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First time AnyDVD and CloneDVD user; also DVD-RB discussions within
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trotsky77
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21. June 2008 @ 19:24 |
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So if I can get 100% at DVD-5 then do that and then burn with imgburn right away, otherwise rip as DVD-9 and then use DVD RB?
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21. June 2008 @ 19:29 |
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you want to use dvd-9 mode, if your at 100% you don't need to transcode/shrink the file.
with dvd-5 mode its shrinking the file down to 100% or 4.7 gig
you want it uncompressed (using dvd-9 mode)so you actually know where your at as far as the size of the file
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trotsky77
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21. June 2008 @ 19:31 |
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OK, that makes sense. I will always use DVD-9 option. Too bad it switches bad to DVD-5 each time as I might forget to change it sometimes if I am in a hurry.
Alright, back to the DVD project now. :-)
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trotsky77
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21. June 2008 @ 22:44 |
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I am just ripping a bunch of DVDs before getting to the DVD RB stage of this project. One concern I have with DVDFab is there are quite a few DVDs the program does not detect, or sometimes I need to try them over and over until it finally detects them. Usually my drive does detect them though. Might this be an issue with Vista? I am a new Vista user.
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21. June 2008 @ 23:05 |
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its probably an optical drive problem
you have a box system?
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trotsky77
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21. June 2008 @ 23:14 |
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I am not sure if I understand your question. I am using a Dell laptop.
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 01:03 |
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I installed PowerDVD as I got sick of windows media player starting up for the DVDs. Then I rebooted. Now DVDs are detected much better. I just had a few that it took a long time for DVDFab to sort out but I got that part all squared away. I am batching up about 20 DVDs and then tomorrow I will try burning them and maybe test a few out.
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 01:17 |
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It appears that 1 or 2 movies in my batch have multiple angles. I am guessing this might cause an issue since I saved only one video stream per video. I wish I was paying closer attention so I knew exactly which ones there are. I am guessing then I can just add the 2nd video stream and be just fine.
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22. June 2008 @ 02:36 |
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you don't need both angles ripped, just one is fine
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22. June 2008 @ 07:23 |
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Originally posted by trotsky77:
That was my problem. I was on DVD-5.
Thanks again. :-)
that caught me out a couple times when i first went from the freebie DVDFab to Platinum :)
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 11:02 |
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Three things:
1) It appears most DVDs will take a little over 2 hours each. I am glad I can batch these.
2) I made the mistake of having working and output of all movies going into the same folder. I think everything is getting jumbled up now. What is an example of how someone separates out the working/output as well as the different vids when you batch them?
3) DVD RB states Forrest Gump compresses 60% still and I did movie only. Is this surprising or maybe I am misunderstanding it. I was hoping the compression would be better like in the 90% range.
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22. June 2008 @ 11:14 |
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Originally posted by trotsky77:
Three things:
1) It appears most DVDs will take a little over 2 hours each. I am glad I can batch these.
My Quad Core (Q6600, not overclocked) takes approx 45mins for main movie mode. Full disc ie an episodic disc or a concert dvd takes a bit longer.
Originally posted by trotsky77:
2) I made the mistake of having working and output of all movies going into the same folder. I think everything is getting jumbled up now. What is an example of how someone separates out the working/output as well as the different vids when you batch them?
I still haven't got around to researching how batching is done within DVD-RB; however i do batch AVI conversions with ConvertXtoDVD, that's quite simple, i presume DVD-RB is equally simple.
Originally posted by trotsky77:
3) DVD RB states Forrest Gump compresses 60% still and I did movie only. Is this surprising or maybe I am misunderstanding it. I was hoping the compression would be better like in the 90% range.
It's been awhile since i did Gump but 60% sounds about right. The beauty of DVD-RB is the resulting output from a 60% encode. I have recently done a fair few concerts & episodics in DVD-RB, as low as 49%, the output were mostly excellent. Dark scenes don't always come out perfect, there's apparently settings you can tweak for stuff like that but i've never bothered with that personally, i'm perfectly happy with DVD-RB on default settings.
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 12:16 |
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ZosoIV stated earlier that, "I would say the backup using DVD Rebuilder will be 97% as good or higher as the store bought DVD". So I was a little caught off guard when I saw 60% for Gump. With that being said, if these programs produce working DVDs and if the loss in quality isn't really that noticeable, then I am better off going this route instead of DL.
For batching I am starting over and trying the following.
1) I created a folder on my desktop named Rebuild.
2) Within there I made a folder for each of the 20 DVDs
3) In each DVD folder I created a folder called "working"
4) Obviously I target the working path to each respective working folder and the output to the respective DVD folder.
If there is a less tedious way to do this, please let me know.
I will have 20 DVDs to burn in about 40-48 hours.
Do I even dare rip more DVDs while running DVD RB or will that interfere too much?
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22. June 2008 @ 12:25 |
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Just found this re Batch mode, snippet from here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/97052/509264
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Q-6: What is DVD-RB's Batch Processing feature and how do I use it?
A-6: The Batch Processing feature is found on RB's File pull-down menu. This feature allows you to prepare/re-author several movies and save them as Project Files, and then group process them at a later time. The obvious benefit is that you can encode several movies while you are asleep ... or when you are off to work.
To use Batch Processing:
(1) Open Video_ts Source file.
(2) Choose Working Path (destination) folder.
(3) Choose "Save Project" on the File pull-down.
(4) Assign a number and/or name to "PROJECT" in the Pop-up's file name box.
(5) Create a unique Directory folder in which to save this project. Select with ?Save In? pull down bar.
(6) Repeat process for all files. (Note: Each Project File MUST have it's own unique Directory folder.)
(7) Choose "Batch Processing" on the File pull-down. Then choose "Save" on the open pane.
(8) Use the ?Look In? window to choose the Directory folder that has the desired saved Project file.
(9) Open this folder, double click on the PROJECT_.RBD file. It will add to the Batch Processing list.
(10) When the Batch list is complete, press "Process" and then go to sleep, work, etc.
You can try ripping while DVD-RB is going, I have multiple SATA-II hard drives in my main pc, and when i'm ripping to a drive that DVD-RB is also working from, DVD-RB can be slowed down quite a bit; i usually try to rip to a different drive than the DVD-RB working folder (i have the working folder on the C: drive and the output folder on a completely different drive. (I must remember to move the working folder to a disk less busy than C:)
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 12:28 |
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That is a good tip. I will rip to my external drive while DVD RB is in use.
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 12:35 |
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Originally posted by trotsky77:
2) I made the mistake of having working and output of all movies going into the same folder. I think everything is getting jumbled up now. What is an example of how someone separates out the working/output as well as the different vids when you batch them?
Here is from one of the tutorials...
(6) Repeat process for all files. (Note: Each Project File MUST have it's own unique Directory folder.)
I still can't tell if I need a separate folder for the working and output paths or if it is safe to use the same folder as long as they are for the same disc.
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22. June 2008 @ 12:40 |
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'fraid you'll have to be the quinea pig :)
..i'm not at home so can't test batch mode myself just now.
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22. June 2008 @ 13:03 |
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trotsky77, what i mean is the finshed product(the backed up DVD) using DVD Rebuilder will be within 97% or better of the store bought DVD
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 13:04 |
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OK, so the 60% is not really a number to worry about? Does 60% compressed mean it can still be 97% or better quality of the store bought DVD?
Ugh, I am such a newbie at this stuff. LOL
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22. June 2008 @ 13:06 |
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Just do Forrest Gump and see what the result looks like :)
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22. June 2008 @ 13:11 |
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Originally posted by trotsky77:
OK, so the 60% is not really a number to worry about? Does 60% compressed mean it can still be 97% or better quality of the store bought DVD?
Ugh, I am such a newbie at this stuff. LOL
Yes that is correct!
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 15:36 |
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To help me learn a little more about this stuff: if there is a video that is compressed to 60% and we say it will be around 97% quality using DVD RB, then what percent quality will it likely be if DVD Shrink was used instead? Will it also be 97% but just more of a chance of something going wrong, or would you expect less than 97%?
I know I am way over analyzing but this is interesting to me.
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22. June 2008 @ 15:53 |
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i would say your percent would drop down to around 80% quality using dvd shrink
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22. June 2008 @ 15:56 |
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When it comes to video quality, programs like DVD Shrink (ie transcoders, as opposed to encoders such as DVD-RB) just can't compete, not in a million years :)
..in fact you can test this yourself with Forrest Gump as a perfect example, try running that movie thru Shrink and DVD-RB and compare the results, you'll be shocked. You could turn on the quality enhancements for Shrink, it'll take a lot longer and with marginally better results but for something aggressive like a 60% video compression, Shrink will be holding it's head in shame :)
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trotsky77
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22. June 2008 @ 15:56 |
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OK, that is very helpful. When I compare my Shrink Forrest Gump to my RB Forrest Gump, I will likely see a significant difference. I also like numbers for when I explain this program to others.
Thank you both of you for your great patience through all of this. I really appreciate this!
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