working again Caruso all day long.
Lunatic fringe.
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30. December 2007 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
another stupid idea that is IMPOSSIBLE to enforce.
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30. December 2007 @ 20:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hhahahah well, I GUESS I JUST BROKE THE LAW ACCORDING TO THE RIAA.


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30. December 2007 @ 20:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As stupid as it sounds , this is actually already the law in the anally repressed UK - it's illegal to make a copy of your own legally bought CD in any format including MP3s. I often scratch my head when I see all the MP3 players by Sony, Apple etc for sale and wonder how they get away with that ? What will they do next ? Sue Microsoft for allowing WMP to rip audio CDs ?

I decided it must be a case of although it's illegal on the statute books, everybody recognises how absurd it is including the Police and turns a blind eye.

Everybody except the RIAA etc, if they get the law changed and enforced their way , then everybody stops buyng music as they have nothing to play on their ipods etc and then the RIAA pays millions of dollars for an ass-licking media research institute to say the sales drop is due to illegal copying !!! Too crazy for words.
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30. December 2007 @ 20:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Next the RIAA is going to say that inserting a legally bought CD in a PC drive is illegal because you will be in the act of piracy. I mean really whats the difference between ripping a CD you own to your PC for later playback and playing the actual cd in the optical drive each time?
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30. December 2007 @ 21:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess now when you get pulled over by the police, they will check to see if you have burned cd's..lol....The RIAA can kiss my azz!!
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30. December 2007 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They don't even understand that if you stop people from copying their CDs to other devices, it translates to fewer CD sales. I never listen to a CD straight from the CD. I always listen to the song from my hard drive or my MP3 player. If they stop me from doing that, there's no point in me buying the CD anymore - I wouldn't use it. They are really getting so blinded with greed that they can't even see clearly enough to rip people off properly anymore. It's sickening.
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30. December 2007 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
God I hope the RIAA gets burned on this. They really do need a swift kick in the ass.

I mean, how long has CD ripping been around? Quite a while!! And NOW its so-called illegal to do so?

Money is the devil. And look how it can destroy people in general.
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30. December 2007 @ 22:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How in hell did they find this guy is the real question. They must have been snooping---ILIEGALLY invading his privacy to find him. They didn't say he was downloading or uploading or anykind of file-sharing at all.

They had to have been illegally hacking aroudn somehow. THIS definitely needs a closer look. I'd like to know how they caught this guy.

Also, I have I-Tunes and Napster. I buy a song, I'm allowed by I-Tunes and Napster to burn all of those PURCHASED songs onto my CD-Rs if I coose to.

If I BUY something, like a physical CD, I OWN it. I can gove it to someone who did not pay for it, say for CHRISTMAS...or I can melt it in my microwave oven, or I can rip it to my hard drive.

Congress would have to pass a law outlawing it. Until a law if drafted, proposed and voted on by congress, or local state legislatures, the RIAA can SAY whatever the hell they want. It's been legal all along, since CD burners, or Cd to cassette recordings were available. It's common sense that If I buy something, I own it, it's mine.

I'm a mobile DJ, I have 1.5 million songs in my hard drive that I access while working.

I paid for all of them over the past 25 years (I'm 46 uears old).

I've bought many of the CD's on vinyl, then on CD and then i've relaced worn out CD's many time too.

I can only play 60 to 80 songs a night. I get paid $200 to $500 per night. This is how I choose to make a living and the RIAA idea that ripping is illegal wouold put the ENTIRE DJ business out of business over nite if their thought were to become the law of the land.

Bars would close down, restarants would go out of business...IPOD would cease to be sold, CDR makers DVD and CD recorder manufacturers---jesus, the entire home entertainment business would utterly collapse.

The RIAA, what an inane and insane group of fools and idiots.
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30. December 2007 @ 22:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if cd ripping becomes illegal i am firing up limewire and downloading 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 songs, and downloading every movie made on bitorrent, and I won't buy another CD, DVD, or legal download ever again.
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30. December 2007 @ 22:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cd ripping illegal... that?s only a few decades to late. What?s the riaa's next move going to be? Confiscate all vcrs and burn them? Oh and cassette tapes to, don't forget the 8 tracks.

Seriously to try and enforce something like this now makes them look like a senile relative. They say some crazy things that for the most part just make people laugh, but you still just nod and smile.
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30. December 2007 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So I am not allowed to have a music library on my pc? that is g@y!!
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30. December 2007 @ 23:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have an Ipod but I don't have a CD player in car, if the RIAA wants to make CD ripping illegal then I will never buy another CD ever again because I won't be able to play my Ipod music through my stereo.
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30. December 2007 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I happen to be on a forum with the RIAA's main lawyer (Ira Schwartz) on this case, there is a big thread going on there about it and he keeps bitching to the MODS to lock/delete it but hasn't happened, he has turned off his PM's. At first he tried to play it off like a joke, now I don't think he will be a active member there... Oh yea, there also was a thread not to long ago about "How many MP3's you have" sorta a bragging thread, it happens to be gone now.

Seriously next, I will be allowed to play a PAID FOR disk at a party or will all the guests have to bring their own copy? Ummm, how about separate copies for the home, car, work?

I just pry for the day more artists follow some indie band and release things out into the wild by themselves. I would much rather pay the artist direct rather than the music companies getting their cut, then the stores, then ect, ect. Give the artists 100% they are the ones doing the work, sure they would have to pay manufacturing costs but I think they would be happier with 85% rather than X.XX%
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30. December 2007 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they did try to make selling used CDs/tapes illeagle too...
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31. December 2007 @ 00:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well teh RIAA needs to pay for my CDs. Damn. Then they need to take the CD and some how cram the song onto my iPod. this is something else.
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31. December 2007 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Suck my BallZ!

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This is their strategy.
Use the arbitrary nature of our corrupt and incompetent legal system to expand their power to Hitler-like proportions, while bankrupting honest people with junk lawsuits rubber-stamped by the crooked circuit judges and clueless Hollywood-sucking politicos that they've bought.

The RIAA is made up of lying, thieving, arrogant, elitist, subhuman filth.
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31. December 2007 @ 02:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mspurloc:
This is their strategy.
Use the arbitrary nature of our corrupt and incompetent legal system to expand their power to Hitler-like proportions, while bankrupting honest people with junk lawsuits rubber-stamped by the crooked circuit judges and clueless Hollywood-sucking politicos that they've bought.

The RIAA is made up of lying, thieving, arrogant, elitist, subhuman filth.
word. you are a god amongst men my friend :D

people all over hte world are dying and yet hte RIAA want to beat at their own countrymen by suing them to hell. they need to stop and focus my and OUR taxpayer money elsewhere.

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31. December 2007 @ 02:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok the RIIA it's getting more stupid by the minute, but if the congress actually passes a law enforcing the idea that ripping your own paid cd's is illegal, they would prove once and for all, that the congress it's full of idiots, and the people should rise to kick them out, plain and simple.
 
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