Trying my old nemesis - DVD Decrypter & DVD Shrink
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ronnies
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12. November 2005 @ 22:15 |
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Hi People: I have a backup that is relating it's size as 8,000,000kb +/-. To me this means that it's a DVD 9 - dual layer movie because of it's size. I tried to run it through "DVD Shrink" but I got the ever so familiar error message - Can't continue...... So I need your help in telling me what my steps are in "DVD Decrypter". What"mode" do I use? - ISO - File ??? I need this info laid out until I can send it to my HD. From there, I can "open files" and pick out the "MDS" file of that movie and run it through "DVD Shrink". I BELIEVE that is the sequence??? First I need the "DVD Decrypter "Mode" part cleared up thru to picking out the place on my HD. Anyone got a fix on this? Thanks for you kind help.. Ronnies
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12. November 2005 @ 22:56 |
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ronnies
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13. November 2005 @ 06:42 |
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Hello Maxburn, thanks for your reply. I am trying to burn the movies to a normal 4.3 Gig disc. The error message is " DVD Shrink has encountered an error and cannot continue - exception occurred". I wanted to find out what mode I would need in DVD Decrypter etc. to loading the movies in my HD. Then I would "open files" and burn it to my 4.3 gig disc. need definitve steps. tried the lenghty and confusing to me, "BBMayo", and "Scuba Pete" directions and found them too confusing for me - trust there is an easier way - like I requested above - thanks Ronnies.
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13. November 2005 @ 07:35 |
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Use Decrypter in File Mode and copy your file to your HDD and then just open Shrink and use the Open Files Tab and find your file on the HDD. That is all you need to do. What movie are you trying to do Shrink/Decrypter cannot do some of the newer encrypted Sony movies. You can also try the free DVDFab Decrypter available from http://www.filepedia.com and rip to your HDD and then open Shrink and open the files with the Open Files Tab and proceed.
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ronnies
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13. November 2005 @ 20:24 |
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Arniebear- FINALLY got"DVD Decrypter" and "DVD Shrink" to work!!! Went into "DVD Decrypter" then to "Files". I found the downloaded Movie files on the HD then to "DVD Shrink" and Good god of greatness - I got the movie backup... Thanks tons to you and all the numerous good people that braved my efforts to use the "Decrypter" and "Shrink" to a successful completion. I still don't know what the message "DVD Shrink has encountered an error and cannot continue - exception occurred" means? Exception occurred? what is that? does this error massage indicate that the movie must me decrypted? Is it an indicator that it's too long? don't know - any suggeations?? Thanks Ronnies
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13. November 2005 @ 20:42 |
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Glad to see you got it to work ronnies. On some movies and encryptions, if you try to just read the disc with shrink, and not extract the files to HD first with Decrypter, you will run in to all kinds of strange error codes. That is why we use either DVD Fab Decryter or DVD Decrypter (fab is the backup proggy) to extract the files to HD first. If you want a fun read, i will post a link to another forum that lists almost every shrink error code, and what ppl have done to fix them.
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=48762 its a good listing of shrink error codes and i think yours is the first one listed. Good luck and many happy burns in the future :)
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14. November 2005 @ 03:16 |
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@ronnies
So glad it finally worked out for you. Your Shrink error was because of protection. If you rip in file mode with Decrypter, Fab Decrypter the program can then replace the bad sector, if you rip in iso it is an exact image of the file, with the bad sector in it, which Shrink cannot handle. Happy burning :)
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14. November 2005 @ 04:31 |
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@ronnies
like arniebear said, if you are ripping in ISO you will need a DL disc as you are ripping 1:1. Rip in file mode and then Shrink will handle it, but of course you need to make sure you get the encryption issue handled first. Either DVDFab decrypter or AnyDVD.
You could even reauthor to main movie and leave out all the extra stuff.
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 14:16 |
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Arniebear, Maxburn, - etal. Thanks so much for the very excellant info and prompt response. Amen - "Dvd Decrypter" and "DVD Shrink" worked again - I'm on a roll thanks to you. In "DVD Decrypter it's all "File" mode. Arniebear's explanation about "file" and "Iso" mode made sense to me, great job! I just encountered a "Sony" encrypted movie. I will try "DVD Shrink" by itself and then, if that doesn't work , I will try the "Decrypter". If that doesn't work - I won't bother trying to make it work. What is "DVD Fab"? I tried "AnyDVD" and it crashed my computer, so I removed it. I Have "WinDVD" installed on my computer as it complies with my "Plextor" VHS to DVD conversion unit. Do you think that"DVD Fab" would result in a crash also - just want you opinion, thanks again ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 14:21 |
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You can try Fab Decrypter it works like DVD Decrypter and just rips, no burn feature. I do not know of any problems, but you never know. If you have a problem try the System Resore it works most of the time.
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 14:40 |
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Thanks Arniebear for your extremely fast reply. Do you think "DVD Fab" will remove the "Sony" encryption? Right now, that seems to be the only encryption that is giving me any trouble. Ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 15:04 |
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Hi ronnies,
Im not as fast replying to threads (sometimes im all over this site) :), but i don't have any problems with AnyDVD. I bought it, so maybe the paid for version is more stable? Anyways the two programs out there that currently tackle any known encryption are AnyDVD and DVD Fab Decrypter. They come up with cracks before most ppl can get the movie causing the problem. AnyDVD is like DVD43 in that it runs in the background and is almost invisible. When you insert an encrypted DVD the program kicks in and decrypts the movie so windows, or any other program will see that movie as an un-encrypted movie. Fab acomplishes the same thing but it does its magic by extracting the file to the HD while un-encrypting it like DVD Decrypter except this one is updated. Two different programs wind up with the same result. One is free, the other is not. As of right now, any movie out there can be ripped with free programs. Yes, DVD Fab Decrypter will take care of the sony Arccos. There are other multiple program ways of defeating the arcos scheme, i think by using VOB blanker to take care of the bad sectors. Good luck, and post back if you run in to one you cant crack.
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 16:14 |
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Hello Maxburn: The movies that I am trying to backup is called "The Marksman". On the case the print encompasses the wording "www.SonyPictures.Com". When attempting to use both "DVD Decrypter" and "DVD Shrink" both ended with the familiar "DVD Shrink encountered and error and cannot continue - exception occurred". I did not see the typical big picture that usually covers the monitor screen when first starting to analyse the disc. Don't know why neither "DVD Decrypter" or "DVD Shrink" couldn't handle this movie?
Any suggestions? thanks Maxburn for your concern. Ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 16:42 |
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 17:03 |
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Hello Locoeng: The last time that I downloaded and tried "AnyDVD" it crashed my computer? Someone on the Forum said that "AnyDVD" is not compatible with "WinDVD" which compliments my "Plextor" vhs conversion program. Not sure about that but immediatly after installing "AnyDVD" and using it, down went the computer, blue screen and all??? The movie that is giving me problems is "The Marksman" and I successfully decrypted it using "DVD Decrypter" but when I went into "DVD Shrink" to shrink the movie, it got down to approx. 30sec remaining before completion and the "Error message, mentioned prior came up... Almost but no cigar. Thanks Ronnies
I still have the decrypted movied on my HD, i will probably remove it and forget about it.. again Thanks Ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 17:25 |
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Did you decrypt it in ISO mode or File mode? Have you ever tried DVD43? It works in much the same way as AnyDVD and may be more friendly to your other progs.
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14. November 2005 @ 17:57 |
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ronnies
Do you have the latest vers of DVD Shrink. Last time it was updated, the update took care of some of the newer encryptions like the jumping boy thing. Currently the only two easy to use programs that handle sonys stuff is AnyDVD and DVDFab Decrypter. Some ppl have to use fab express to get past sonys stuff. With fab you would extract the movie to HD and then open with shrink. AnyDVD will let you just use shrink with no extracting to HD. I just click on open disc and away she goes. I wouldn't want a program to give me a blue screen, so i can see why you hesitate to use AnyDVD again, but it is a great program, and well worth the money. It makes ripping movies almost mindless. I may even train my cat to rip movies for me. Its that easy when you have good programs. Give fab a try. It is a very good free program to have in your ripping toolbox.
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 18:26 |
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Hello Locoeng and Maxburn: man you are good people to be so resilient with my problems - Thanks again. Locoeng, I used "File mode" it seems to be the ONLY way to go. Yes I have tried "DVD43" with the same results as "AnyDVD" a crash of my computer... Somewhere I have a non-compliant piece of stuff... Right now except, for not being able to backup "The Marksman" I've done well (twice), I am proud of that. Maxburn, about a month past I deleted the version of "DVD Shrink" that I had and replaced it with a new installation. Do you know the version number of the latest "DVD Shrink"?
I opened "Maxburn's" suggested "Forum digital - Digest" with all of it's trimmings - man that is awesome. Lots of good error stuff. They also mention "PSL2" as an addition to "DVD Decrypter. I couldn't find any easy download of the program - lot's of nooks an crannies in there, I'd better leave that to the great minds ( you guys). Still pondering whether to download "DVD43", it's tempting, but outside of my one defeat, I might just pass until I get overwhelmed with some other bad stuff or a movie that I really want badly.. Thanks to the both of you, could not have got near this far if not for you. sincerely ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 20:04 |
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Ronnies
Shrink vers is 3.2.0.15
DVD43 isnt too bad, but it can give you problems, if you are running it and shrink at the same time. It isn't updated either, so it wont handle the many of the sonys.
Here is a thread where i found a shrink DVD43 conflict:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/234568 also in that thread i ran in to another problem with overlapped I/O going on. Maybe the latest vers of shrink took care of that, as i recently re-checked that box, and have ripped 10 movies so far, with no hang ups. I think fab decrypter is going to be your best bet on beating the Marksman. You might also have a bad press of the original movie. I had that happen with my original Matrix Revolutions. Disc was virgin, no scratches. Could not make a copy of it no matter what i tried. Took it back and the replacement ripped perfectly..
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14. November 2005 @ 20:17 |
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 21:14 |
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Jaguargod: thanks for the info on "PSL2". I believe that I already copied the threads that you mention. They are a real piece of work for a relatively new person like myself. I'm trying and experimenting. I will have to do some deep reading on that "PSL2" stuff for famialization on that topic - not an easy task...
Thanks "Maxburn" for the updated "DVD Shrink" version, I will check mine out, got sidetracked for a spell on another project.. Think I will check into "Fab Decrypter". Should I delete "DVD Decrypter" to avoid any confliction or is there no conflict with "DVD Decrypter"? Thanks again to all. Ronnies ( with a lot of reading to do)..
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14. November 2005 @ 21:28 |
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No, there is no conflict with DVDD & DVDfab. I use both, and have probably had both running at the same time (never do this though, as it may cause a system crash). I also have many different versions of Decrypter on my PC, to do different sorts of testing.
Only stuff like AnyDVD running/installed with DVD43 will cause conflicts.
BTW; For the PSL files, just download the file. Then go into Decrypter and select "file=>protected sectors list...=>import". Select the file and click OK. Then, it will give you a message stating that it accepted the file, and then you can rip.
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ronnies
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14. November 2005 @ 23:00 |
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jaguargod, do you think "DVD Fab" does a more thorough encrypting job than "DVD Decrypter"? Is "DVD Fab" just as simple to use? I finally got "DVD Decrypter" to work AFTER some very detailed directions from the other gracious forum people. Thanks Ronnies
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15. November 2005 @ 02:20 |
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@ronnies
I think that DVDFab is very user friendly. If you go the bbmayos web site listed in my signature you can find a guide specifically for using DVDFab, shrink, and decrypter to burn. Excellently written and easy to follow. I have DVDFab and it works very well.
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15. November 2005 @ 02:46 |
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i used dvdfab express for the first time last night - incredibly simple - just click on disc you want to do, make up an output pathname, then start; it does it's stuff then job done!. now that's what i like - simplicity :)
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