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6. February 2006 @ 04:58 |
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@ireland
If I had not quit those pics sure would make me, ugh!
@GrandpaBW
Keep going you are doing great.
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6. February 2006 @ 05:08 |
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Both of my now x wives were smokers and both quit while with me. Not that i made them quit, they just decided to do it for themselves. I watched both go thru the withdrawals, and it wasn't pretty. Of course i caught a lot of flack, but i put up with it because i knew that they were going thru some rough times. It is a nasty habit to get stuck with, and anyone quitting or trying to quit has my support. Not just you, but your whole family will benifit from a smoker quitting. We all know smoking is bad for you, but it really takes something like irelands pics to wake some ppl up to the damage cigarettes do to you. Leave those lung pics there ireland, if it groses out ppl, good, it should. GOOD LUCK to all you smoking quitters. You have the power to stop, if you just believe in yourself. Hang in there GrandpaBW you will make it, and NEVER even try a puff after quitting. It is very easy to get back in to smoking, but its very hard to quit. Wish i had some magic words everyone could use to quit, but the magic will have to come from within yourself.
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7. February 2006 @ 13:57 |
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Haven't been here in the past day or so. An update for all who care. :) Day 23, and I have not had a craving for a smoke in 3 days. This is getting serious. I am one happy person. Not anywhere near defeating the damned habit, but getting closer to it every day, now.
Life is good!
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
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7. February 2006 @ 14:00 |
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It will get better and cheaper
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dr_no
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7. February 2006 @ 14:19 |
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Damn, after finding this thread and reading all through it, I came to conclusion!
Maybe I should change the picture in my signature !
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7. February 2006 @ 14:35 |
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Cigarette Maker Hid Toxicity of 'Low Tar' Brands
HealthDay
Yahoo! Health: Addiction News
February 7, 2006 03:57:04 PM PST
TUESDAY, Feb. 7 (HealthDay News) -- Cigarette maker British American Tobacco (BAT) developed a strategy to conceal the toxicity of its cigarettes, according to a study published online Tuesday in The Lancet.
Canadian researchers at the University of Waterloo reviewed internal company documents and found that BAT developed cigarettes that produced low yields of nicotine and tar under standard laboratory testing protocols but, in fact, delivered much higher levels of tar and nicotine to real-life smokers.
The documents show that BAT was aware that human smokers typically draw puff volumes almost twice as large as the International Standards Smoking (ISO) machine used in testing protocols. BAT sought to maximize the discrepancy between the low machine yields -- which are often printed on cigarette packages and used in marketing campaigns -- and the levels of tar and nicotine actually inhaled by smokers, the researchers said.
These cigarettes were marketed to health-concerned smokers as low-tar alternatives.
BAT used this product strategy despite the health risks to smokers, and ignored ethical concerns voiced by its own senior scientists, the study found.
"Overall, these documents depict a deliberate strategy whereby BAT and ITL (Imperial Tobacco Limited) designed products that would fool their consumers and regulators into thinking these products were safer or less hazardous when they were not," the study authors wrote.
Read this page in Spanish - Esta pagina en espanol
Health Effects of Cigarette Smoking
Fact sheet
February 2004
The adverse health effects from cigarette smoking account for 440,000 deaths, or nearly 1 of every 5 deaths, each year in the United States.1,2 More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.1,3
Cancer
* The risk of dying from lung cancer is more than 22 times higher among men who smoke cigarettes, and about 12 times higher among women who smoke cigarettes compared with never smokers.4
* Cigarette smoking increases the risk for many types of cancer, including cancers of the lip, oral cavity, and pharynx; esophagus; pancreas; larynx (voice box); lung; uterine cervix; urinary bladder; and kidney.5
* Rates of cancers related to cigarette smoking vary widely among members of racial/ethnic groups, but are generally highest in African-American men.6
Cardiovascular Disease (Heart and Circulatory System)
* Cigarette smokers are 2?4 times more likely to develop coronary heart disease than nonsmokers.5
* Cigarette smoking approximately doubles a person?s risk for stroke.4,7
* Cigarette smoking causes reduced circulation by narrowing the blood vessels (arteries). Smokers are more than 10 times as likely as nonsmokers to develop peripheral vascular disease.8
Respiratory Disease and Other Effects
* Cigarette smoking is associated with a ten-fold increase in the risk of dying from chronic obstructive lung disease.4 About 90% of all deaths from chronic obstructive lung diseases are attributable to cigarette smoking.4,9
* Cigarette smoking has many adverse reproductive and early childhood effects, including an increased risk for infertility, preterm delivery, stillbirth, low birth weight, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).9
* Postmenopausal women who smoke have lower bone density than women who never smoked. Women who smoke have an increased risk for hip fracture than never smokers.9
"Moreover, this product strategy remains in place today, as does the tool of its deception, the ISO cigarette testing protocols. The current review leaves little doubt that the ISO standards should be discarded in favor of new standards that meet the needs of consumers and regulators, rather than those of the tobacco industry."
More information
The U.S. National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion outlines the health effects of smoking.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/factsheets/HealthEffectsofCigaretteSmo...
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7. February 2006 @ 17:28 |
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I quite 9yrs ago!!! and never went back!!!!
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7. February 2006 @ 17:50 |
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High fives to you, IHoe! If I make it to July, without having a cigarette, I will make it for 9 years, too.
I did tell my wife that I intend to take up smoking again, when I turn 80. LOLLOL
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
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8. February 2006 @ 03:06 |
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Ihave quit many times before this..... a couple of times I quit for a year only to make an excuse to go back...... there are no excuses to go back, just rationalizations! I will never go back again!
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pmaknelho
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8. February 2006 @ 04:14 |
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Keep up the hard work gramps. I'm 26 and smoked since i was 16. I have made numerous attempts at quiting(1 week, 2 months, 3 weeks, 5 months) and I always ended up going back. Right now I haven't had one in about 9 weeks and I'm more optomistic this time than others. I did alot of research on cigarettes and nicotine trying to figure why I kept going back? I've got bad news, but if you knwo the truth it might help with the addiction. Nicotine actually mutates the central addiction part of your brain. You WILL probably have cravings the rest of life. Best case scenario studies show you the cravings will stop after 5 years(Even for people than have been smoking for less than a year). Also, everyone has thier own difficult situations where the craving are exponentially increased. For me- heavy drinking, playing poker, golf, and bowling. During all these activities I never go without a pack of normal gum(no nicorete crap). Nicotine is also more harmful to the heart than anything else found in cigarettes, so try really hard not to cheat with gum, patches, or other devices. Once the nicotine is totally out you will have a bad 1-2 weeks of your body detoxifying itself. Diarreha, coughing up green, yellow, brown, red and other shit you've probably never seen before, headaches, stomaches, and mood swings. The two most important things you must realize if you want to be successful.
1. Nicotine is an addiction and I will problably crave it forever.
2. I don't need it. I dont need it. I don't need it.
I hope this info helps and incourages other people to quit. Also tell all the young people you know about the "worst, dumbest, most addictive drug in the universe"
good luck everyone
BTW
@ireland there was a chemist that worked for a cig company that spoke at our school. His team in the 90s or 80s created a compound that that had the same calming effects of nicotine, but wasn't harmful to the heart. The company owns the formula and will never release due to fear of being sued because they knew cigarette were harmful for you. If you want the name to google let me know and I'll ask my principal
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8. February 2006 @ 06:46 |
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@pmaknelho........ I, too, have stopped many times before I really stopped. You are just practicing for the real thing, permanently stopping! You'll make it! Just keep trying! I had stopped 3times for 2 months, 4 times for 6 months, and once for a year..... but when I finally determined that I HAVE to stop then I did and it's 9yrs now.... no cravings, and no wants to go back. I smell smoke now and I get sick, litterally! I don't even stay in the same room or know anyone of my friends that smoke! It just worked out that way!
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8. February 2006 @ 08:04 |
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I know of a couple of people that were heavy smokers, and the way they chose to quit was to take it as a joke! The initial thing was to take a break from cigs... No added presure of the words 'quitting smoking'. Just a harmless break from the ciggies to clean up a bit... When asked they just used to say: "oh, i smoke, i'm just taking a break from it...". 2,3,4,5 weeks followed... No cravings, no temper fluctuations, nothing. After a couple of months they finally started to say that they were TRYING to quit... And after a while they were clean, off them... I found that story really nice, very cleverly done. If i decide to quit myself i might try that method...
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pmaknelho
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8. February 2006 @ 09:24 |
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"practing quiting" if you want to call it that has made it ALOT easier the 10th time around
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8. February 2006 @ 16:32 |
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when you're ready you will stop!!!!!
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8. February 2006 @ 17:53 |
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You are correct, IHoe. You have to want to quit, or it won't happen. I am almost through my 24th day now, and I sure the hell don't want to go through this again.
I have now had 80 less packs of cigarettes that have been put into my lungs. That alone, is friggin mind boggleing! I am 56, and may have quit too late in life, to save my ass, but I want to live long enough to see my grandkids grow up. Life is really good.
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
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11. February 2006 @ 11:49 |
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Day 27, and still doing ok. I don't ever want to go through this shit again.
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
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11. February 2006 @ 12:10 |
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keep it up man, i'm actually on the verge of quitting myself. you doing it because of those girls made me take a long hard look at my twins as well, and they deserve for me to be around long enough to at least pay for their weddings. hell man after 27 days you ARE a non-smoker now. it would be crazy to put them nasty things back up. I hope it goes good for me, but i doubt it. the way i look at it, any hell i have to go thru is better than not seeing my kids grow up and give me grandkids to spoil.
http://my.afterdawn.com/darthnip/ <---pics of my twins :)
http://www.Lonero.net - friend of the forums, great guitar player
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11. February 2006 @ 12:49 |
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Good for you GrandpaBW!!
DH and I quit Oct. 2000. I quit on the 7th and he quit on the 9th. DH only quit for me. I knew that if there were Cigs. in the house I would be smoking them again soon. I'm the one who was just tired of smoking, coughing, wheezing and smelling bad. Besides I didn't want my Grand Kids to know me as a smoker. We're still married!!!
Here's the kicker it was much harder for me to quit than DH. He just put them down and never thought about them again. I was having dreams about them.
Your picture of the two little girls, Gillian and Eva, is the best reason to quit.
Karry
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11. February 2006 @ 14:14 |
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@darthnip:Give it a go. You know that I will help any way that I can. I still need help, myself. I am keeping a journal of how I am doing each day. I am glad that I started it on day 1. It is surprising to look back through those entries, already. It is still tough to not put one in my mouth, even though I am not craving one.
Those twins of yours are very cute. You are going to have the phone ringing off the hook down the line a bit. Just smack any potential suitors up the side of the head. lol Those 2 girls in my sig, are 2 of my granddaughters.
@bkshasta: Thank you, and a big congratulations to you and your husband! All moral support is welcome, and you are right. Those 2 little girls mean very much to me. They are a big part of the reason that I am quitting, but the biggest part is for myself.
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
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11. February 2006 @ 15:16 |
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@GrandpaBW.........It's NEVER too late to stop smoking!
This from: www.quitsmokingstop.com
Repair to Lungs, Body and Cells After Quitting Smoking
HAPPY LUNGS, HAPPY HEART, HAPPY YOU!!
The one occasion in your life you won't mind being called a "quitter" is on the day you quit smoking. On that special day, you'll wear the name with great pride and a new-found, well-deserved dignity.
With this new title come enormous gains. For one, your body's amazing recuperative powers will kick in and begin the IMMEDIATE repair of your body. Here is a mere glimpse of the amazing changes that occur in your body almost from the INSTANT you quit smoking (we are gratefully indebted to the American Cancer Society for the following extracted information):
20 minutes:
Blood pressure drops to normal
Pulse rate drops to normal
Heart rate drops to normal
Circulation has already improved
Body temperature of hands and feet increase to normal
8 hours:
Cigarette breath disappears
Carbon monoxide blood level drops to normal
Oxygen blood level increases to normal
Is already feeling better and it's only been 8 hours
24 hours:
Chances of heart attack begin to decrease
48 hours:
Nerve endings in nose and mouth begin to regrow
Ability to smell and taste are enhanced
Mucus begins to clear from the lungs
2 weeks to 3 months:
Circulation improves
Walking becomes easier
Lung function increases up to as much as 30%
1 month to 9 months:
Coughing, sinus congestion, fatigue, and shortness of breath all decrease
Lung cilia have regrown, increasing the ability to "clean" lungs and reducing the likelihood of infection
Overall energy increases
1 year:
Excess risk of coronary heart disease is half that of a smoker's
5 years:
Lung cancer death rate decreases by half
10 years:
Lung cancer death rate is now equivalent to that of a non-smoker
Pre-cancerous cells are replaced by healthy cells
Risk of other cancers (mouth, throat, bladder, etc) decreases
15 years:
You are at now no more at risk of heart disease than if you had never smoked!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!! You deserve a pat on the back.
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13. February 2006 @ 13:38 |
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@mackdl: Thanks for that post! I would not have thought that would be the case. I am now almost through day 29, and I have not had one puff off of one of those evil sticks.
It is really difficult. I have always loved to watch the Olympics since I was very young. I always smoke a ton when watching sporting events. LOL My mind tells me to put one of those sticks in my mouth, and I now tell it to watch the damned games, because I have no evil sticks in the house, anyway. LOLLOL
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
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13. February 2006 @ 13:39 |
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Good on ya Gramps
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13. February 2006 @ 14:36 |
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Hey Grandpa,
Can't believe I haven't read this before. I know that you have already been enundated with support but just adding mine as well. Whatever you need that I can do such as being a polite nag to check up on you then then feel free to ask. I think it's really commendable that you have decided to do this on your own. That is in itself a great step for you and a huge step for your family. Keep at it.
@Ireland
Is there any occasion that you don't have a pic for?. Now which internet morgue have you been hanging around for those?.
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13. February 2006 @ 14:37 |
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@Dr_No
It's a rare treat to meet your acquaintance. The name's Bond, Jamz Bond. You really musn't stop smoking by the way 'ole chap. Cigars are your friend. They're good for you....lmao
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13. February 2006 @ 17:13 |
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ireland... love your pics!!!
I plan to stop tomarow!!! Oh how is that possible I am only 13 and have never started or smoked once!!! Yes thats just another 2 minutes added to my boaring life!!!
~Domreis
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