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Londor
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4. August 2004 @ 02:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brobear the more you write the more you show you do not know what you are talking about.

About the RIDISC brand you should contact Ritek and they will let you know that it is not one of their brands. As I said before is an e-Net brand as DATAWRITE, DATASAFE and BULKPAQ. Do your research and find out who e-Net is and how they do business. You can start here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/22304

Regarding Ritek codes, G01 and G02 is the dye used in the 1x media, G03 is the one used in the 2x media, G04 is the one used in the 4x media and G05 is the dye used in the 8x media. G0x is not a quality code.

Ritekusa is the official distributor of Ritek in the USA and they only import RIDATA dics. (http://www.ritekusa.com/ebproduct.asp?catmainid=1)
Conrexx is the one for Europe and they import RIDATA, TRAXDATA and ARITA plus they OEM dics for other companies. (http://www.conrexx.com/conrexx_brands/index.htm)

You do not know who I am and you are just presuming that I am an imbecilic twit in the same way you presume that the bits and pieces of information you got off the net and fail to put together are correct.
If you think that I am rude because I pointed out that what you were saying was misleading or false I then understand why you got to the conclusions you got. Whoever thinks a factory can produce all its media at the same level of quality is because they do not know how a production line works. Companies have different brands to market the differents qualities without jeopardizing the main brand.
You may thought you were being helpful but you were just misinforming people. I challenge you to prove that any of what I said is wrong.
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brobear
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I always say if the shoe fits, wear it. I have no idea who you are, other than it appears you are getting too much of your information from forums and retail sales people trying to improve their own sales.
Sales people wonder about the bottom line and your well being second.

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It is amazing how you think that doing some research is finding a web site that you do not know who belongs to, whether its information is biased, flawed or inaccurate and take it as the fountain of the universal knowledge. If you want to know the truth I told you to contact Ritek which you refuse to do because you know that it will prove you wrong and how much bullshit you have typed in this thread. G04 is the name of the dye and comparing cars to DVDs is absurd. Once you make a disc it is done there is no way to go back and rectify it. If that discs falls below the minimum quality required to be A grade belive me it does not get destroyed and it still is a G04 disk but it is not premium quality. Ritek claim that the dye they use G04 for the 4x media is a premium one and not that every single G04 disc is of premium quality for the reasons stated earlier. Instead of going on with your stupid rant do proper research before posting more bullshit.
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Obviously you need to learn what analogy means.

The rant has been all yours Londor, now its time for some proof. Other than sending us your vitriolic ravings, send us some proof. We would much prefer something relevant over your here say. Stop wasting your time and ours, use your computer to do some research and present some legitimate proof to back up your assertions.
Just show us the legitimate proof for your assertions Landor.

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http://media.fastclick.net/w/get.media?sid=9388&m=5&url=http%3A//www.conrexx.com/conrexx_brands/index.htm

Guess we do agree on something after all. But maybe for different reasons. Yes Conrexx is to Europe as Advanced Media, Inc. is to the US. I didn't realize we were dealing with one country here. After all I said it was a conglomerate involved in the sale of Ritek discs.

Guess it's time for the dictionary again.
Conglomerate: a large business organization that consists of a number of companies that deal with a variety of different business, manufacturing, or commercial activities.

So, once again Landor, what are you alluding to? I see nothing contradictory to what I said. More holes


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Brobear you can not even get my name right.

(http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/22304)

That thread is about the business practice of a company (e-Net) which is known for buying downgraded stock and resell it as A grade. You only have to read the whole thread (I know it is long and may challenge your capacity but it is worth) and you will find that even a former sales director for Conrexx joins in to back that up saying that the way Ritek is dealing with their downgraded stock is allowing this kind of practices.

I also remind you what I wrote in my first post (you can contact Ritek and they will confirm it)

"For example a company like Ritek will sell its 4x media as:
1- Best quality (grade A) under their top brands RIDATA, TRAXDATA and some OEM brands
2- Misprinted A grade and B, C grade media under the ARITA brand
3- D and lesser grade is printed with a picture of Mountains and Streams."

There is no question RIDATA, TRAXDATA and ARITA are Ritek's own brands.

However you will not find anything linking RIDISC and RIDATA in Ritek's website or in Ritekusa or Conrexx (that is why I posted the links).
If you visit RIDISC website (www.ridisc.com) you will find that after 2 years is still under construction. They claim that the discs are manufactured by Ritek which was never in question (the quality of the discs is) and if you try to contact them you will realize that is e-Net.

When you quote the Meritline website it clearly states that because they buy their RIDATA discs from the official distributor they can guarantee that they only sell "100% Grade A Genuine Quality Guaranteed!". Something you said you have never heard before (graded media).

As for any other question you may have I told you to contact Ritek instead of coming up with things that make no sense but in your mind.

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I don't know how this got mired down on just Ritek. The original point being made was that one can't always be sure of what they are purchasing. If what you say is true, then that just reenforces the point: "In a lot of cases buying by brand can be like a crap shoot". For that support I thank you Londor.

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"There is no worst case of deafness than the one who does not want to hear"

I do not know if that applies to you or is just a simple case of being brainless.
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Hmm!

The 200 Ridata that I've purchased are ID'd as Ricohjpn which is of no surprise since Ritek has had some of their lines made by Ricoh (with Riteks dye). A cake box of 100 Ridata are currently selling for $47. at newegg.com.

Guys it?s OK to debate an issue but when you start calling someone stupid or of limited intelligence because they don?t agree with you then you?re just being rude. You don?t get more intelligent by calling someone else down.


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Thanks for the input Sophocles. I only wished to provide some handy information about cross referencing data on DVD brands and manufacture. Unfortunately I entered into a conversatin on the particular manufacturer Ritek. For which I am rudely attacked and called a fool by Londor. Even when I surrender and thank him, I recieve further insult and rudeness. I believe he actually enjoys his behavior.

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Londor
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Guys it?s OK to debate an issue but when you start
calling someone stupid or of limited intelligence because they
don?t agree with you then you?re just being rude. You don?t
get more intelligent by calling someone else down.
Sophocles I do not know if that is a reference to my last post
in which I just said that I do not know where he stands as
opposed to be directly called an "imbecilic twit" by him.

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hey londor...seeing that i'm still a new jack on this site doesn't mean that i have to go and read these attacks on persons like brobear..i don't know of him other than from this site,but people like him,scuba pete
and others have given me alot of good information and that my friend is worth a whole lot more to me than having someone try to show the world that he's the man...
so why not get out and move for the safety of mommy's
house and grow up and live on your own...it is a beautiful day in the neighbor


you shouldn't mess with someone who reads...they actually think
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as you can see it coffee time with my spelling and the word is neighborhood

you shouldn't mess with someone who reads...they actually think
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5. August 2004 @ 15:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Londor

I was responidng to this>

I do not know if that applies to you or is just a simple case of being brainless.

I realize that brobear can if you?re unfamiliar with him, seem abrasive but trust me he always researches his information from good sources, even if some of them are German. Sometimes two people can be arguing for the same cause from two different perspectives and yet the meaning of both gets lost in semantics. I?ve tediously read both of your posts and it seems that you both have more to agree on than not and yet we have all this. If it?s a fight you want then just wait for a while and a S-Y-K-E-S will come along ( I shudder at the thought).

Let me ask you this, do you remember where this thing got started? Who called who down first? Believe me I love a good battle when faced with someone piping malarkey to new members but I don?t see any malarkey here, just meaningless conflict. BTW, all the Ridata I?ve used thus far are made by Ricohjpn for Ritek with their dye(you tell by the gentle color of purple).


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I base my statament that he does not know what he is talking about when he says things like:

"The G04 is a quality designation"

"G01, G03, and G04 are 3 Ritek production codes for the -R format in 4X"

"RiDisc doesn't have to overwrite, they are Ridata"

"I have never heard about graded G04s"

etc.

You may find interesting the Ritek's response to this article acknowledging that they distribute low-grade DVD-Rs in the form of "landscape" or "mountain water" dics. A google search will show you that this dics have the RitekG04 (-) or Ricojpn (+) media code.

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=76

As well in this thread you will find in bold Ritek Austrlia's reply to someone asking for information on RitekG04 dics saying that there are different grades.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/78490

As for Ridisc being the same as Ridata read what TerrificF has to say about Ridisc. (this is the thread about e-Net)

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/10/22304

More on how e-Net does business.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/92137


As you can see just because some media may share the same code you can not say that they will be of the same quality.
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I'd settle for a soda and sandwich. Hi Nephilim.

Edited for useless text. Saying hello to Nephilum is a nicetie.

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