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The RIAA wants to make CD ripping illegal
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 30 December, 2007
In the latest RIAA lawsuit against a P2P file sharer, some new, disturbing facts have come to light. It turns out the RIAA wants to make CD ripping, the act of copying music from a legally purchased CD to your PC, illegal.
Jeffrey Howell, an Arizona man accused of keeping a 2000 song collection on his computer, is accused of keeping "unauthorized copies of copyrighted recordings", music ... [ read the full article ]
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tester22
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1. January 2008 @ 15:39 |
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There are some in this world who truly deserve to die. Those that qualify are the ones impeding the harmonious, "live and let live" lives of the average joe out there. In addition, they are the same ones who are trying to 'control' everything they can for their own personal gain (i.e. glory, power, money) but disregarding the well being of the community as a whole. Once you go this route and take this mentality, then you have labeled yourself as one who does not promote creativity, construction and creation and therefore you are impeding, destroying or 'taking away' from civilization and the world does not go 'round and 'round when destruction is prevalent and therefore they should be eliminated.
In the words of Antonio Banderas in the movie 'Desperado'........"It is easier to destroy than to create". If only all people followed the Golden Rule..."Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" then the world would be a good place.
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1. January 2008 @ 15:49 |
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Let's all go back to audio cassettes, you can't "Rip" those to the computer, they last a very long time, are more compact then CDs, hold 120 Minutes of music vs. 80 minutes, and the quality is true uncompressed audio.
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theman2
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1. January 2008 @ 15:54 |
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How did the RIAA find out about this guy? We should all stop buying music and show the RIAA that we wont put up with this crap!!!! If I own a CD and want to put it on my mp3 player, then I should have that right.
I remember joining Itunes and bought music but I could only put it on an IPod, Screw that!!! I didn't have an IPod and didn't feel like spending $200.00 at the time. I think the RIAA is going to cut off their nose despite their face.
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duke8888
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1. January 2008 @ 17:02 |
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This is a bunch of crap again from them. I remember a few years back they tried to get a tax added to all blank media but it failed. This will fail as well.
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1. January 2008 @ 18:42 |
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the RIAA are d###heads fu## them, i make copy's of everything i have incase they get scratched of damaged i will not stop.
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varnull
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1. January 2008 @ 18:46 |
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Do the RIAA own every cd released on the planet? NO!!.. so they should butt out..
Same for the MPAA.. they have no rights over Russian and Chinese films released in other places than the USA do they??
Yankee imperialism will not be tolerated!!!
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Chavo
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1. January 2008 @ 21:45 |
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RIAA is full of it. Long ago I won free songs from a Pepsi promotion from Itunes and tried to upload to my MP3 player but found out the songs from Itunes are only able to be uploaded and played on an Ipod. I had to download the songs I purchased from Limewire in order to play them on my MP3 player. C'mon RIAA, don't attempt to make CD ripping illegal because people will rip their music regardless. I personally like to purchase CD's that includes a DVD music video or miscellaneous extras. RIAA use your brains and think outside the box.
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mikecUSA
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1. January 2008 @ 23:13 |
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The RIAA is gasping for life. The lifeline they had, the record label-physical media paradigm is over. Selling music online is a profitable ---TOTALLY profitable proposition. No manufacturing costs--no distribution costs, no faulty product returns, no excess product gathering dust in warehouses waiting to be destroyed (that cost money too) and no more A& R guys having to hawk product. The internet is more profitable than any other medium. That's why the RIAA is so desperate to squash what is still an infant industry. Now that a secure method of selling unencrypted/no DRM crippled music is available (can anybody say LED ZEPPELIN CATALOG) through online methods there is no turning back from a customer point of view. Itunes and Napster love the new paradigm--customers are in love with it...three out of four major labels are with it----RIAA EFF U!
Michael Cowles
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BarryEW
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1. January 2008 @ 23:15 |
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I am from Canada, our Prime Minister, the right honorable Joe Harper, was on National TV today and admitted that he likes to listen to his 70's TOONS that he has put on his I-Pod, what a RIPP!! OH! the shame of it all!! OLD Joe is not quite so honorable to me anymore, wait till the RIAA hears about this, an ally in the "Ripping Wars" has turned to the dark side.
You know, now that the initial shock has wore off, maybe Mr. Harper is not so bad a feller after all, and since I'm a RIPPER too, he just might get my vote.
Happy New Year!!
BarryEW
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chinpark9
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2. January 2008 @ 04:12 |
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Now, I am curious. Up to now, calling something illegal was mostly a matter of righteous law, maybe, but also a matter of conscience. A properly brought up person would know from infancy what the difference would be between right and wrong
It would appear that, these days, illegality is what fat men smoking cigars and drinking bourbon, scotch or whatever, decide will be good for the economy of their companies, and a pox on whether what they say is morally right, or not.
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cousinkix
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2. January 2008 @ 04:34 |
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Quote:
?! What are you talking about?!
Crooked cops sell drugs; so they can throw people in jail for using them. Record companies and movie studios sell CD/DVD burners; so they can bitch about thieves stealing their copyrighted materials.
I see a constant deluge of pirated concert recordings and phony import albums (that aren't even in the SCHWANN catalogs) for sale on EBAY all the time. Thieves sell counterfeit releases, for three times what they would nornmally cost over the counter. The artists get nothing here! Meanwhile, these brainless RIAA lawyers go crazy about customers who buy their products and rip them to their IPODs. What a crock of BS...
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2. January 2008 @ 13:51 |
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thats why i dont buy CD'S anymore..............
screw these people, it never ends........
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2. January 2008 @ 17:52 |
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Being more of a lurking member, I read a lot of articles but don't really comment. But this is just wrong what is happening here. I can't see how something that was purchased can have restrictions on it. I think that this should go into fair use. Really I'm speechless. I hope that all of the artist realize what is happening and that if they don't leave these companies that are holding on to old business they will end up losing. I just wish that America was a true republic.
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2. January 2008 @ 18:03 |
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This is really crap because if i buy a CD i should be and have the right to do what i want with it however i understand do not make copies and sell the product but you should be allowed to put the songs on your computer or transfer to an ipod or something this is common sense to me however the riaa is taking the fun out of listening to music. Music should take your stresses away not add to them.
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EricCarr
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2. January 2008 @ 18:15 |
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This tactic is because they cannot shut down peer to peer or torrent operations. They never had a problem with recording your albums to cassette for some reason, but now ripping to play in your MP3 player a crime? WTF?
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mikecUSA
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2. January 2008 @ 19:31 |
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They (RIAA & MPAA) actually had quite the sh*t fit when audio recorders and Video recorders were firt instroduced in the 70's.
Reel to Reel recorders weren't an issue because the existence of Reel to reel predates both the RIAA and MPAA. It was the primary instrument for creating original recordings in music studio and of course radio station production studios.
All early television use3d actual film cameras.
It wasn't until consumer recording became cheap and inexpensive that the RIAA and MPAA started on the warpath.
The first Cassette recorders and Sony Betamax were the catalyst for the war on consumers waged by the RIAA.
Reel To Reel recorders were made available to consumers in the 60's and 70's and were considered high end and expensive and hence not considered any sort of threat to the record labels.
So yeah, the RIAA always had a stick up it's ass about even home TAPING, recording radio shows with a microphone.
The real Irony is the the only major label member 0f the RIAA that still has a bug up it's ass about the music and PC paradigm is SONY the actual harbinger of the consumer home taping revolution of not just Audio, but Video as well.
As a DJ I've purchased all of the Led Zeppelin stuff on 33 rpm LP's as well as CD's many time over the years.
This year Led Zeppelin released their entire catalog on I-Tunes and Napster (as well as many other legal sites too). I could have got their catalog off limewire, edonkey or any other illegal site, but I paid my $100 and got the entire set, with no need to grab a cassette recorder, or a Bunch of Bland CD's or a blank DVD. I can play it staraight away right on my little portable DJ laptop.
I-Tunes (serving as the distributer) made money as did Atlantic records (the original record company that had signed Led Zep back in the 60's) so who wins with the legal internet store/label/computer/consumer paaradigm? Everybody BUT the RIAA.
The members of the RIAA are not needed in the age of DRM free music sales.
People value music economically. I think even the most profligate priate hobbiest would be willing to pay for the music/movies/games he enjoys and appreciates --- and I'm sure even currently already does.
Back before music could be easily copied and shared (tapes/CDR's) the quality was much better. Now that people can screen new tunes for free BEFORE they buy, only the best stuff will get purchased, so the emphasis will once again be on quality. The Onus for record company profits will be on finding, and promoting and selling greatly talented artists that the public will eagerly spend their hard earned money on.
EFF the RIAA and MPAA!!!!!!!!
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theman2
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2. January 2008 @ 21:01 |
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Goes to show that BIG BIDNASS(business) and GOMENT(government) writes laws and rewrites laws to benefit themselves and they only pick and choose which laws to enforce. We got laws on immigration but they don't enforce those because slave labor benefits BIG BIDNASS, but they can easily make laws to prevent you from ripping your own store bought CD to put on your MP3 player. Whats this world coming to?
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2. January 2008 @ 22:29 |
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ok everyone lets break it down ... first... how did they even know that this guy had any music on his computer dosnt that like scare anyone.....? second ... lets talk about fair use policy where does it say that we can make a copy .... it dosnt sorry but we have all agreed to this ... third ...but who said we can copy and alter the origonal format to use ...(aka) mp3 sorry again it cant be done legally .. ok so we are buying a media that has faults and is prone to being scratched... not kewl waste of money... so now we have mp3s available as a download if we buy them but we become victum to a virus, dmr or some other issue that can wipe them from our machines.. sad but true.. so if they would garrentee the cd to last or not scratch or have some open door trogen (mp3) we would be happy but they know that we the people will do as we are given to the options of what they are willing to sell us for a few more dollars.... see its always been about the money and now they are asking to tie up our court systems with lawsuits that will amount to nothing, will they next be checking our laptops in our homes to see if we have any music on them we its hard to do that unless they hack into our systems and then they to should be able to be sued as terroist... food for thought everyone if they hack my machine they will find music I have created myself with a watermark and I will sue them for invassion of privicy... to a tune of 50 million to start and from there I wont care because my summer house will be their office....... and they will be scrubbing the floors if the ever want to work again..... yes we are all pissed due to the issues that face the world and our tunes seem to be the last stand but maybe with the current administration we can see the light ... its time for a change ... get someone in charge who recogonises this as a waste of tax payers money and start charging the companys for even filing them man its time we all stand up and were counted and maybe the world can hear a voice of reason.... just let go of it most of buy music be it many forms cds music dvds and mp3s tos a big wold out there how about selling us a alblum that has more then 2 out 18 songs that maybe worth our time listioning to..... I'd buy that ...
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neo1000
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3. January 2008 @ 00:05 |
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In the US border with Mexico they´re checking if you carry burned cd´s and they´ll fined you don´t matter if you purchased that music legally,a nephew of a friend got fined for $5000 so everytime we go to the US got to leave our cd´s in our houses..way to go NAZIS
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Amir89
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3. January 2008 @ 01:27 |
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I love how the RIAA seems to think that devoting National Security resources and task forces against finding single Mum's with Mp3's is a more productive use of resources than going after extremists with MP5's and Semtex.
The amount of money and resources that has been wasted on their bullshit campaign would be astounding. With all that cash they could developed some new, proprietary DRM format for all music record companies to use or something, instead of bitching and whining to the Supreme Court.
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Mez
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3. January 2008 @ 06:42 |
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Somehow I forgot to put my 2 cents in.
They will never get away with that one. They will have to butt heads with the companies that profit by ripping as well as the public. Even the sleaziest politician would have reservations changing a cornerstone law that could destroy the modern world. The implication to that law is nothing should be copied! To do it correctly they would need to eliminate copy machines and computers. Everything ought to be hand written. Probably CD and other recording technology should be banned as well. The only way to hear music should be live music.
They have come to the realization that ripping is the worst thing for their industry. It took them long enough! Even if a user never shares the music still they have their music in a form that does not wear out. They liked the good old days where listeners would have to pay for there music several times because their vinyl; of tape would wear out.
They figure they will try to change the copywrite law to abolish fair use. Maybe they ought to seize the libraries because they have copy machines. Book publishers are less short sighted then the music industry. They prefer not to alienate their customers. I say lobby to cut the copywrite down to 5 years instead of a century.
The biggest shame is the music industry is in the golden age for making a profit. They just need to sell good quality at a good price. They just can't grow out of the mind set that they have to make a killing every time they sell something. This will kill them!
Gradical, RIAA has attacked HD radio they are getting payments because HD radio has CD quality. HD radio is not close to CD quality but the RIAA as a great imagination.
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craftyzan
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3. January 2008 @ 08:00 |
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The guys who make recording media will just say it's for recording other things like podcasts and lectures and all that bogus....
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mikecUSA
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3. January 2008 @ 11:04 |
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I can't recall the last time I burned a disc. I even have a SONY VAio with a Blu-Ray Disc burner in it. No BRD-R's,CD-R's, definitely no DVD-R's. I just have no need for them anymore. Ironic, since I never owned a computer and rarely used one until I found out about CD recorders back in 1995. If not for the invention of the PC -CD recorder, I never would have even bought a computer.
Now I can't live with out I-Tunes, NAPSTER Drudge Report, Jeff Rense, EBAY, AMAZON and my personal addiction AFTERDAWN.COM---I love my computers!
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DVDdoug
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3. January 2008 @ 18:18 |
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I suspect this story is NOT TRUE! The court documents claim that Jeffrey Howell had copied music into a SHARED KAZAA folder!
Three of RIAA's four major members are now selling non-DRM downloads. They would not be doing that if they wanted to stop people from making personal copies. Perhaps one of the RIAA's lawyers misstated the RIAA's position.
The fact is, personal copying is legal in the U.S.A. per the Audio Home Recording Act (as long as you don't crack copy protection). If the RIAA wants to change this, they will have to lobby congress to change the law.
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