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10. May 2005 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The AUDIO_TS folder is there to tell the player that it's a DVD, and not some other type of disk (that may also play in the player).
Some players require it, some do not. It's become obsolete, but is still used to insure compatibility.

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10. May 2005 @ 11:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
to myhrep: The Panasonic IMO would be preferred for simplicity. Incidently I got a NEW TOshiba standalone(not to be confused as I think you are) with anything that connects to a computer...that will write up to 8X. Understand the earlier standalones have nothing to do with backward compatibility...because they do not hookup to a computer....

The old Toshiba, PHilips I have will only record up to 2x, no ifs ands or buts about it. case closed.
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10. May 2005 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Audio_TS Folder is usually empty so you don"t need to use it....

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10. May 2005 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Minion - I use DVD Shrink and recordnowmax. Is there a way to edit a dvd by chapter or only reauthor. Lets say if I wanted to edit a dvd that was R to make it more PG?
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10. May 2005 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well what you Could do is Rip the DVD as a Single Big VOB file useing DVD decryptor and then use a Mpeg editor like "Womble Mpeg2VCR" or "Womble Mpeg Video wizard" to edit out the Parts of the VOB file you want to edit out and save the VOB file as a Mpeg-2 file(No Quality Loss) and then Load the edited Mpeg-2 file into a DVD authoring Program Like DVDLab and add your Menu"s and Chapters and author it to DVD....

There Might be a way to do it with DVD-Shrink but I wouldn"t know as I do not use Backup programs to Backup my DVD"s....

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11. May 2005 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Minion - How do you back up your DVD's? I use dvdshrink then recordnowmax.
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11. May 2005 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just buy two of each!! he-he :)

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11. May 2005 @ 18:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I usually like to put 2 or more Movies on each DVD so I have to use a Manual DVD Backup method simular to the way poeple Back DVD"s up to VCD or SVCD....

I first Rip the DVD (Usually 2 DVD"s) with SmartRipper or DVD decryptor as a Single Big VOB file with One Audio track, I then Rip the DVD again but I just rip the Menu"s and any special features that I want to Keep which are usually none unless there is something really Interesting Like an alternate ending or something like that....

After ripping the DVD to a Big VOB file I run the VOB file through DVD2AVI which removes the 3:2 Pulldown and extracts the Dolby AC3 audio File and makes a D2V Frameserver File....

I then Frameserve the D2V File To CinemaCraft Encoder SP 2.70" useing AVISynth and Sometimes use some Filters like a Sharpen filter ect....

I then encode the Frameserved File to Mpeg-2/DVD useing CCE"s Multi-Pass VBR Encodeing Mode and my Custom Quantize Matrix and some tweaked settings that allow me to get extremely High Quality useing an extremely Low bitrate....

After encodeing to Mpeg-2 the Whole Movie is usually only about 2gb for a 90 to 100 minute Movie so I can usually put 2 of these Movies on to DVD.....

What I do then Is I take the Menu"s i ripped and select the Ones I am going to use and Make JPG Images out of the Menu"s or if the Menu"s are Motion menu"s I will just use a mpeg editor to Edit the Motion Menu out and save it as a Mpeg-2 File....

I then use "MediaChance DVDLab Pro" to Author the Movie(s) with the Menu"s and Motion Menu"s to DVD...
I Make a Main Menu were you can select the Movie you want to watch and after selecting the Movie it takes you to the Main menu for the Movie were you can select if you want go to the Scene selection menu"s or if you want to play the Movie from the Beginning or from any chapter and select any Special Features ,That is If I decide to use any......After watching the Movie you can go back to the Main Menu again and select to watch the other Movie.....

I can also Put more Movies on a DVD if I want...I can get up to 3 or 4 Movies if I use the Half D1 DVD Standard or More if I use the SIF/CIF DVD Standard but there is a Sacrifice in Quality when useing these other resolutions but in some cases when useing the Half D1 Standard you can Not tell the Differance in quality from the Original DVD and that is with 3 or 4 movies on each DVD....

Well that is the Long and drawn out process I go through when Backing up a DVD and simulr to the Process that I use to Put Other Files (AVI,Mpeg,WMV ect) on to DVD.....

I do it this way because I like to be able to get as much on a DVD as Possible but without Sacrificeing Quality and I also Like the Process, So what if it takes a few of Hours to back up a couple DVD"s if I enjoy doing it and the Quality is Good?? Pluss You get to learn a Lot about Video when you have to basicly decompile a DVD and Rebuild it again from Scratch....

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16. May 2005 @ 04:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
MINION - hello!
We spoke a long time ago when i had trouble with ADVC-100... and you helped me.

Now, I would like to ask your opinion about Snazzi DV Bridge II - how is it compared to Canopus products? I know Snazzi was a part of Dazzle so that doesn't sound good to me, but i want to ask your opinion.

Thanx;)
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16. May 2005 @ 04:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah, I would be interested, also in Snazzi but the parent company doesn't have a good reputation.
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16. May 2005 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don"t Know Much about the "Snazzy" but it doesn"t sound very Promising....The only Snazzy products that I have heard of were quite Old and from what I heard about them they were not very good at all...I"m sure they aren"t even in the same League as Canopus Products....

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16. May 2005 @ 18:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Snazzi distributor's homepage: http://micronica.com.au/catalog/snazzi/
PCI card $286 AU
USB dev $336 AU
For those prices, you could get three PVR-150's, or a Canopus ADVC-110.

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Cheers, Jim
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17. May 2005 @ 01:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Taking a look at the specs-
Usb bus powered- hmmmmmm, not sure how good that is.
Audio spec is pcm wave- hmmmm, where is ac3 dolby support?
No details on the chip inside- I'd try to find out the chip maker and dig into some details about it.
Intervideo Windvd creator- hmmmm, not the best just ok. There are better encoders, editors, and authoring solutions.
Muuvee software- hmmm, why do they insist on goofy naming conventions?
Price- way overpriced! There are the Hauupauge or Plextor devices priced at more reasonble levels.

ok, sorry, looked at wrong one.
At any rate a good idea is to dig into the chip(s) that are in these products and find some technical info.

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17. May 2005 @ 02:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanx a lot for your replies. I'm better with motherboard chipsets than with capture cards chipsets, but i'm slowly learning. I do not consider Canopus ADVC 100 such a great product, after having used it. I think it has problems with saturated images (like the ones i get on cable over here).
I haven't had the chance to test the ADVC 300 yet. Is it significantly better?
Anyway, what i'd be more interested in is a device to transfer my VHS tapes to my hard drive in UNCOMPRESSED format, not DV (which has a little bit of compression). Ordinary TV tuner can do uncompressed AVI, but they have 10-bit converters, while the ADVC 100 has a 24bit converter (much higher quality picture).
What device is suited for uncompressed (raw AVI, pcm sound) capture(transfer) of VHS to AVI?
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What device is suited for uncompressed (raw AVI, pcm sound) capture(transfer) of VHS to AVI?
None. Your hard drive probalby won't be able to sustain the datarate needed for uncompressed AVI, especially at larger aspects.
Use Huffyuv, or the native DV to capture/transfer.
Software controls audio, so use PCM if you must.

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17. May 2005 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm pretty sure it will sustain (2xHDD in RAID mode for speed).

Are you saying there are no 24-bit capture cards that will capture uncompressed?
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17. May 2005 @ 08:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't understand what all the hoopla is about. This is what I do. I have my vcr connected via rca jacks to Dazzle to the computer via usb. I use Pinnacle v.9 and play the vcr tape and record on Pinnacle. Then I can edit and play with the recording as much as I want. Then I can write it all to DVD.

Ginny
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17. May 2005 @ 09:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what about the ad on the message page for Video Advantage cards? 169.00 for stand alone like Canopus and others go in DT ports.
Anyone tried them?
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17. May 2005 @ 11:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ pinkish. Sure there are 24 bit cards. Nobody said you HAD to use compression, but if you're using a DV cam, then you SHOULD be transferring the video directly to the hard drive, not capturing.
If you want 24 bit, professional quality, get this: http://www.detools.com/shop/PSY/index.html#DC30%20pro
Make sure you're sitting down when you get to the price. :)

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Cheers, Jim
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17. May 2005 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not even going to look at the price. I know it is out of my class. But just what I thought...You gotta pay if you want quality. Thanks
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18. May 2005 @ 05:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rebootjim, i see what you mean, but i've read a lot about capture cards (tests from different places) and it looks like ALL Pinnacle cards have a problem with sound sync when you record more than 60-70 minutes.

I saw a card (i don't remember the name and i'm not home right now to see the link) that had SDTV-resolution capture and another one (from the same family) that could do SDTV and HDTV-resolution video capture. The SDTV one looked pretty tempting...

What i am looking for is a card that was out in 2004 or so (new model, not old ones), because Pinnacle cards are more likely to fit the 90's... I don't mind paying a higher price if i pay for quality, not marketing. In the end, i only want to make an EXACT copy of a VHS to my hard drive, but in sync even if i have 4-hour long VHS tapes with bad frames and over saturated images (i exagerated for the sake of the discussion).
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I saw some SD cards but they only have SDI connectors, no RCA or anything like that to connect to a VCR.

bluefish444.com - SD Envy card ? $3199
digitalvoodoo.net - SD Flex - $2399
More here: http://www.sharbor.com/catalog/digitalvideo.html

From what i've heard, leave out the Matrox and Pinnacle cards, they are trouble.

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In the end, i only want to make an EXACT copy of a VHS to my hard drive, but in sync even if i have 4-hour long VHS tapes with bad frames and over saturated images (i exagerated for the sake of the discussion).
You can do this a LOT cheaper than those cards then.
Get a Datavideo DTV-1000. Hook it between the VCR and your computer.
Go to it.
For added quality, put a Canopus ADVC-110 (or 300) inline as well.
A TBC and a video processor will do magical things with crappy VHS :)

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Cheers, Jim
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18. May 2005 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for your quick reply.

I dislike the Canopus products - i've had the ADVC 100 and sold it after a month of pain and changing the settings and setup. It has a lot of issues that i've mentioned on this thread mid-2004.

I've not found the Datavideo DTV-1000, what is it? A TBC? Or is it an external capture card?
Anyway, do you have any other ideas besides the Canopus, Matrox, Pinnacle, Dazzle, Snazzi and Plextor products? I'm running out of ideas myself :)
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The Datavideo is a hardware video processor amp.
Look here: http://www.datavideo.us/products/tbc_1000_main_page.htm

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Cheers, Jim
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18. May 2005 @ 08:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep, that's what i've thought. It enhances the image and keep everything in sync, but i still have to use another DEVICE to send data to the computer (like the advc110 you mentioned). What device should i get that is not from any of the mentioned companies in my other post?
 
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