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27. July 2008 @ 15:55 |
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Wow, there's nothing in that build I'd keep if upgrading it to be honest, but as a priority change the PSU. Some Ultra units may be alright, but a fair few certainly aren't. You don't need anything as powerful as the 650TX unless you're after dual graphics, the 520HX will do you fine for modular cables, and if you want cheaper, go with the 550VX, or even the 450.
My turn to be a 'wise guy' here, I'd stay away from overclocking Pentium Ds too far, yours may have just about kept up with the Athlons Russ, but you pushed a motherboard a bit too far, and that was a solid Asus board. Since ECS boards are basically made out of paper, you should be careful!
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27. July 2008 @ 16:11 |
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My turn to be a 'wise guy' here, I'd stay away from overclocking Pentium Ds too far
The pentium Ds' were quite decent overclockers for their time. Tomshardware overclocked a D805 to a stable 4 GHz. I ran one at 3.8 GHz for months. It chewed up enough power to probably dim the lights within a 100 Mile radius, but it did great. I wrote a guide on another forum on how to reach 3.6 GHz with a D805 on a three phase board power supply. The Conroe's of course set a new standard for overclockablility but the D series had its merits. The D series just lacked the architecture to truly compete in a time when AMD was beating Intel's butt. The D series both 800 and 900 were based on Intel's netburst technology, and although it was not an efficient one netburst processors could handle high heat and lots of volts.
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27. July 2008 @ 16:12 |
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No problem overclocking them, I seem to remember at the time the D805 was a jawdropper for big overclocks, everyone was buying them! But as many people experienced to their cost, the vast amount of power they run can be a bit taxing for weaker power regulators.
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27. July 2008 @ 17:28 |
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abuzar1,
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Geez, relax man. Just because I didn't make a huge post doesn't mean I'm trying to be a smart-ass. I'm just lazy, so please don't get offended.
All I'm saying, currently the Corsair 650TX is cheaper, and would you not agree that it's better?
P.S. Just to clear things up. ATX is 12" x 9.6". All I said was that the Gigabyte is not FULL ATX, and that the Rampage Formula is. I never said which is better.
Hey man I was just poking fun! I was just pointing out that it was the form factor, rather than a performance difference. Otherwise someone that doesn't know might feel that they should use a Full ATX because it's better, which it isn't, so why even make a meaningless comparison like that? Also the P35-DS3 is old tech (over 2 years old) while the Rampage Formula is new tech! Oh! BTW, I did say that the Corsair would probably be the better buy! Based on 2 1/2 years of experience with mine, the Thermaltake W0093 would still be my first choice because of it's extreme quietness and performance! The rated noise level of 17dB @1300 rpm is very believable, and like I said it's the quietest PSU I've ever owned!
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My turn to be a 'wise guy' here, I'd stay away from overclocking Pentium Ds too far, yours may have just about kept up with the Athlons Russ, but you pushed a motherboard a bit too far, and that was a solid Asus board. Since ECS boards are basically made out of paper, you should be careful!
It was a solid MB for a P4, but was never designed for the load of a Pentium D! It was later beefed up to accommodate the Pentium D's after Intel announced that they would port the 865P chipset to the Pentium D's!! The one I got as a replacement from Asus was more heavy duty in the VRM's! Remember also that I had my problems when I still had that PowMax 480 watt PSU. I had it as high as 3.94GHz, ran it for several months at 3.86GHz, but encountered a glitch encoding and dropped it to 3.71GHz. I never had any power problems after the switch to the Thermaltake W0093. I was also able to hit 4.0GHz using it! Sanity took over (along with some serious yelling at from Sophocles LOL!!) and it ran the remainder of it's time with me at 3.84GHz, and ran more than a year at stock speeds for Russell till the MB finally died!
The D-805 was a terrific overclocker, thanks to a high CPU multiplier. We both know a couple of people who overclocked the D-805 to 4.0GHz!
As far as ECS motherboards go, the only one I ever owned was an exercise in futility as they simply lied on the spec sheet. It did not support the 800MHz Prescots as it said it did on the box and in the manual! Considering I bought it from Fry's as a combination MB/CPU with the 3.0/800 Prescot, I don't know who lied worse, Fry's or ECS! LOL!!
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27. July 2008 @ 17:32 |
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t was a solid MB for a P4, but was never designed for the load of a Pentium D! It was later beefed up to accommodate the Pentium D's after Intel announced that they would port the 865P chipset to the Pentium D's!!
Hmm! I seem to recall that you were looking for a fusion reaction on a three phase power supply with yours. LOL
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27. July 2008 @ 17:46 |
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Sophocles,
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Hmm! I seem to recall that you were looking for a fusion reaction on a three phase power supply with yours. LOL
LOL!! Yes, but had I been successful, I wouldn't have needed any power supply at all! Just about 40 Lbs of lead! ROFLMAO!! I can still hear you yelling at me though! LOL!! I fully deserved it as I did know better! I do think you meant Three Phase Power Regulation on the MB! LOL!!
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27. July 2008 @ 17:57 |
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I do think you meant Three Phase Power Regulation on the MB! LOL!!
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I can still hear you yelling at me though! LOL!!
I don't remember using upper case (caps) during the entire exchange, but it was an interesting discussion. If you had succeeded we would all have more affordable and cleaner power.:P
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27. July 2008 @ 23:08 |
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hey guys, ive been reading on how to overclock, im getting a q6600. and i was wondering, is the only way to OC is by going into the bios and changing the multiplier and such? is there like a program that can OC?
also, im getting a q6600 from newegg, and i read that the G0 version is better than the B3, how do i know which version im getting?
and im getting a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3 motherboard, with a corsair 550VX PSU. would i be able to easily OC to 3.0ghz? 3.4ghz?
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27. July 2008 @ 23:52 |
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I would bullshit you, but I dont feel like getting banned today.
Get the OEM cpu from newegg, it's G0. Get a decent aftermarket cooler for OCing. All RELIABLE ocing for 24/7 operations is done from the BIOS. If you're setting a record or something you OC from BIOS and then some more in Windows. Or if you have a locked BIOS.
3ghz should be easy, 3.4 will depend on your chip and cooling.
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28. July 2008 @ 00:08 |
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thanks abuzar. helped a lot
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28. July 2008 @ 00:57 |
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sup!
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28. July 2008 @ 01:10 |
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No problem.
Imran, not much. Going to be overclocking a Xeon soon. I will let you guys know how that goes.
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28. July 2008 @ 02:01 |
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dragnandy,
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also, im getting a q6600 from newegg, and i read that the G0 version is better than the B3, how do i know which version im getting?
For future reference, look at the Manufacturer's Product page, if it's newegg. It will show the exact processor page it's supposed to be from Intel with all the specifications. This way you have some recourse if they "accidentally" ship you the wrong one. All you have to say is that you checked the manufacturer's link before you purchased it and that the link "they posted" must have been wrong, and you usually will be taken care of! Newegg's pretty good about that!
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28. July 2008 @ 13:49 |
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ive been googling some guides on how to OC and i came to this thread.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1198647
what do you guys think about it? that threads pretty old so do you think the process of OC a cpu is pretty much the same? have you ever used Prime95 as a cpu stress tester? how long did it take to get a stable computer? from reading the guide it would take days! they suggested running the cpu stress tester for like 15+ hours on one setting to arrive at a stable cpu.
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28. July 2008 @ 21:38 |
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dragnandy,
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they suggested running the cpu stress tester for like 15+ hours on one setting to arrive at a stable cpu.
Most of us regulars here stress test for 12 to 24 hours! Even then, you get the odd glitch that shows up down the road and have to adjust things for it. A real good test for stability is Folding at Home! Chances are very good if you are completing the work units assigned to you, it's stable! You also don't have to beat the hell out of your CPU for problems to show up!
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28. July 2008 @ 23:13 |
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dragnandy,
I've changed some of how I test... I don't like to stress the crap out of my cpu with Prime95, OCCT, or whatever method you want to use for hours on end!!! ;) What real good does that do?? It's gonna fail using that system at some time, if it's 2 hours or 48 hours or one month. Doesn't make much sense to me. Of course I'm not one of the gurus, and DON'T claim to be either. :P A couple of hours will normally do what you need to see about stability. If you want to test the cpu you need to use it like you normally would or like Russ said do a little Folding@Home to see how she'll really do. :D
Ok... my 2¢ are over... lol.
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29. July 2008 @ 02:34 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
No problem.
Imran, not much. Going to be overclocking a Xeon soon. I will let you guys know how that goes.
nice, keep us posted!
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29. July 2008 @ 16:14 |
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man, overclocking seems like such a hassle. :P but its definately worth it
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29. July 2008 @ 16:35 |
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re seatign the NB TIM with OCZ freeze has me no more BSODS at 3.2GHz, its dropped my SYSTIN from 50 underload to 38, and from 45 idle to 34.
simpply superb. i dont kwno what PLL and the GTL references do, but i have found out my most stable ones, and its helped. right now im orthosing a 3.3GHz. been about 10misn no, no probelms yet, but ill see in the morning :)
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29. July 2008 @ 17:05 |
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dragnandy,
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man, overclocking seems like such a hassle. :P but its definately worth it
Just keep in mind that overclocking is something that should be done in stages, working your way up in speed. It also takes time, something the younger crowd here doesn't like to give up easily, and patience! I use Prime95 instead of OCCT or Orthos as their loads are totally unrealistic to any real-world use, in my opinion! Every degree higher in temperature correspondingly shortens the life of any CPU and Microprocessor! At stock speeds the CPU might last 8-10 years, overclocked it might only last 5! I'm trying to determine stability here, not cook Hot Dogs! LOL!! When you are satisfied with your results, do some Folding at home for a few days, and if it completes all the work units, you should be good to go!
Keep in mind that whatever stable overclock you reach, eventually you will have to back it down a bit, because of real world use issues, like Folding, games and so on. That solid 3.8GHz will eventually become 3.6 to 3.7, but it will be Rock stable at the reduced speed. Exactly what you are looking for!
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29. July 2008 @ 17:13 |
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actaully id agree with russ. OCing was about reaching the speed of the xtreme CPU you couldnt buy, and onyl used to be by a few hunderd Mhz.
BUT if you want to bench or jsut want E-peen, then getting those hard to reach numbers can mean alot. for example, with my E2140, the difference between 2.8 and 3.0GHz, i cant tell, nor in real life, nor in gaming, but still to have 3 over 2.8 makes me feel better, and to have 3.2 over 3 even better as that is a 100% OC from my stock of 1.6 :)
i wont notice the difference, but just having it there, stable, im happy :D
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29. July 2008 @ 17:16 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
re seatign the NB TIM with OCZ freeze has me no more BSODS at 3.2GHz, its dropped my SYSTIN from 50 underload to 38, and from 45 idle to 34.
hmm, I seem to recall somebody (Mort) recommending doing that some time ago. I guess that somebody does know what he's talking about after all. imagine that.
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29. July 2008 @ 17:20 |
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oh yes, i did get the idea off of mort, and i should have thanked mort... if you find him, please tell him thanks :P :D HAHA
jsut messing with you, thanks very much.
now i can see where asus cut the corners when they deliver £85 boards that you can clock the nutts off. speakign of which the new P5Q PRO seems to be doing nothign short of amazing for its £80 price.
the whole ASUS P5Q Range even the normal P5Q are clockign brillaintly, adn are stable aswell. its very good to see ASUS working well on ALL fronts, not just uberhighend.
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29. July 2008 @ 17:24 |
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I've changed some of how I test... I don't like to stress the crap out of my cpu with Prime95, OCCT, or whatever method you want to use for hours on end!!! ;) What real good does that do??
Prime95 and the others will stop long before it causes damage to any part of your system, it's very safe that way. They discover errors that are being created by ones system. Prime95 crunches numerical data with each stage have a predicted set of values. If the values are off then it means that your system is producing errors which over a few weeks or months will result in a corrupted system. Each time an error occurs it is being written back to your hard drive, and when too many errors have accumulated down comes everything.
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I use Prime95 instead of OCCT or Orthos as their loads are totally unrealistic to any real-world use, in my opinion!
Orhtos is just a GUI for Prime95, but under the hood it is all Prime95. When dual core processors hit the market Orthos' GUI was developed to use two instances of Prime95 to test two cores at once. It was easier for many than setting up two instances of Prime95 at once. Orthos is no longer needed since Prime95 now runs multicores, and Orthos is using older Prime95 code.
There used to be a lot of users that reported errors while using DVD-RB and CCE and many of the causes turned out to be overclocked processors that were creating errors.
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29. July 2008 @ 17:42 |
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the whole ASUS P5Q Range even the normal P5Q are clockign brillaintly, adn are stable aswell. its very good to see ASUS working well on ALL fronts, not just uberhighend.
They do all seem to be doing well but only the Deluxe and Premium has the 16 phase power design. The rest are all 8 Phase. Still I've had some great 8 phase boards over the years and couple of 3 phase boards that offered reasonable overclock ability.
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