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12. November 2005 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NOTE: This is just a very basic guide for newbies only.


To Backup a DVD using DVD Decrypter, Nero Recode 2 and Nero Burning Rom


01) open your ?C: Drive? or ?Hard Drive,? click on File, New, Folder
and name it MyNewBackup_DVD (or whatever you desired), then [Enter] to save it. Now make a sub folder called VIDEO_TS inside MyNewBackup_DVD, hit [Enter] to save it.

02) open your Hard drive again and make another folder as My_Final_Recode_DVD. Now make a sub folder called VIDEO_TS inside My_Final_Recode_DVD, hit [Enter] to save it.


To Rip a DVD using DVD Decrypter via File Mode

NOTE: in prior to the ripping part, let?s tweak/set a few settings inside DVD Decrypter*

** open up DVD Decrypter, go to Tools, and Settings





** at General on ?Removal Method? arrow down to ?Aggressive?





** at I/O, check ?Ignore Read Errors?





** at ?File Mode? check on all of the Remove, Ignore, Patch and Create MDS file.





** at CSS check ?Brute Force -->I/O key exchange,
On Failure: use key from another file [YES]





** at ?ISO Read Mode? check on all Remove and Create MDS file





A) once you?re done with the settings, click OK to get out from the settings.

B) put original movie in "DVD-ROM drive ? *(if you have an additional DVD burner)
or put original movie in ?DVD burner? *(if you don?t have a DVD-ROM drive)

C) put a high quality media in your DVD burner *(if only you have the original movie inside your DVD-ROM drive)

NOTE: (use high quality media such as Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, and Maxell (Made In Japan only)

D) open up DVD Decrypter, click on MODE, File F






E) click on ?Edit? then ?Select All?





F) "Source" <---where the original movie is located (DVD-ROM or DVD burner)

G) "Destination" <-- browse to your New Folder that you created earlier aka "MYNEWBACKUP_DVD," and VIDEO_TS,
then click OK




H) click on "Decrypt" <--- it's the arrow next to the disc and burner icon.





Now sit back, relax, go smoke/take a puff or go watch TV and wait until it's completed.
Don't mess with your computer at this time.






NOTE: make sure you don?t have any other unnecessary programs running while DVD Decrypter is ripping.




To Encode a movie using Nero Recode 2

01) click on Nero StartSmart and click on Nero Recode






02) Open up Nero Recode 2, click on "Recode an Entire DVD to DVD"






03) change your "Custom" settings to ?4360MB or 4400MB? and check on "Fit To Target"






04) click on "Import DVD" and browse to your New Folder "MyNewBackup_DVD"
then to VIDEO_TS,, then OK.






Nero Recode should do a quick analysis now -- approximately 1 ? 2 minutes.






Once it?s done you should have the whole completed movie with Main Title, Audio, Foreign Audio
or Subtitles and Extras. If you don't want to remove anything, then just leave as it is
and you'll have a "full disc back up" now click on "NEXT"






**NOTE: now you can remove any unwanted Commentary Audio, Foreign Audio, Subtitles and Extras,
so your backup will be better on the quality.







**NOTE: for ?Main movie? only, you need to do a ?Recode Main Movie to DVD?





Here is the Main Movie only, if you're happy with it, then click NEXT.






05) "Destination" <--- Hard Disk
06) "Target Folder" <--- browse to your folder: ?My_Final_Recode_DVD? and VIDEO_TS that you created earlier,
then click on "BURN"<---this process takes any where from 12 mins ? 35 mins
(depending on how fast is your computer and or if you?re going to use ?Advanced Analysis, + HQSR + Assign Best Quality to Main Movie")




**NOTE: if you want better quality, then [check/tick] on either ?Advanced Analysis?
(this will encode in 2 passes, but will improve the quality)<---I highly recommend using this,
or ?High Quality Mode [slow recoding], then click on ?BURN?



07) Now the first pass of Advanced Analysis is in progress.






08) Now it?s processing the second part, which is Encoding.






09) Presto?it?s done, just click NO because you don?t want to save the log file.





**NOTE: once Nero Recode 2 completed the Encoding process, you'll have at least like 25 ? 45 VIDEO_TS
small folders inside your My_Final_Recode_DVD folder (depends on how big is the movie),
and now you?re ready to burn your newly created VIDEO_TS files with Nero Burning Rom.




To burn your Movie or VIDEO_TS files using Nero Burning Rom

01) Open up Nero StartSmart and click on Nero Burning Rom






02) now click DVD-Video and click on NEW





03) now Drag them by pressing ?Ctrl + A? and put it in VIDEO_TS folder on the left.






04) once you have everything, now let?s get ready to burn them.






05) now let?s set the burning speed.






06) sit back and relax while Nero Burning Rom is burning.






07) finally it?s successfully completed?that?s it? easy as smoking!!






08) since you have the transcoded dvd files inside your My_Final_Recode_DVD already,
now you can go to your MyNewBackup_DVD, and VIDEO_TS folder
and delete all of them files because you won?t need them anymore.

Enjoyed it and have fun burning?!!!




Here's how to Book Type using Nero Burning Rom

01) open up Nero StartSmart, then click on Nero Burning Rom
02) EXIT out the "New Compilation" when it pops up
03) click on "Chooses A Recorder"
(it's a small burner icon next to (I) and the arrow down)
04) click on ?Options," then on "Book Type Settings," set to "Automatic"
and click "OK" - that's it... easy as smoking.
Now every time when you burn using a DVD+R, DVD+RW or DVD+R DL disc, Nero will ?automatically?
change the Book Type into a DVD-ROM format.


**here are some very useful links & tools to have**
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_...d_decrypter.cfm (download free DVD Decrypter here.)
http://www.dvdidle.net/free.htm (download free DVDFab Decrypter here.)
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_.../dvd_shrink.cfm (download free DVD Shrink here.)
http://www.dvd43.com/ (download free DVD43 here.)
http://www.slysoft.com/en/download.html (download AnyDVD here.)
http://www.dvdidle.net/dvd-idle-pro.htm (download DVDIdle here.)
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php (download & to check on your DVD burner?s firmware.)
http://www.k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php (DVD Decrypter Book Type Instructions.)
http://www.k-probe.com/kprobe-bitsetting-booktype.php (Lite-On Book Type Utility Instructions.)
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_utility.asp (Lite-On Book Type Utility Program.)
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm (Information about high quality & crap quality media.)

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12. November 2005 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Alkohol, if anyone cant follow that guide then I think they should stick to RENTING their movies, a good read. Cheers.

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@Alkohol, if anyone cant follow that guide then I think they should stick to RENTING their movies, a good read. Cheers.
Lol.... hummmm it's sad but true. It's pretty easy and simple though.

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12. November 2005 @ 20:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with Gwendolin. Great Job!!!
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13. November 2005 @ 00:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey... i tried wat you said.i must say this is a beautiful guide... but my DVD's are a bit weird.. check out my reply at
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/255156#1441648

thnx...

Sam
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@swy000

I don't know why your disc looks weird. Just out of curiosity, how big is the original dvd (i.e. how many GB)? Did you happened to take out some "unwanted" subtibles, foreign audio such as Spanish, French, or the English Dolby Digital 2 Channel? I only keep the main English Dolby Digital 5 Channel and English Sub; even if it's a "full disc backup" I'm encoding, it fits perfectly on a custom of 4360MB or sometimes 4400MB on a 4.7GB DVD+R flawlessly. Looks like there may be some settings issues in the piture you provided. So are you saying that you can not even encode/compress the movie you're trying to backup at all? Give me some more details on your problems and I'll try to help you out alright. Seriously, I think it's kind a expensive trying to backup an original dvd using DVD+R DL media, unless the movie is well worth it.

According to my knowledge, yes... you can encode/compress using Nero Recode 2 on any original DVD9 with 7GB - 8GB into a single layer DVD5 (DVD-R and DVD+R 4.7GB) disc easily.

Honestly, I can encode big movies like Batman Begins, Star Wars: Revenge of The Sith, Bewitched, Unleashed: unrated version, The Longest Yard, etc. into a single layer DVD+R 4.7GB flawlessly with awesome quality (epecially I'm using "Advanced Analysis" on Nero Recode 2) and believe me, all of those movies are big like7.2GB or over.

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sure.. i guess the key word u said was "Original DVD-9".
What i have is the friends season 5 with 25 episodes, all authored into one disc. They only have one sound stream and only english subtitles. Thats why i cant remove anything from it.ive done alot of backing up before and its all worked out.

So, its NOT oringal.. and that why i CANT encode it all. ill tell u wat worked though. I used DVD Shrink and then DVD2One. Making one image, and then shrinking that image again!!! Lost alot of quality.. it was too obvious!!! so technically it worked, but you cant watch it..hehe....
Your guide is amazing..ive tried it on another DVD-9, worked great!My little kid brother can follow these instructions :P... but its just my DVD i guess. The "Title #" you see are all episodes and there are 25 of them on one DVD.

Sam
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I used DVD Shrink and then DVD2One. Making one image, and then shrinking that image again!!! Lost alot of quality.. it was too obvious!!! so technically it worked, but you cant watch it..hehe....

@swy000

Yeah, the guide is really simple if you followed it closely. I'm glad you've made another DVD9 successfully using my guide.

Hummm... I see, so you're trying to backup 25 episodes into a DVD-R/+R right? But how big is the files/GB when you inserted into your dvd burner or dvd-rom and click on the properties?



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Hummm... I see, so you're trying to backup 25 episodes into a DVD-R/+R right?
yup thats true...all the season basically... :)
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But how big is the files/GB when you inserted into your dvd burner or dvd-rom and click on the properties?
not too big.. about 6.45GB... an exact picture is here:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5870/fff9eh.jpg

and if u go back to my post here:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/255156#1441648
and look at the last picture i posted and compare the sizes of the movie files(VTS_##_1.VOB), u will see at least 60MB was killed from each episode, but i guess Nero couldnt kill anymore cause it would screw up the quality bigtime!..

Sam
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not too big.. about 6.45GB... an exact picture is here:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5870/fff9eh.jpg
6.45GB shouldn't be any problem at all - Nero Recode should be able to handle that easily. Something is not right. Whant happen when you hit "Next"? Can you try to encode it Episode by Episode, and then have Recode Encode using "Advanced Analysis"? Once you're done with the 25 episodes, just merge/put them in one big VIDEO_TS folder and have Nero Burning Rom burn them. Advanced Analysis will enhances the quality picture sharply -- yes, the results will be awesome, as great as original quality. Hey, give it a shot.


WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
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13. November 2005 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
u got me all excited again.... i know 6.5GB isnt anything..ive done an 8.1GB before :s... but anyways..lets give this another shot..im gonna try wat ur saying..guide me o' knowing one... lol

ok
so, here is the pic when i click next
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9225/ccc7uw.jpg

when u say lets encode them each at a time..how do i go about doing that?.. and the advanced analysis??

EDIT: to make this faster, i made an image of the dvd on my harddisk for faster reading... im using alcohol 120 and ive loaded the CD on a virtual drive...reads about 6 times faster :D

Sam

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wow what a great guide, thanks for the time you spent on it alkohol! I like the new look of nero. I haven't upgraded yet i still see too many people having probs on other forums.

peace

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@swy000

Here is a few example with pictures of what I'm going to Encode or compress a movie "Alot Like Love" with Nero Recode 2. For references only.















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EDIT: to make this faster, i made an image of the dvd on my harddisk for faster reading... im using alcohol 120 and ive loaded the CD on a virtual drive...reads about 6 times faster :D
Hummmm.... I'm not sure about you, but nearly 99% of my movies are ripped into the Hard drive using DVD Decrypter. Yes... DVD Decrypter will surpass Alcohol 120 incredibly.

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
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well i did the thing over AGAIN..from the top.. here is everything i did... pics and everything....!!!

Pic1
This is the image i did of the DVD so that i use Alcohol 120 for Reading
REMOVED IMAGE FOR WEBSITE

Pic2
This displays the size of the IMAGE on my HD.Same as the DVD.
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Pic3
This shows the image of the dvd and how i loaded in onto alcohol so that i rip the dvd using dvd decrypter.
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Pic4
This shows the VIDEO_TS folder after having been ripped by decrypter
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Pic5
This shows NERO encode bring in the VIDEO_TS folder
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Pic6
This one is STRAIGHT after the movie is streamed in nero encode! I didnt touch anything yet, just snapped it and here it is.
Your picture showed that it successfully went to the 4400 mark.. mine didnt...
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Pic7
And this is finally after i press Next.
REMOVED IMAGE FOR WEBSITE


Sorry about all the pics... but thats the only way i can show my work.. i can see wat trouble u guys go through though.. much appreciated... !!
As you can see, its the dvd i guess... if i have to, ill probably record a movie as well and show u :P... but i think this does it...



Sam

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@swy000

You know what? I'm going to test/try out the movie you're trying to encode right now (Friends Season5) and I'll report back on the results ok. I mean without trying to encode it myself, it's hard for me to say what's the problem in this case. So, in the mean time, try to encode something else and I'll be back to report with the steps and results if it's a successful or not alright.



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alkohol,
i just wanted to say thank you for this super easy guide!!

I normally use shrink and Nero and came a cross a dvd i couldn't do and it was driving me nuts. I had never used Decrypter and thanks to your guide i got through it easily.

Thanks again for a great and easy walk through
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@alkohol

Ok, goodluck..but try and find the cd existing the way i have it. Cause usually season5 comes in about 6 dvd's os something.Try and find it authored with all 25 episodes on 1 cd. I could upload it to u, but it will take a while.

Sam
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14. November 2005 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay this isn't really on this subject and its a little anal but I was thinking about revamping some of my backed up dvd's with a label of the exact dvd. Example someone scanned a copy of the disc for its image. I am trying to find a place I can download the image and use it on my label. Anyone know of a place I can find these kind of images? Want to upgrade my backups. Thanks
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I would strongly advise against compressing this movie. You can probably pull it off by setting the output to DVD9. Then manually compress everything as low as it goes. Then when it finished, load up the new VIDEO_TS and repeat until it finishes.

There might also be a problem with the GOPs. You may have to manually recompress the movie with an external encoder using a GOP like BBIBBPBBPBBPBBPBBP (or 1I 5P & 2B) and setting the bitrate to about 900kbps video.
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@JaguarGod

I agree with you. On the other hand, I don't know why he (swy000) can not encode/compress the dvd -- it's only 6.45GB, so that is kind of strange.


@swy000

Where did you get your copy (the Friends dvd)? I can't find the Friends Season 5, but I was able to get Friends Volume 3 that has 5 episodes plus some extras that runs over 160 minutes with 7.34GB, and I was able to rip and encoded flawlessly.



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@alkohol

ya i can pretty much imagine what u got... that should work.. and ur right..
where i got it from?
i got it from a friend who got it from a blackmarket (coughs to make sure no one heard)... :P
thses things arent supposed to be sold like that.. so i watched it, liked it and decided to back it up..if u want me to upload it, i will, but keep im mind its' size and that i upload at a max of 20-25K.... (but really, that IF you wanna go through all the trouble).... pm me if yes and we'll c how we'll get this done

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@alkohol

ya i can pretty much imagine what u got... that should work.. and ur right..
where i got it from?
i got it from a friend who got it from a blackmarket (coughs to make sure no one heard)... :P
thses things arent supposed to be sold like that.. so i watched it, liked it and decided to back it up..if u want me to upload it, i will, but keep im mind its' size and that i upload at a max of 20-25K.... (but really, that IF you wanna go through all the trouble).... pm me if yes and we'll c how we'll get this done
@swy000

Hummmmm... I guess your last resource would have to be DVD Decrypter for a DVD+R DL (DVD9) backup, if by all means, you can't encode it with either Nero Recode 2 or DVD Shrink. I guess it won't hurt to back it up on a 2.4X Verbatim DVD+R DL then.

(To backup a DVD movie on a DVD+R DL (DVD9) media using DVD Decrypter)

01) Insert the original DVD into your DVD burner or DVD-Rom drive
02) Open up DVD Decrypter
03) Click on Mode, ISO, READ R
04) "source" <-- where the original movie is located
05) "destination" <-- browse to your hard drive or create a folder aka "My_DVD9_Backup" and browse to the folder, click "Open"then "Save"
06) Click on "Decrypt" (now sit back and relax until it's completed

**once it's successfully completed ripping into your hard drive**
01) Click on Mode, ISO, WRITE W
02) "source" <-- from your folder or hard drive and choose the MDS file
03) "destination" <-- to your DVD burner (make sure you have a high quality DL media ready to be written)
04) Click on "Write" (sit back and relax until it's successfully burned.) That's it easy as sipping some Black Label Whisky.

On the other hand, if you want to try other experiment, perhaps you can try to have "ratDVD" to compress and see what's the result. Go here http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/ratdvd.cfm to download ratDVD (it's free) and or you can visit the "ratDVD discussion forum" for more information.

I hope you'll find a solution in due time.

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How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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hehehe... whiskey eh???? hehehe
thnx alot...
does DVD Decrypter do booktyping btw automatically?

Sam
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@swy000

Yes, DVD Decrypter can easily change the book type to DVD-ROM if you're using any DVD+R DL, DVD+R or DVD+RW. What kind of DVD burner you have by chance? Let me know and I'll see if your burner is capable of changing the book type alright. Keep in mind to always keep your burner's firmware up-to-date alright.

You are right... actually it's "whiskey" but for short it's "whisky." I guess I'm tired of Courvoisier and Hennessey, so I'm cool with Black Label at the moment.

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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Hey Alkohol, good choice of drink, after that effort you deserve a good stiff one, Cheers

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