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DVD Shrink....help!!
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six.6.six
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14. January 2004 @ 09:42 |
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ScubaPete :
Isnt DVD2One the one that is just abunch for freeware programs zipped together, like 6-7 programs. If its the one im thinking, you got ripped off and should get your money back. What programs did it give you???
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ScubaPete
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14. January 2004 @ 10:00 |
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See that Doc ?
You talk about Steve, and out of the woodwork here he comes -
Steve, 'ole Buddy - Have ya thought about washing everything in a basin H2SO4 ??
It'll clean up all those electrical connections - LOL
I have NO suggestions at all except strip it all down, and start with a spec sheet to make sure that everyone will play with each other well during recess -
Best wishes,
Pete
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ScubaPete
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14. January 2004 @ 10:37 |
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six.6.six,
I think you mean 321's DVD XCopy and Xpress. very true about that. They just wrapped it up in a fancy box spent a bundle for advertising and made a bundle - wish I had those $$$ ;-(
DVD2One is a pretty good program, using DVDShrink 3.0 Beta 5 (I haven't tried the 3.1 version yet, should do fine) and DVD2One I'm able to make what I cmall my "Saturday Night Special". That would be 3 full length DVD movies of pretty good quality on 1 disc so that I don't have to get off my butt to change discs, now THAT's what I call lazy !!! :-))
"P"
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six.6.six
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14. January 2004 @ 10:45 |
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ScubaPete:
ROFLMAO!LOL LOL LOL!
Im right there with you the only reason i have kids is in case i loose a remote or need a beer lol!
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six.6.six
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14. January 2004 @ 10:54 |
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ScubaPete:
I just looked in my shared folder dont see it anymore but there is a company out there selling a program for like $15.00 and all it is...FREEWARE, got it of kazza it actually has, DVD Decrypter and Smart Ripper in it and a couple other programs they dont even try to hide it they are just zipped all in one folder.
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ScubaPete
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14. January 2004 @ 11:13 |
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See that -
It's what I always said, "I would much rather pay money for something than get it for nothing. My Mother always told me, "You can't get something for nothing."". I always listen to Mom !
"P"
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drchips
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14. January 2004 @ 11:18 |
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Hiya Guys,
An OLD Poem for ya:
"Poor old Johnny's dead and gone,
we ne'er shall see him more.
For what he thought was H20,
was H2SO4."
Remember that one, Pete?
You also forgot to advise NOT USING rubber gloves, coz the chemicals interfere with the delicate rubbing you have to do with your fingers on the gold contacts WHILE they are under the surface:
ALSO, a LARGE handful of STRONG washing soda will speed the "cleaning" process nicely - LMAO.
WARNING: for those of you who have forgotten or have not yet learned your CHEMISTRY LESSONS, the above paragraph WAS IN JEST - DO NOT TRY IT.
six.6.six:
welcome to our little thread, nice to meet a new person.
steve38:
glad to see you are still with us, welcome back.
Still flummoxed, Eh!
The bit about memory speeds - a P4 2.8 with HyperThreading is an 800 bus cpu, which is quad-pumped (the base speed is 200 MHz) 200 x 4 = 800.
The memory (PC2700) is 333MHz, which LOOKS fast enough at first glance, but remember, it is DDR memory, which is 166 x 2 == 332 (all approx figures), which means its base speed is 166MHz.
See the possible problem?
CPU base speed is 200MHz.
RAM base speed is 166MHz.
Therefore, there may be a timing issue, yes?
As Pete said, you might have to strip it down and start again from first principles (so to speak).
I can understand your frustration, but these things are not plug-and-go, mature technology, commodity components, if they were everybody would be screwing together their own PC's.
Ummm.. Hang on!, they ARE...
Getting it wrong is SO easy, and expensive too.
You have my sympathy, even though it is many years since I had to go through such a learning process I can remember it well.
Dealing effectively with such a complex problem as yours (it is complex because there are so many possibilities and variable, so many of them inter-dependant) will require hands-on, which is difficult to do here.
As to your NEW DVD BURNER problem:
Let me guess....
You took your old one out, put the new one in its place, fired up and tried it - yes?
Oh, dearie-me!
What you SHOULD have done is removed the old one from the Device Manager first, un-installed all software that accessed it (burning programs, ASPI etc).
THEN
swapped them over.
Try the un-installs, remove the drive, boot up and let it settle,
then shut down, insert the drive and re-install.
Maybe that will sort it (if you haven't frelled it too much, that is).
We shall help where we can.
Have Fun...
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steve38
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14. January 2004 @ 15:42 |
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DrChips,
You're good...lol!! How dumb of me to just take the other out and not have set the new one up fresh. I guess I was in a hurry, and forgot the fundamentals. Makes me look like I don't know what I am doing, but most of the time I do....lol. Anyway, thanks for reminding me about that simple fact, because after I set the new one up in the BIOS, it works fine. As for the other problem, I see where u are coming from, but like I said before, the motherobard manufacturer suggested that RAM type with that cpu. But you are right with the bus speed of the board and the speed of the Memory, there seems like there could be a problem. Like I said before though, Clone DVD works fine, but DVD Shrink has the issue problem. Why would one program seem to shrink the movie files fine and the other not. Just does not make sense. Wish I knew what the deal was with DVD Shrink not working. I have tried it on a couple of other computers and DVD Shrink works fine. Even built another computer for a friend of mine and DVD Shrink works fine on his as well, but does not have the faster board and the faster processor. Thank you everyone for your time and your help. It is much appreciated!!
Steve
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drchips
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14. January 2004 @ 16:06 |
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Hiya,
steve38:
we all have our Homer moments at times, glad I could help.
Have you tried disabling HyperThreading??
Have Fun...
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steve38
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15. January 2004 @ 11:36 |
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Dr. Chips:
Actually I had tried to disable the hyperthreading...still no such luck. He is sticking with Clone DVD for now because it seems to work fine....that is so weird to me. Anyway, since you seem to be very knowledgeable, I have another one for you if you don't mind. I installed a new 8x I/O Magic DVD burner on my friends computer, and he is running Windows 2000. When he goes to decrypt one of his movies, it decrypts at a read rate of about 1.7x. and takes approximately about an hour to decrypt. When I run it on my Windows XP system it usually reads at a rate of between 4 and 5 times and decrypts between 20 and 30 minutes. Is there some setting in Windows 2000 that is limiting his read speed?? We set it up in Decrypter at the max speed. Not sure if there is a properties setting somewhere in 2000 that needs to be changed or what. His system is pretty fast and has 1 gig of DDR memory, so I am not too sure what to tell him to do except upgrade to XP. Is there another solution to this kind of problem?? He actually has two DVD burners. The older one is an HP 100i, and it also reads at only 1.7 times, so I don't think it is a setting for the burners but more of a Windows 2000 problem....so correct me if I am wrong, and if you have any fixes please let me know!! Thanks for all your help once again!!
Steve
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six.6.six
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15. January 2004 @ 11:57 |
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drchips
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15. January 2004 @ 12:20 |
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Hiya,
it is extremely common for a DVD burner's read speed to be limited to 2 x or less, especially from the brands available in the US.
The Media Industry in the US has had sufficient power (money) to FORCE the manufacturers to ARTIFICIALLY LIMIT the ripping or reading speeds of DVD Writers.
Such artificial limits can be overcome by replacing (flashing) the firmware in your DVD Writer with a "cracked" version.
Please NOTE: if you are subject to US law, by "overcoming" the artificial limits in such a fashion, you can then be prosecuted for DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) violation (bypassing/circumventing an encryption/security mechanism designed to discourage "piracy").
The chances of an individual being so prosecuted SEEM to be rather slim (have you heard of ANY such??).
Further NOTE: I am NOT a lawyer, any statement I make is merely an observation and a personally held view, and SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS ADVICE.
so, in a nutshell, slow read speeds when ripping from a DVD Writer are EXTREMELY COMMON and to be expected.
If you rip using a DVD-ROM DRIVE it SHOULD be considerably faster (I can achieve 12 x rip speeds from a Panasonic DVD-Rom Drive).
As far as I am aware, it is not affected by ASPI, as I have a Windows 2000 system with NO ASPI INSTALLED, and get 2X read from a Panasonic A04 BUT 12x from a Panasonic 16x READER.
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six.6.six
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15. January 2004 @ 12:53 |
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I had no aspi drivers, 2.4 rip speed tops. Installed ASPI Drivers 7X to 8X. Ive had 5 friends (in the US.) same problim told them all to install the ASPI Drivers and everyones speed tripeled.
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drchips
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15. January 2004 @ 14:40 |
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Ok six.6.six,
I read your post, and decided to test your theory...
Installed ASPI on the Windows 2000 system that HAD NO ASPI, re-booted, ran an ASPI check - all OK.
Run DVD Decrypter with STAR WARS Ep 2 (Attack of the Clones) in the A04:
RESULT: 2x speed maximum.
No change in performance.... Hmmmm..
So I removed ASPI (don't need it on that system).
Now then, have a look at this link,
http://pioneerdvd.rpc1.org/#PIONEER_DVR_IDE
and pay PARTICULAR ATTENTION to the entry for the Pioneer DVR-106 (the hacked firmware) V1.07, take note of the 12 x rip.
Now, why do you suppose these technically very competent people will run the risk of dust-binning a good drive with a HACKED firmware upgrade that will provide an improvement like that, if all it needs is ASPI?
What do you think is the possibility that they have ALL forgotten to try ASPI first?
In general I encourage people to research their thoughts, so I shall take this opportunity to encourage you to do likewise.
The more technically-inclined people we can get in these forums, the better, and I have no doubt you have the POTENTIAL to be one of those.
Researching, investigating and testing are skills worthy of aquisition.
I am not putting you down, merely trying to encourage you become a valued forum member.
Have Fun...
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six.6.six
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15. January 2004 @ 15:40 |
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Well drchips:
I if you read my post you will see i only spoke of what i knew for FACT. That FACT being exactly what i personally done my self, and what i have had my friends do and WORKED every time with this problim. Never haveing to take it any further than that. taking a crappy drive speed and making it better(refering to ripping dvd's) i dont have windows 2000 so i cant test what you have done im working with xp pro and dont have a pioneer drive tho that link seems to work with alot of drives but they dont seem to list them. Thats to bad
Aparentily you took my 2 line post the wrong way Just stating what i new!
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drchips
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15. January 2004 @ 16:26 |
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Hiya six.6.six,Quote:
i only spoke of what i knew for FACT
Hmmmm.
Replace the words "knew for FACT" with "have PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED", then the validity of your statement would be uncontestable.
FACTS are verifiable by others, reproducible by others and amenable to logic.
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is not FACT, though it MAY be proposed in the form of a THEORY, that theory may be expanded upon or even added to or modified by others based on their experiences.
The statement that it has worked for you, and by the same method you have managed to assist 5 others to solve their problems is in your favour, but a "solution" that fits 5 instances does not make a FACT.
I read and follow many more threads than I post to, and I have noticed many of your posts in those threads.
You have an enquiring mind, and a willingness to help and offer advice, that much is obvious by the quantity and content of your posts, all of which is to be encouraged.
That is what prompted me to say you have POTENTIAL, and makes you worthy of encouragement, but where something is not quite correct I will point it out, along with reasoning (read some of my posts).
There are plenty of people here that spout rubbish, and in the main I just ignore them (never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience).
BUT, when I see someone with potential posting something incorrect, I will attempt to assist them to see the error.
The link, and the questions following it were so you could start questioning and investigating: the fact that you have access to neither Windows 2000 nor a 106 should not have stopped you from following the reasoning, and as a result do some investigation of your own to test the validity of the statements made.
I believe you are worthy of such intervention (hence this post), and I hope you take it the way it is meant.
If you DON'T want to be corrected, just say, OK.
Have Fun...
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steve38
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16. January 2004 @ 05:24 |
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Dr. Chips:
Thanks for you input, and didn't mean to cause any friction with my last post. It is funny sometimes how one person will try something and it works, and another will try the same thing and it doesn't. People think of computers as being perfect, when in fact they are not. Each machine runs differently from one another. There are so many variables that it is hard to distinguish sometimes which may be at fault. Sometimes I like computers and sometimes I wish I could throw them over a bridge...or set it on some train tracks and watch it fly!!! LOL...anyway, I wish things could work perfectly, but that is asking way too much. Just like my problems I had with DVD Shrink and why it would not work. There was a lot of good advice, just seemed like nothing worked. Then tried another program Clone DVD and like someone waved a magic wand over the computer, it worked. It is beyond me why somethings will and others won't. Anyway, again I thank you and will tell my friend that it may be the burners fault. I could take his and run it on mine to see if I get the same results. Mine seems to be running between 4 to 5x, but starts out slow...then speeds up....damn computers anyway!! Well, have a good one and lets keep this forum going...seems like there is some good stuff we can all learn!
Steve
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drchips
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16. January 2004 @ 06:13 |
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Hiya Steve,
no worries, you didn't cause any friction, this IS a forum after all.
You are dead right saying that it is not easy, PC's ARE complicated (if they were not, I would have to do a PROPER job - LOL).
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steve38
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16. January 2004 @ 14:52 |
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Dr. Chips:
My friend's computers that had the problem with the read speed with the DVD Decrypter program...well here is the deal. Told him to upgrade to XP Pro first off, and then download the ASPI drivers. Well, he bought XP Pro, and he bought a 16x DVD/CD writer combo drive. I had him remove the old HP 100i DVD writer in the system properties, and then turn off the system and install the new drive. Then go into BIOS and make sure the setting are correct. After he booted, he tried the new drive and tried to decrypt one of his movies. It again ran no faster than 1.7x, just as the other drives read. Then he upgraded to XP Pro and installed the aspi drivers, and tried it again. This time he almost achieved 8x read speed. So, to make a long story short, either XP Pro helped or the ASPI drivers he installed helped. Since he did both, not sure which made the difference. Thought you might like to know what happened, and I hope it wasn't confusing!! Have a good one!
Steve
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drchips
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16. January 2004 @ 15:27 |
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Hmmm...
then it is desirous of further investigation.
What make and model of drive did he put in?
What version of ASPI was installed?
Where was it downloaded from?
I should like to duplicate that result if possible.
It is my intention to investigate.
I have a box I can put XP Pro on for testing purposes.
I wonder if the newer drives have the read restriction removed??
If it turns out that I was wrong, I shall quite happily say so here (six.6.six shall get an apology from me in that case, publicly).
Hoping to hear soon...
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steve38
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16. January 2004 @ 18:06 |
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Andre3000
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17. January 2004 @ 14:05 |
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I recently installed dvdshrink and Nero and every time I get to the part where it burns the dvd it says there is a write error. I was wondering if it could be the software having problems or is it my computers dvd writer? (HP DVD Writer 300n)(dvd shrink 3.1 and Nero 6)
Also when the dialog "Backup DVD" box comes up,in the DVD Region tab it mentions something about a Provider ID. Does that have to do anything with why the DVD wont copy?
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ScubaPete
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17. January 2004 @ 18:46 |
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andra3000,
What you do to I.D.Provider has no bearing on the function of Shrink. If you don't like it blank, put your name there or the movies name there it will make no difference.
Check to see if you have version 3.1 or do you have 3.1.2 - 3.1 comes with "Bugs" which are fixed in version 3.1.2
Install the new DVDShrink and see if your problems continue -
Download the new Shrink at - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm
Pete
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Andre3000
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18. January 2004 @ 12:17 |
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I had one more question before i try that. Is DVD Shrink and Nero software compatible with dvd+???
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ScubaPete
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18. January 2004 @ 16:50 |
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3000,
Just like the question you had about your software and your burner - whether you burn to +R or to -R has no bearing on what you are burning -
Some writers (burners) and some DVD players (standalones) need a particular media to write to or to read, hence the difference in media. Use your software to produce what you wish to burn and then use the media that's compatible with your system.
Hey Lil? Buddy, a friendly bit of advice ? You really need to purchase a basic book or take a beginners course in computers - it will be a fantastic help to you and then you?d be able to do so very much more with your computer -
Pete
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