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Will the ps3 ever be hacked?
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Panchod
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1. May 2009 @ 03:39 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by Panchod:
Originally posted by marcusita:
Originally posted by Panchod:
You're not a Sony Fanboy are you?
Its not clear who you are saying this to,and even if someone on this thread was a Sony fanboy,they are entitled to be.
Though i would like to point out,that disagreeing with you,dosnt make one a fanboy of any type,it simply makes them opinionated.
Let me explain something:
1) The point was not directed at you
2) It was a bit of a jovial/jokesy type comment
3) Lighten up man.
When it comes to console flamewars every fire begins with a spark so we try to clamp down on it before it gets out of hand.
Fanboy is one thing, but fighting over which is the best console....hmmm......As a Newbie I didn't realise people actually fought over consoles. That is a bit lame isn't it?
The Best There was , the best is, the best there ever will be! - Bret The Hitman Hart
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1. May 2009 @ 08:57 |
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Thanx Canuck & Marc. They are 100% right. Here @ aD we don't tolerate ANY of that, as we don't want that kind of element or environment to affect what we have here. We have always had a "Zero tolerance for fanboy flame starters" just as it is clearly stated at the very top (as a sticky) in EVERY console forum.
We have absolutely no problem with banning anyone at anytime, no mater their title. We don't play that here; never have & never will. Which is why we are different than 99% of the other sites out there that have console discussions who allow BS like that and have nothing but terrible problems with childish arguments (of which are usually based around misinformation and/or bias).
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Panchod
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1. May 2009 @ 11:53 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
Thanx Canuck & Marc. They are 100% right. Here @ aD we don't tolerate ANY of that, as we don't want that kind of element or environment to affect what we have here. We have always had a "Zero tolerance for fanboy flame starters" just as it is clearly stated at the very top (as a sticky) in EVERY console forum.
We have absolutely no problem with banning anyone at anytime, no mater their title. We don't play that here; never have & never will. Which is why we are different than 99% of the other sites out there that have console discussions who allow BS like that and have nothing but terrible problems with childish arguments (of which are usually based around misinformation and/or bias).
So as a PS3 owner can I criticise it?
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1. May 2009 @ 13:21 |
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There is a discernable difference between having a discussion with criticism and fanboy arguments based on misinformation and/or bias.
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Icbar
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2. May 2009 @ 04:01 |
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It really depends on what you think constitutes hacking the ps3..
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Panchod
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2. May 2009 @ 06:24 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
There is a discernable difference between having a discussion with criticism and fanboy arguments based on misinformation and/or bias.
By bias and misinformation do you mean say something like "I love x-box and I think ps3 suks because graphics are crap on ps3?"
For me, I am a genuine Sony fan (probably described as fanboy), I tend to buy Sony, but I am seriously angry about some of things aurrounding Blu-ray and PS3. I would have thought they would have learned from mistakes with other consoles and also with regard to dvd.
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2. May 2009 @ 08:15 |
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Originally posted by Panchod:
Originally posted by Oner:
There is a discernable difference between having a discussion with criticism and fanboy arguments based on misinformation and/or bias.
By bias and misinformation do you mean say something like "I love x-box and I think ps3 suks because graphics are crap on ps3?"
For me, I am a genuine Sony fan (probably described as fanboy), I tend to buy Sony, but I am seriously angry about some of things aurrounding Blu-ray and PS3. I would have thought they would have learned from mistakes with other consoles and also with regard to dvd.
Don't blame Sony them, contrary to what you may believe, Sony don't control the movie industry.
They were one of the many corporations backing Blu-Ray, they have to make their console region locked or else it would be dumped.
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Panchod
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2. May 2009 @ 08:23 |
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Originally posted by sobhy2406:
Originally posted by Panchod:
Originally posted by Oner:
There is a discernable difference between having a discussion with criticism and fanboy arguments based on misinformation and/or bias.
By bias and misinformation do you mean say something like "I love x-box and I think ps3 suks because graphics are crap on ps3?"
For me, I am a genuine Sony fan (probably described as fanboy), I tend to buy Sony, but I am seriously angry about some of things aurrounding Blu-ray and PS3. I would have thought they would have learned from mistakes with other consoles and also with regard to dvd.
Don't blame Sony them, contrary to what you may believe, Sony don't control the movie industry.
They were one of the many corporations backing Blu-Ray, they have to make their console region locked or else it would be dumped.
Look, I just want the PS3 to be as successful and as good as the PS2. That's all. I am sure they can do things to help this issue.
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willowlee
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4. May 2009 @ 19:04 |
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"Will the ps3 ever be hacked?"
nothing is impossible. somewhere somehow someone is probably working on it. might be for a awhile but i know it's doable. the ps3 has tight security, but i know someone out there can crack it.
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9. May 2009 @ 02:12 |
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I couldn't be bothered reading all the replies on this thread, so if I am saying something someone else said, my bad.
Anyways, I reckon they will break the ps3 sooner or later, I mean xbox360 and Wii have been broken. One of the troubles is you have to manually download the firm ware for you're playstation 3, since each firm ware sony releases would most likely prevent your playstation 3 playing copied games, aswell as damage the 'ps3 chip'. Also having a reliable source to download them. And then theirs that trouble of burning Blu-ray disks. One blue-ray disk costs like 20-40 dollars, might aswell just keep you're playstation 3 games clean so you do not need to back them up. What some people do with ps2 games that are big, is degrade the quality of the games so it fits the DVD-5 disk. Which is probably impossibly annoying to do with playstation3 games, if it is possible to take stuff out you don't need.
I am just posting this is because I am just pointing out my opinion.
Though if it does come down to backing up Ps3 games on Blue-ray disks, screw it. Just keep your playstation 3 games clean.
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12. May 2009 @ 22:22 |
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The PS3 will be hacked December 21, 2012.
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17. May 2009 @ 07:00 |
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I'm impressed with how long the PS3 has been going without a sign of any backup running (besides the PS2 games off HDD, but that's different). I mean I can see that people may not waste their time with it, cause I mean, you're gonna need a Blu-Ray burner which aren't cheap, and I just think because of that, people haven't really messed with it.
Though if PS3 backups came, that would be pretty cool, just the whole backing up blu-ray discs could suck if you make a coaster... That's a very expensive coaster!
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17. May 2009 @ 07:07 |
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Originally posted by DavGerm4:
I mean I can see that people may not waste their time with it, cause I mean, you're gonna need a Blu-Ray burner which aren't cheap, and I just think because of that, people haven't really messed with it.
You wont need a Blu Ray burner or discs,if the games are backed up onto the HDD.
If the method that the first Xbox used to back up games is utilised,then it would be possible to back the games up on any FAT32 HDD.
Also people have been working on the PS3 since it came out and quite a lot are still working on it and they wont give up either.
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17. May 2009 @ 10:00 |
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But it wouldn't work on a Fat32 HD because of the file size limitations inherent with it...unless you can split the image file of the game OR utilize a different format.
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karlroby
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17. May 2009 @ 10:48 |
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Im finding that peoples approximate prices on the blu-ray media etc is somewhat quite out as in the UK you can get a blank blu-ray disc for around 6 US dollars although a blu-ray writer is still around 180 US dollars its now a more attractive price to back up blu-ray media etc as here an original game is still 45-50 US dollars for the PS3 so it wouldnt be a bad investment anymore if it was possible to backup PS3 games :)
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17. May 2009 @ 15:50 |
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And if you catch a deal you can get them for about $4.50 a disc at times. Plus an LG 6x BD burner is about $160 now which is honestly not too bad considering I paid over $225 for a Plextor 2x DVD burner & $2 a DVD-R back 8-9 (or so) years ago!
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17. May 2009 @ 16:34 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
But it wouldn't work on a Fat32 HD because of the file size limitations inherent with it...unless you can split the image file of the game OR utilize a different format.
The way the Xbox 1 backed up the games,was to copy the contents of the game to a folder,none of the files where over 1GB,so if that way was used,then yes FAT32 would work a treat.
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17. May 2009 @ 19:15 |
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Ya it would be nice if it worked. But the xbox games were around 4GB, 5GB tops. Whereas the PS3 games are around 25GB. Fat32 just wouldn't work for the PS3.
And backing up the games to the HDD, you would need a big HDD for that, because you would only be able to put maybe 1-3 games on the stock HDD.
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18. May 2009 @ 05:06 |
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Originally posted by DavGerm4:
Ya it would be nice if it worked. But the xbox games were around 4GB, 5GB tops. Whereas the PS3 games are around 25GB. Fat32 just wouldn't work for the PS3.
And backing up the games to the HDD, you would need a big HDD for that, because you would only be able to put maybe 1-3 games on the stock HDD.
lol as i said the Xbox puts the files in a folder,it takes the structure of the disc and puts it in a folder,non of the induvidual files are big,so you have hundreds of files in one folder,its basically like unraring a huge 10GB rar into a folder,the huge rar will be gone but the folder with the individual small files will be left and that 10GB folder with the small files will now be able to be place on a FAT32 HDD.
If PS3 games are done in this way and non of those small files are above 4GB,then FAT32 will work
The PS3 games may be 25/50GB,but they are made of small files and as i said if the small files are below 4Gb,then that will by pass the FAT32 problem.
Also for the internal HDD,you can use an extender,that lets you use 3.5" HDD's,so really there are no limits.
Also a 25GB game will have dummy files and such,so a game probably could be shrunk to perhaps 18GB.
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18. May 2009 @ 05:48 |
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I'm still hopeful. I originally got a 40GB PS3 with my mobile contract, was at first just gonna sell it on but decided to keep it. Then I saw one of those pyramid schemes and gave it a go, took a year to get referrals but then I did get a 80GB PS3, but not BC :(
So I still have both, not selling the other as when the PS3 is hacked SOny will most likely ban PS3s with unofficial firmware from the PSN, so keeping one as an offcial console and another, when the time comes, as the hacked console.
All we have to do is wait.
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18. May 2009 @ 09:06 |
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Marcusita I understand what you mean and in theory it COULD work, but that depends on the devs making the games in that way since the files you are comparing to on the Xbox 1 were already structured that way on the disc.
From all my experience, reading and information I have with modded Xboxes whatever dashboard (XBMC, Avalaunch, UnleashX, EvoX etc.) you use doesn't split anything, nor any application used within it (unless I have forgotten since it has been a while??). It just so happens to be that the devs never made a game that had a single file bigger than 4gigs whereas on a BD you can have a video(s), cut scene(s), movie or possibly multi channel uncompressed audio files larger than that because of the inherent space available to them on a BD.
Now you gave a basic explanation of how it could work 2 posts above if the files on a BD are less than 4gigs. BUT in order (or an option) for your idea to work for larger than 4gig files the program that a hacker/scripter would have to make, has to include some sort of a splitter to handle that separately either via the files on the disc itself or rip it say as 1 large ISO file to THEN split it into properly sized chunks of which would be tied/lead into each other or the next required file(s).....but that is basically what I said (meant) earlier "unless you can split the image file of the game".
Either way we will have to wait and see what may (or may not) come out...
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cptracks
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18. May 2009 @ 15:56 |
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something interesting to look into is I know some ppl have bought several PS3s and then put Linux on them and by connecting them all together you can make them into a budget super computer for computing things
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karlroby
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18. May 2009 @ 16:01 |
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Originally posted by cptracks:
something interesting to look into is I know some ppl have bought several PS3s and then put Linux on them and by connecting them all together you can make them into a budget super computer for computing things
Its not a bad idea if you need all the processing power for something but now there are a small hadful of companies such as Viglen that now sell super computers with several processors etc that i think are around the same price now as several PS3's so if you actually needed a super computer then maybe its better to buy one thats actually designed for that purpose and keeping the PS3 for what its good at. ;)
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bigo93
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19. May 2009 @ 05:03 |
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Originally posted by cptracks:
something interesting to look into is I know some ppl have bought several PS3s and then put Linux on them and by connecting them all together you can make them into a budget super computer for computing things
True but these PS3s are not the same as retail PS3s, they have a different firmware I believe.
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19. May 2009 @ 10:06 |
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Man I wish the PS3 could play Import and Backup PS2 games. :|
That's all I really want.
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