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DVD Shrink....help!!
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steve38
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31. December 2003 @ 06:41 |
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Hi,
I have a problem, and I don't know what is wrong. I built a system for a friend and every time I run the DVD Shrink program the computer will reboot after awhile of analyzing, or sometimes it even reaches the encoding portion. I have DVD Shrink on my computer and it works fine. The processor and board I got for my friend are a lot faster than mine. I don't know if DVD Shrink has a problem running on systems with the Hyperthreading technology, or if it may be the graphics card or what?? If anyone has any ideas or thoughts, I would appreciate it. Here are the specs on the board: P4 2.8Ghz Northwood processor, Gigabyte GA-8S648FX-L motherboard,1 Gig of RAM DDR PC 2700 (333 Mhz), 120 GB Maxtor Hard Drive, and XFX GeForce 5600 FX video card, Digital Research DVD+/-. That pretty much covers what he has. Running Windows XP Professional. Please help, as this has become very frustrating.
Steve
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Foolboy
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31. December 2003 @ 07:28 |
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This is the exact same problem I am having with my system. I have been searching the forums for suggestions and found none so far. Been forced to use CloneDVD up until now. I appreciate any help you guys can give..my friends keep telling me how great Shrink is. Here are my system Specs...XP Pro, 2.53 P4, Gig of Ram, 80gig and 120gig hard drives on primary IDE, LG DVD Reader and Plextor PX-708A on Secondary IDE, Geforce 4 graphics card, and Soundblaster live MP3+.
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Foolboy
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31. December 2003 @ 08:15 |
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Good thing I didn't give up, I just read in another forum that there is some crappy conflict with some Pinnacle and Roxio programs. Named were Pinnacle Instant CD/DVD and Roxio EX CD/DVD Creator v6. I of course have both installed. I first uninstalled Instant CD/DVD v7 and had the same analysing problem. Uninstalled Roxio EX CD/DVD v6 and was able to make it through the analysis step. Haven't burned gone any further with shrink expect no further problems. Hope this helps your friend. Too bad about the conflict, both are great programs.
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steve38
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31. December 2003 @ 11:07 |
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Thanks for your posts. I have started from scratch with his computer. The DVD/CD burning software that you mentioned is not on his computer. I ended up switching to 4X instead of using 8X agp, and so far I have used DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink on both and DVD Shrink has not restated my computer yet. I am trying a third movie and am crossing my fingers. I am not hearing to good of stuff about the GeForce Graphics cards, so I am blamming it on the video card for now...ha! If anyone else has any suggestions or input, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again Foolboy for your input!
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ScubaPete
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1. January 2004 @ 19:09 |
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steve38,
Just a note -
There are a very few DVD's that DVDShrink can't open by itself -
Easier to use JUST DVDShrink and your burning program instead of both -
That Roxio is a major "Ball Buster" but believe it or not some use the Roxio and love it - Go figure, Huh?
Glad you got straightened out -
Happy New Year,
Pete
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btmcgu25
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1. January 2004 @ 22:47 |
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hey i was wondering if there is any way that you can delete the extra features and not back them up. mabye im an idiot but i aint seein how u do it.
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1. January 2004 @ 22:51 |
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btmcgu25
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2. January 2004 @ 10:18 |
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is there any way in the reauthor window to add like the menu folder, or any folder, because without the folders it would be screwed up wouldnt it???
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2. January 2004 @ 10:58 |
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Any time you use the re-author window in Shrink, you loose the operation of the menu. You can keep it in there but it will only play like a video clip.
On the GE force 4 card, I had to remove mine because PowerDVD kept telling me my dvds were dirty or damaged. It was the video out port on the card causing the problem. PowerDVD saw thre port and assumed it would be used to copy dvds to another source. I replaced it with a card without the port and everything worked fine.
Jerry
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ScubaPete
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2. January 2004 @ 15:14 |
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btmcgu,
When you re-author with shrink your DVD will run perfectly, you just can't jump over chapters - you can jump using chapters - got it ??
You can include your menus using TMPG DVD Authoring just set the default first action for the menu.
Jerry,
Could the problems lie else where ?
My GE Force 4 card is still there - no problems here ?? ;-))
PS - Happy New Year Good Buddy :-))
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steve38
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3. January 2004 @ 10:06 |
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Scuba,
I tired using DVD Shrink alone, and I am still having the problem of the system crashing every time it tries to encode. I can use DVDClone, no problem. I can use DVD Shrink on my own system, and I have no problem. This is very frustrating and I cannot figure out where the problem lies in his computer. Here are the specs on his system again....P4 2.8Ghz Northwood processor, Gigabyte GA-8S648FX-L motherboard,1 Gig of RAM DDR PC 2700 (333 Mhz), 120 GB Maxtor Hard Drive, and XFX GeForce 5600 FX video w/256MB DDR ram on card, Digital Research DVD+/-. That pretty much covers what he has. Running Windows XP Professional. I hope someone can help me because I don't know what to tell him why it won't work on his system, especially when I am the one that put it together for him.
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ScubaPete
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3. January 2004 @ 13:44 |
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Steve,
I don't think it's your GForce card but you can always try removing it - as you can see, my GForce card doesn't cause me a problem at all & I refer you to foolboy, here in your own thread - it was software, not the GForce card he had -
Soooo,
Let's try to crawl before you walk - go to msconfig and shut it all down, just run Shrink -
Help me out here so I have the story straight ?
I am confused , please take a second and explain your second post where you say
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I ended up switching to 4X instead of using 8X agp, and so far I have used DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink on both and DVD Shrink has not restated my computer yet. I am trying a third movie and am crossing my fingers.
1. Changing your burning speed in CloneDVD has no effect on the encoding that Shrink (I see no control in Shrink to control encoding speed) is doing. Why did you change burning speed ??
2. Are you speaking of your computer or
his when trying the 3rd movie ??
If you are speaking of yours, could you explain your first post where you say Quote:
I have DVD Shrink on my computer and it works fine.
If yours was working well then why are you trying your 3rd movie with your fingers crossed - see my point - ?
Meanwhile do the msconfig thing ?
?P?
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3. January 2004 @ 14:43 |
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Hi Pete, Steve, The GE Force problem I had was probably 1 in a Million. What about the missing ASPI in XP. Could that be the problem. I may be wrong by I think CloneDVD has its own but Shrink needs the system Aspi. Just a thought. I'm still running ME so I haven't run into the ASPI problem but have read some messages about the XP problem. I know it comes into play for burning but not sure how it effects ripping.
Jerry
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ScubaPete
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3. January 2004 @ 15:18 |
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Yes Jerry good thought, thanks for pointing it out -
Steve,
Here is a driver for you - - >
http://download.com.com/3000-2098-10161912.html
Hook that "Puppy" up and see if she'll bark -
"P"
Still need an answer on the other if problems continue -
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steve38
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4. January 2004 @ 08:25 |
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ScubaPete,
Sorry for the confusion...I read my own post and was confused...LOL. Anyway, what I was trying to say was that on my friends computer I changed the agp setting in the BIOS from 8x to 4x, thinking there was some kind of a problem even though the card is an 8x. Still had problems though. I don't understand the radom shutdown of my friends computer. Used DVD Shrink on two movies and tried anotheer like I said and it crashed his computer. I copied the same movies using DVD Shrink on my computer and it worked fine. I will try what you suggested by shuting everything down in MSCONFIG, but I don't have much installed besides the bare minimum, trying to find out what could be wrong. I just don't know if there is an incompatibility with the motherboard, XP Pro operating system and the software. I just can't figure it out, and it is driving me crazy. Seems CloneDVD works fine. I am not going to give up till I solve this problem. Thanks for you help and everyone elses...any other suggestions send them my way! Thanks!
Steve
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steve38
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4. January 2004 @ 11:46 |
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Well, I downloaded the aspi file, and rebooted, and nothing...still locks up and reboots. I also closed everything except for DVD Shrink....still locks up and reboots. I am really running out of things to do. I still can't figure it out. Any other suggestions would be helpful...thanks!
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ScubaPete
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5. January 2004 @ 13:21 |
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Steve,
I guess you have uninstalled it then reinstalled and still no luck so I just don't understand -
XP defiantly is NOT the problem - there are a ton of guys here running it - - Ooooppppps, Hey, I'm even running it! The only major difference between XP Home and Pro is the Networking thingie -
I'll tell you what through, download and try DVD2One, it will do the squeeze thingie pretty well. I had it on trial and liked it so well - I bought it!!!
Mean while, let's keep this thread open and perhaps we'll get some of the "Super Brains" stopping by and they'll be able to bail you out -
Don't give up hope -
"P"
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steve38
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6. January 2004 @ 09:07 |
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ScubaPete,
Thanks for all your help. I have installed DVD Shrink on my own computer and I have no problems. I have installed it on other computers and have no problem. It is going to bug me till I can figure out why it will not work on his, and I built his damn computer too!!! HA HA! Makes me feel incompetent when I can't get things to run when they should. I have tried everything possible unless there is a problem with the motherboard or something. Checked the Ram out, checked the video card out, checked the monitor out( since his monitor was an older one and had heard of problems with older monitors), don't know what else it could be unless it is the motherboard or something that I have not checked out in the BIOS. Any other suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks again ScubaPete for trying to help out...I really do appreciate your effort!
Steve
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dan111
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9. January 2004 @ 13:17 |
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hello all..when i press re author..a new screen comes up but thats it..no titles section is there..anyone help?
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drchips
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9. January 2004 @ 14:13 |
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Hi Guys,
Just browsing through, and though I should take the opportunity to ask a few questions and make a few observations.
steve38 saidQuote:
systems with the Hyperthreading technology,
and also saidQuote:
DDR PC 2700 (333 Mhz),
if you go to:
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/pentium4/index.htm?iid=ipp_desk+proc_p4ht&
you will see that the 2.4 GHz P4 with hyperthreading is an 800 MHz system bus, but DDR PC 2700 (333 MHz) doubled does not give 800 MHz.
So, if the RAM is running at its rated speed there may be a timing issue.
If the RAM is running FASTER, there may be errors being generated due to overclocking or overheating.
Unless of course the system bus is actually a 533, the RAM would be ok, but there may be an issue with HyperThreading being enabled (through-cache hit-errors).
Looking at the Motherboard page:
http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8S648FX-L.htm
I note that the chipset is SiS 648FX, there have been issues posted elsewhere with 5600 and 5700 series graphics cards using 8xAGP, notably with SOME SiS and SOME KTxxx series chipsets.
Some of the symptoms being described tend to point toward errors in the High Memory Range - it may be prudent to run an exhaustive RAM Quality check (I know it has been checked, but sometimes an exhaustive check is needed).
my reasoning goes thus:
DVD Shrink, like other programs, will use as much RAM as possible for disk-buffer/encoding etc, and the longer it runs on a job, the more RAM it will use (if available).
Windows ALSO uses memory to RUN programs/services etc.
Maybe Windows (or some other executable code segment) is being forced to re-locate higher in memory, hits a bad patch of RAM, corrupts and causes the re-boot.
XP is notoriously FUSSY about perfect memory (much more so than, say Win2000).
Just a thought.
Spontaneous re-booting is INVARIABLY down to 5 things (most common first):
1 - faulty hardware.
2 - overheating.
3 - dirty power.
4 - faulty O/S.
5 - very badly behaved programs.
Something to think about.
Good Luck...
Life is just more of the same:
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9. January 2004 @ 18:12 |
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Hi dan111. Once the second window opens in Shrink, you have to select what you want to keep from the 1st window and add or drag it to the second window. This is how you edit in shrink. Once you have everything in the 2nd window that you want, click backup to rip to HD. To eliminate the 2 window switching, I select ALL files from 1st window and drag them all to second, then preview each line and delete items I don't want. 1st window can be minimized if you do it this way leaving full view of second window.
Jerry
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dan111
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10. January 2004 @ 03:59 |
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Jerry...great instructions..worked like a charm...many thanx!!..was able to put the whole 'mummy' movie onto a single dvd with no compression..tho..i have no menus..that will be my next challenge!!
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ScubaPete
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10. January 2004 @ 14:13 |
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and I say
"WOW"
I am truly impressed drchips -
(taken' notes and studying)
Nice run down, never thought of a timing issue -
Pete
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drchips
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10. January 2004 @ 15:01 |
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Why thank you Pete,
you say the nicest things.
I notice we haven't heard from steve38 since Jan 6th.
Do you think he's given up or been put off or summat?
Have Fun...
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steve38
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14. January 2004 @ 08:44 |
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DrChips,
Thanks for your input, it is greatly appreciated. I have done everything humanly possible to correct the problem. I don't know what the deal is. The motherboard specifically said to get the PC 2700 or higher ram. Thus the reason for buying PC 2700 DDR RAM. Now the weird thing is that I loaded Clone DVD on his computer. I use it as I would DVD Shrink and copy DVD files to the hard drive. I have not experienced one problem. unlike DVD Shrink that would freeze up and shut the system down, Clone DVD goes right through and does a great job with no shut down of the system. It is the weirdess thing. I don't understand why on program works and the other does not.
Now I have another problem that maybe someone can help with. I just bought another DVD burner. It is a new Pacific Digital 8x burner, the Mach 8 to be exact. My other DVD Burner that was an NEC worked great. Now I am getting I/O read errors constantly. I cannot run DVD Decrypter any more because it keeps giving me an I/O error, and it gives me a logical unit communication CRC error. What can be causing this and how can it be corrected. Please help as now I am unable to do a thing.
Steve
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