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DVDrebuilder CCE, with DVDremake and Other Tools for Beginners
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11. July 2004 @ 20:15 |
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Imagination? Ummm, my girlfriend says I have a pretty good one!!! (But the ex-wife...that's a different story). But you've gotta admit DB did have a way with words. I know they got a smile out of me a few times. Ya know, I think it'd be nice to have her around as a regular. Maybe bigorange could do something about that ... like check up on her video progress?
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11. July 2004 @ 20:26 |
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Yea right! We need bigo checking her "progress.'
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11. July 2004 @ 20:45 |
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Well ... it was a thought.
BTW, I did try DareDevil with ReMake Pro over the 4th. I backed off and went with K-PAX...which also caused me some problems when I edited out everything but the initial Universal splash. I just downloaded the latest Rev, and so I'll see if that changes anything.
I'm also having a look at vurbal's new RB guides, as I would like to go the RB/CCE route soon.
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11. July 2004 @ 20:53 |
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I would like to go the RB/CCE route soon.
I save at least one a day to do before I go to bed, its slow but damn the quality is unreal especially on really long running or really large files.
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11. July 2004 @ 21:22 |
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That's a good idea. I'm going to try to work that one in. As it is, I don't have very many blocks of time to devote to these intial learning curves, and this approach could be a good timesaver.
Concerning ReMake, how long is it taking to "export" a file? I'm running around 2 hrs with a 2.6 P4/512 DDR. This seems excessive compared to Shrink.
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I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. (Pablo Picasso) This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. July 2004 @ 22:27
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11. July 2004 @ 21:33 |
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doc, that's way too long, remake takes an average of about 30 minutes on my PC. Something wrong there.
Sophocles: Yea right! We need bigo checking her "progress
What the hell is THAT supposed to mean. Haven't you ever heard the term "true southern gentleman"? heh heh heh
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11. July 2004 @ 21:46 |
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Hey big-O. Have you been lurking on this one? I thought to accuse you of being a "southern gentleman" but never found the appropriate time ... until now.
'Tried IC8 ... just once so far. It made a coaster out of my G04. Do I need to do something other than have AnyDVD running and then set it in motion?
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11. July 2004 @ 21:57 |
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I prefer to rip in file mode with decrypter, only takes a few minutes, then use those in IC 8. What did you do exactly? It still should have worked with anydvd. what were your steps.
Any re-authoring? It has crappy re-authoring, use remake, I know ya got it.
Also before you're set to burn slide the compression slider up til your green line turns red, then back off a couple of points,example-turns red at 4.38 go back to 4.18 - 4.28 This will make your file larger, thus less compression. It tends to do things on the safe side. Believe it or not I have added as much as 20%!
Use rw's til you get it right. I always do with a new app.
I wouldn't call it lurking, just perusing from a safe distance. lol
GO VOLS !
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11. July 2004 @ 22:13 |
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I thought that I would "test drive" it from the first screen that came up. The Patriot was the DVD. I chose the source and destination, and pressed start. Some time later it prompted me for a blank DVD. Then it said it was completed successfully, however, I got a "graph building" error when I tried to play it. Didn't work in the standalone either.
I didn't look too closely at the media options, and somehow I presumed it wouldn't format RW's. I'll look more closely next time. I also need to play with it some more later this week. This was a "kid weekend" and when we weren't on the road, they were monopolizing my computer.
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I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. (Pablo Picasso) This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. July 2004 @ 22:23
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dimad
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12. July 2004 @ 02:36 |
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@bigorange
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doc, that's way too long, remake takes an average of about 30 minutes on my PC. Something wrong there.
30 minutes!? Somethingis wrong here also :)
As you understand it depends on the system. Having source on one "fast" (ATA100 7200RPM) disk and exporting to another disk usualy takes about 2 min per Gb, i.e. ~15 minutes for big DVD.
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12. July 2004 @ 06:09 |
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@dimad
I did some time tests on a 7.8 GB file. I have a C:7200 and D:5600. To just transfer this file from a 5600 to 7200 drive it takes 9-1/2 min. To export a RMP file from the 5600 drive to a 7200 it takes 16 min. To export the same RMP file on the 7200 drive it takes 23 min.
I am going to work with the DVD that took the 2 hours again. I was doing some excessive editing with it and it seemed like the whole system was starting to slow down near the end of the editing process. We'll see.
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12. July 2004 @ 10:06 |
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dimad, you're right. I did Rat Race last nite using remake and it took longer than I thought. I usually walk away and I was just guestimating. It took an hour and 5 minutes. Sorry Doc, I still think 2 hours is a long time.
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dimad
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12. July 2004 @ 11:34 |
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Did I say that it is wise not to use a system disk as source or destination? But even then: An hour ?! Oh boy!
No wonder some people ask for partial output of only edited files.
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MackemX
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12. July 2004 @ 13:38 |
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lol :D
I asked for partial output as I want to wait 2 minutes instead of 5 minutes. It would cripple me if I had to use the same HD
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12. July 2004 @ 13:42 |
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dimad,"Did I say that it is wise not to use a system disk as source or destination?"
I exported my files to another 120g external HD, that I do all my video work on. But, just curious, why do you say that?
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MackemX
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12. July 2004 @ 13:44 |
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@bigorange, it takes a longer to process 7-8Gb on the same HD and even more so on a slower HD system
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12. July 2004 @ 13:48 |
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Mackem X, thanx,I realize that, I thought he meant there was something unsafe or detrimental to the system. so sorry.
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12. July 2004 @ 13:53 |
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Wow, those are some long times. I do everything on 2 drives. One's 80GB 7200RPM with only a 2MB cache and the other's 160GB 7200RPM with an 8MB cache in a firewire enclosure. I think the longest time I've ever gotten (source and destination both on the firewire box) was between 15 and 20 minutes.
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12. July 2004 @ 13:53 |
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I sometimes run low on space and I hate processing on the same HD when doing anything. It's so funny seeing as it only takes a few minutes more but it's the fact it also slows down your PC overall so you can't really do much else either :(. Time for a snack attack or something I suppose when it does happen :)
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12. July 2004 @ 14:01 |
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Yeah, I try to avoid it, but sometimes I have 10 different projects going at the same time and I don't have a choice. It's especially bad since I got my camcorder. I usually have between 10GB and 20GB of AVIs waiting to go on DVD.
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12. July 2004 @ 14:14 |
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vurbal, then that makes mine seem too long. I'm working from an external 80g to another external 120g.
Maybe I wasn't so far off on my guesstimation after all. I'm gonna have to keep a closer check on this. I do know I did a lot of re-authoring in Rat Race, there are an awful lot of extras. I purposely timed it after dimad's statement and it was 65 minutes.
With rebuilder/cce, I know exactly what it took from the log. It's always in the 3 to 4 hour range. Used it for Rat Race and it turned out perfect. ( only one coaster since switching back to 2.67, I know I know, you don't wanna hear it, right?)
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12. July 2004 @ 21:21 |
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I finally had some time to check out the DVD that I clocked 2 hours on with RMP. It came in at 16 minutes this time around ... as are the others I've tested.
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12. July 2004 @ 21:38 |
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Does USing Rebuilder and CCE give you should good results that you shouldnt have to loose any features on a DVD-9 movie? If it is a longer movie what should be used in conjunction with it to edit out stuff?
Thank you and expect some more questions from me as this looks like the way I want go when backing up DVDS that have good extra features I want to keep.
edit - and how can you tell if the dvd you are backing up has multiple angles as I read that using rebuilder/cce doesnt support these?
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12. July 2004 @ 22:05 |
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f1drake...
Welcome to AD. The experienced folks use Rebuilder/CCE as a final step (before burning) to get the best quality possible. There are different softwares that can be used in the step before this. Part of this thread is discussing those softwares, and so I'll leave it to you to read about them. Here is a guide by vurbal that explains Rebuilder/CCE: http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial.cfm
There is also other sw that is easier for a new person to use, and will also do what you are looking for ... but many of these must be purchased. If you are just starting, I would recommend downloading the freeeware DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter from AD. With these two programs and a burner like Nero 6, you can shrink and burn a complete DVD 9 to a DVD 5. You also have the choice of editing out a lot of things. If you are new to this, this is a great place to start. Nero even offers a free trial period on their software!!!
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Add On. Concerning your edit about angles, I am just getting into this part of it. There are others that can explain this better than I.
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I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. (Pablo Picasso) This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13. July 2004 @ 00:16
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13. July 2004 @ 01:33 |
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drake, most of us use DVDRemake to re-author with rebuilder and CCE. Cost-25.00 and it will handle multiple angles
doc, when you gonna decide on a sig? lol
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