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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.
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7. January 2010 @ 11:03 |
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Originally posted by adamryer:
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Hello everyone...
I know I mentioned that I would get around to creating new Blu-ray and AVCHD (BD5/BD9) profiles that are compatible with the newer x264 builds.
Well, I have finally found time to do it. So here they are...
I have uploaded MeGUI v0.3.1.1060 with all plug-ins and profiles as a complete package. Please don't forget to go into the settings to set-up the directories that you wish to use on your PC. Especially the x264 log/stats file.
The exiting news is that the new x264 build incorporates a new option called "MB-tree". It's all quite technical how it works but put simply it can increase compression efficiency by up to 70%!!
I get an unexpected end of archive error in winrar when I try to unzip the MeGUI package, anyone else getting this?
Your download could be damaged or incomplete, try to re-download. The RAR package is fine.
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7. January 2010 @ 11:28 |
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tried it twice now, will try one more time.
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adamryer
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7. January 2010 @ 12:10 |
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I must be having bad luck today because im still getting the same error. I'm using winrar 3.91 I believe thats the latest version.
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7. January 2010 @ 12:20 |
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7. January 2010 @ 12:32 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by emugamer:
Hey Ryu77, can you please explain the x264 log/stats file and how to set its directory? I'm going to run your HQ profile on a 28GB movie. I'm excited to see how much more compression I can get!
You do realise that depending on the bitrate you allocate, the filesize will be the same. By more efficient compression I mean that you will gain an improved SSIM index, in other words quality will improve at the same bitrate compared to the older x264 encoder.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Still looking forward to the results! What that means to me is that I'll be able to lower my bitrate and supposedly achieve better results. I typically use between 10k and 15k. I'll try 8k and see if I'm visually convinced. Or 8k with the old and 8k with the new.
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7. January 2010 @ 13:45 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Try WinZip. WinRAR worked fine for me.
Tried winzip, same thing happened. Mediashare is performing maintenance until 3, ill try again after that.
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8. January 2010 @ 16:37 |
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finally got the zip file to download.
I am fairly comfortable with demuxing files, converting audio using eac3to, and muxing to m2ts with tsmuxer now. My next step is to convert some BD rips that I have that have VC-1 video. I want to be able to stream these so I need to convert the vidoeo to h264 correct? I'm wondering what is the easiest way to do this? I don't really care about how long it will take, and file size is of no concern either, I want the best quality possible more than anything. I was thinking of using MeGUI to do the conversion, is there a easier/better program to use? If I sue MeGUI, which profile should I use? Thanks in advance for any help.
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8. January 2010 @ 16:48 |
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Originally posted by adamryer:
finally got the zip file to download.
I am fairly comfortable with demuxing files, converting audio using eac3to, and muxing to m2ts with tsmuxer now. My next step is to convert some BD rips that I have that have VC-1 video. I want to be able to stream these so I need to convert the vidoeo to h264 correct? I'm wondering what is the easiest way to do this? I don't really care about how long it will take, and file size is of no concern either, I want the best quality possible more than anything. I was thinking of using MeGUI to do the conversion, is there a easier/better program to use? If I sue MeGUI, which profile should I use? Thanks in advance for any help.
Are you streaming to a PS3? If yes, there is a way without re-encoding... and I see you already have an external HDD with a lot of space... which is also required.
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8. January 2010 @ 17:03 |
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yes I plan to stream to the ps3, and actually I do not have an external drive at the moment, my external enclosure is broken so the drive is internal at the moment. so for now I just plan to stream over my network with ps3 media server, which is why I have been converting the dtshd audio tracks that I have to lpcm, and also why I need to convert the few VC-1 rips I have.
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8. January 2010 @ 17:12 |
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Originally posted by adamryer:
yes I plan to stream to the ps3, and actually I do not have an external drive at the moment, my external enclosure is broken so the drive is internal at the moment. so for now I just plan to stream over my network with ps3 media server, which is why I have been converting the dtshd audio tracks that I have to lpcm, and also why I need to convert the few VC-1 rips I have.
OK, when you demux your video stream either use eac3to and demux to MKV, or use tsMuxeR are remux to M2TS. Use that file and re-encode using one of Ryu77's profiles. I suggest you re-encode to a couple of GBs smaller than the source, and use his fastest blu-ray profile. The video wuality will be pretty much identical.
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8. January 2010 @ 18:13 |
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Is there an option in MeGUI that let's you specify the size of the output file?
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8. January 2010 @ 19:54 |
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Originally posted by adamryer:
Is there an option in MeGUI that let's you specify the size of the output file?
Yup. Tools --> Bitrate Calculator. You can specify in File Size, or Kb/s. I always use File size.
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9. January 2010 @ 05:17 |
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Hey peeps
I need some help/advice.
I have an HD MKV file of 4.37GB in size and i want to burn it to a DVD but for it to be compatible with blu-ray players so i keep the HD goodness.
*EDIT*
Just downloaded video inspector and it says the the C0dec is MPEG4ISO advanced and the audio is 6 channel DTS
Now i have visited the links in this thread but am still not sure what i should be using or how.
Please help a noob in need.
Thanks
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9. January 2010 @ 11:38 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
I suggest you re-encode to a couple of GBs smaller than the source, and use his fastest blu-ray profile. The video wuality will be pretty much identical.
which of Ryu77's profiles is the fastest then?
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9. January 2010 @ 12:15 |
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Originally posted by adamryer:
which of Ryu77's profiles is the fastest then?
"Standard Quality" would be the fastest. Since your output will have pretty much the same video bitrate you do not need to use a better quality profile.
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9. January 2010 @ 15:01 |
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ok great, ill give it a shot. thanks for the help!
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9. January 2010 @ 15:51 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by adamryer:
which of Ryu77's profiles is the fastest then?
"Standard Quality" would be the fastest. Since your output will have pretty much the same video bitrate you do not need to use a better quality profile.
Please excuse me for jumping in but please keep in mind no matter what bitrate is being used, you are still performing a lossy encode so there will still always be benefit from using higher quality encoding parameters. This would still be the case even if you were using a higher bitrate.
However, in the higher bitrate ranges, there is less importance on using the higher settings as the higher bitrate usually is enough to ensure good quality.
I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding with bitrates and how lossy encoding works sometimes. Anytime you are encoding something through a lossy encoder, there will be "some" information lost to compress the size. Basically this is what happens...
Raw uncompressed video (RGB)--->Lossy Encoder (h264/VC1/MPEG2): The production studio will begin with a raw uncompressed video (for 1080p, this could be approx 500GB in size) that will be authored so that it is ready for distribution on Blu-ray disc.
Blu-ray Disc/HD Video (Compressed Lossy)--->Decoder: The decoder will decompress the video back into the raw RGB information so that it can be viewed through the player.
Decoder--->Encoder: Even though it has been decoded into uncompressed video first, there is still some information lost from the previous lossy encode that can NEVER be recovered. So re-encoding this material again, will re-compress the video with lossy algorithms, therefore losing slightly more information again no matter what bitrate is used. The goal though is to keep the loss as minimal as possible, which is why the higher the bitrate and encoding parameters, the better.
Please excuse me if I have stated things already known, I just like to keep things clear.
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9. January 2010 @ 16:24 |
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Ryu77, thanks for the clarification on how the encoding actually works. So basically I don't need to worry so much on which encoding parameters to use (standard, high quality, etc.) and just focus on the bitrate of the output video stream? So, using odin24's suggestion to use the file size option in the bitrate calculator, if I just specify the output file size to be roughly the same size as the input file, I will achieve roughly the same bitrate correct?
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10. January 2010 @ 05:42 |
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Originally posted by adamryer:
Ryu77, thanks for the clarification on how the encoding actually works. So basically I don't need to worry so much on which encoding parameters to use (standard, high quality, etc.) and just focus on the bitrate of the output video stream? So, using odin24's suggestion to use the file size option in the bitrate calculator, if I just specify the output file size to be roughly the same size as the input file, I will achieve roughly the same bitrate correct?
Of course the parameters are important. They improve quality at the same bitrate but slow down encoding. My point was that when bitrate gets high enough, the slower parameters have less impact.
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10. January 2010 @ 13:57 |
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ok I get what your saying. basically since im using a high bitrate, the difference in quality between using a slow profile or a faster profile will be minimal.
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12. January 2010 @ 08:42 |
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Hello again everyone...
I have found a bug in the current (new) set-up x264. The current command line that I created causes playback to be corrupt in a small number of players... But, sadly mine is one of them (LG BD370). Pity, I was using my PS3 to test my encodes as it is much easier to run AVCHD from a HDD then to burn and test. Now I have to do three 1080p encodes again. Anyways, it had to do with the weighted P-frame prediction. To be precise, there is nothing at all wrong with x264 nor the command line I have set-up but rather it lies within the decoders not doing what they are supposed to do. The command line I created is perfectly Blu-ray compliant (apart from B-pyramid but every player supports it so it is of no concern). You can read more about the problem here...
http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=212#more-212
As you can see, it is only a small minority of players, so it wont affect most of you but for me personally I need to change the command line as I prefer to use my stand alone for disc playback. I am the type that prefers complete compatability anyway.
I have uploaded a corrected package of MeGUI with the adjusted command line. Please feel free to download if you wish. I have also edited the link on the first page of this thread to be directed to the corrected version.
http://www.mediafire.com/?vjgdniwlnvm
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13. January 2010 @ 20:57 |
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@ryu77 & odin24
first let me just say...this is a great thread. i have been a bit outdated with the likes of back up. so i need a little help getting back into it. i have backed up all my dvds i want to keep etc a long time back with a prog called fairuse (very good for dvds). wont work with BR (or do you guys know something i dont?)the question is i now need to do the same with all my new my blu rays.
i want to compress them down to around 2-4gb or so with mkv container to store on my hdd.
i have all the new progs for this including your gui file (thank you). i take it first i need to use anydvdhd to back up to hdd then onto tsmuxer to demux the video and audio?(is there a better way?) then if i remember onto megui but i can`t remember what comes next? avscript?. time is not so much of a problem, space is a little bit. i just need them compressed at the highest bit rates i can.
thanks for any help
thanks alot!!
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13. January 2010 @ 21:13 |
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Originally posted by marco_c:
@ryu77 & odin24
first let me just say...this is a great thread. i have been a bit outdated with the likes of back up. so i need a little help getting back into it. i have backed up all my dvds i want to keep etc a long time back with a prog called fairuse (very good for dvds). wont work with BR (or do you guys know something i dont?)the question is i now need to do the same with all my new my blu rays.
i want to compress them down to around 2-4gb or so with mkv container to store on my hdd.
i have all the new progs for this including your gui file (thank you). i take it first i need to use anydvdhd to back up to hdd then onto tsmuxer to demux the video and audio?(is there a better way?) then if i remember onto megui but i can`t remember what comes next? avscript?. time is not so much of a problem, space is a little bit. i just need them compressed at the highest bit rates i can.
thanks for any help
just to add to this i tried to demux, then tried to add the vc1 file and is tells me i have an error - direct show error, you prob dont have the correct filters installed? any help with this or am i doing something wrong?
thanks alot!!
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13. January 2010 @ 22:06 |
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Hi Ryu, this is a repost of a question I asked a few pages back that I have yet to resolve.
I have been burning Blu Ray with Ryu's original BD to DVD-9 guide for quite some time now but lately I have had some issues with downloaded HD content.
The content in question comes in a .MKV container. I making the HD content into a Blu Ray compatiable DVD-9 just like the guide says. I follow the normal steps of the guide, but after I encode the video it stutters for some reason. The stutter looks like someone is clicking play / pause every 0.5 seconds. This is not happening with all the MKV. content I work with, just some of it. I have looked through the Media Raw info to see what differences in the source material might be holding me up but I cannot see anything that *should* be causing this problem.
I have spend many hours trying to figure this problem out but to no avail. The strangest things about my problem are:
1.) The original source files play FLAWLESSLY
2.) The problem does not seem to come up when I simply recode a small sample file.
I have tried at least 6 different encoding profiles but all of them have the same result. I have used different versions of MeGUI and I have tried multiple versions of x264 even though the guide clearly tells us that x264 should not be updated (I ran out of options so I wanted to try some stuff).
Help me please, my HDDs are quickly filling with HD content and I need to off load some of it on to discs quickly.
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14. January 2010 @ 06:25 |
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Originally posted by typoknig:
Hi Ryu, this is a repost of a question I asked a few pages back that I have yet to resolve.
I have been burning Blu Ray with Ryu's original BD to DVD-9 guide for quite some time now but lately I have had some issues with downloaded HD content.
The content in question comes in a .MKV container. I making the HD content into a Blu Ray compatiable DVD-9 just like the guide says. I follow the normal steps of the guide, but after I encode the video it stutters for some reason. The stutter looks like someone is clicking play / pause every 0.5 seconds. This is not happening with all the MKV. content I work with, just some of it. I have looked through the Media Raw info to see what differences in the source material might be holding me up but I cannot see anything that *should* be causing this problem.
I have spend many hours trying to figure this problem out but to no avail. The strangest things about my problem are:
1.) The original source files play FLAWLESSLY
2.) The problem does not seem to come up when I simply recode a small sample file.
I have tried at least 6 different encoding profiles but all of them have the same result. I have used different versions of MeGUI and I have tried multiple versions of x264 even though the guide clearly tells us that x264 should not be updated (I ran out of options so I wanted to try some stuff).
Help me please, my HDDs are quickly filling with HD content and I need to off load some of it on to discs quickly.
There is no problem updating MeGUI and x264... However, be prepared that sometimes an update may render my profile redundant. This is why I had to upload a new set.
Just how full is your hard drive? Could this be the reason for your stuttering. The m2ts container found in Blu-ray is a little harder to decode than mkv so if your hard drive is at its limit this "could" be the reason. It is a long shot but you never know. Other than that, I can not think what could be causing it.
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