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17. June 2009 @ 02:55 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I believe it was named after its inventor.
Celsius (also known as centigrade) is a temperature scale that is named after the Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius (1701?1744)
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17. June 2009 @ 11:36 |
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but we wouldnt base it off FH, we would see what the celcious was and use that :)
BTW we are very OT lol
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17. June 2009 @ 11:50 |
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I believe ISO (International Organisation for Standedization) say it should rather annoyingly be most important first YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM and theoretically as it is an international standard you can complain about anything that isn't in this format.
They don't have a standardised temperature measurement (for now).
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17. June 2009 @ 13:44 |
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You've chosen 10 decimal places as that's all will fit on your calculator. dividing by 9 (and therefore dividing by 18) gives recurring decimals, you can arguably never get identical matches for Celsius and Fahrenheit if you didn't start with nice round numbers, but who cares? it's like saying that because the number 10 doesn't go into 18 nicely, the number 18 is more scientific!
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17. June 2009 @ 14:40 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You've chosen 10 decimal places as that's all will fit on your calculator. dividing by 9 (and therefore dividing by 18) gives recurring decimals, you can arguably never get identical matches for Celsius and Fahrenheit if you didn't start with nice round numbers, but who cares? it's like saying that because the number 10 doesn't go into 18 nicely, the number 18 is more scientific!
Sam,
I used the computer, not a calculator! and it comes out to 15 decimal places! Anything but even numbers would not work too well for weather temperatures. There, Fahrenheit will always be around because Celsius just isn't practical for that type of application. People are not going to want to know that it's 43.27C outside. They'll never make any sense out of it. The number 18 isn't more scientific, it just scales better, and keeps the numbers even, without decimal places. The scale of Celsius is just to narrow, with too much change between whole numbers. Weather has always been in Fahrenheit, and will continue to be that way. I doubt that it will ever change. besides, could you imagine trying to take someones temperature in Celsius with a mercury thermometer? LOL!! It would have to be a foot long for all the graduations needed! You would be far more prone to making a mistake as the number of decimal places went up. It compresses the scale way too much. Even hospitals with their electronic thermometers are in Fahrenheit, and always will be! 98.6F is exactly 37C, but if they had a 100F fever, you have to go to 15 decimal places to be accurate, as it would be 37.77777777777778C!
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17. June 2009 @ 14:48 |
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well what if the temp is 20C and then in FH it might be a massive decimal.... works both ways....
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17. June 2009 @ 14:56 |
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Shaff: it never is, because that's the multiplication side. Surely you know you can't get recurring decimals from multiplication?
Russ: What about 0.5? Realistically, I've never met anyone who's so focused on the weather that the difference between 23ºC and 24ºC is too great to them. Scientists and Meteorologists and perhaps ship captains maybe, but they're professional enough not to be scared off by something like 23.3ºC, it's hardly difficult to understand.
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17. June 2009 @ 15:02 |
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Wow you guys must really be bored. First you discuss the order of how a date is written and then you go on to temperature measures? In the scheme of things who cares. Hell I virtually grew up in Canada which switched to the metric system when I was still young, and now I live in the US so I'm used to both Celsius and Fahrenheit; although, Celsius makes more sense. Canadians however mostly write their dates out the same as they do in the US.
Now regarding Kelvin !! If any of you guys have overclocked your processors to a point where they are hot enough to be measured in kelvins(could be Russ, I think he's done it before?) then it's probably a little late to recommend an effective cooling system.:P
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17. June 2009 @ 15:06 |
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Surely Kelvin's the easiest measure for lower temperatures? Liquid nitrogen is what, -196ºC or -321ºF? I prefer 77ºK... :)
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17. June 2009 @ 15:08 |
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LOL, Are you guys trying to get DDP's attention? Or perhaps creaky's :D
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17. June 2009 @ 15:12 |
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Surely Kelvin's the easiest measure for lower temperatures? Liquid nitrogen is what, -196ºC or -321ºF? I prefer 77ºK... :)
Absolutely however I suspect Russ is going to have to lower things with liquid nitrogen and then switch over to liquid helium.
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17. June 2009 @ 15:42 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
well what if the temp is 20C and then in FH it might be a massive decimal.... works both ways....
Shaff,
No it doesn't! 20C is 68F. It's the same idea as to decimal places. Everyone calls Pi 3.14, but if you used it that way in calculations they would be inaccurate! In a hospital 98.6F would be 37C, while someone with a low grade fever of say 98.9F it would have to be expressed as 37.16666666666667C to be accurate. Could you imagine the problems that would cause? It's bad enough the stupid medical community has Hypoglycemic and Hyperglycemic! That one almost killed me years ago. I am not a diabetic! They misread the chart and tried to give me Insulin, in spite of my protests. My doctor walked into me fighting 6 people who were trying to hold me down so the Nurse could give me my Insulin, that I don't take! Celsius scale of 0C to 100C is just too narrow for things like weather, cooking or medical. People would be screwing them up, left and right because of the extra decimal places needed for accuracy!
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17. June 2009 @ 15:45 |
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Seriously Russ, it's just measured as 36.9C and 37.2C is a low fever. I'm near-certain that's how it's measured in this country's medical industry and it doesn't cause any problem. The whole point of the decimal system is that it is simpler to enhance the accuracy, just raise or lower by an order of magnitude.
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17. June 2009 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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Surely Kelvin's the easiest measure for lower temperatures? Liquid nitrogen is what, -196ºC or -321ºF? I prefer 77ºK... :)
Absolutely however I suspect Russ is going to have to lower things with liquid nitrogen and then switch over to liquid helium.
Sophocles,
No! That would make me sound like Mickey Mouse! LOL!!
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17. June 2009 @ 15:58 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Shaff: it never is, because that's the multiplication side. Surely you know you can't get recurring decimals from multiplication?
Russ: What about 0.5? Realistically, I've never met anyone who's so focused on the weather that the difference between 23ºC and 24ºC is too great to them. Scientists and Meteorologists and perhaps ship captains maybe, but they're professional enough not to be scared off by something like 23.3ºC, it's hardly difficult to understand.
Sam,
It's not a problem in the scientific world, but in the real world people would not understand all the decimal places needed for accuracy, and it increases the chances of someone writing it wrong on a medical chart, and maybe killing someone. Fahrenheit is not going to go away anytime in the next century!
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17. June 2009 @ 16:00 |
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Not in the US maybe, in the UK we use pretty much exclusively Celsius these days.
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17. June 2009 @ 20:14 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Not in the US maybe, in the UK we use pretty much exclusively Celsius these days.
I guess it doesn't get as cold or as hot then, because there's a lot of places in the US that get very cold and places that get very hot. Here's the records!
Record low Prospect creek, Alaska
-61.611111111111114C
-78.9F
Record high Death Valley, California
56.66666666666667C
134F
Even In the lower 48, in the northern part of the country there's a swing in temperatures of over 150F between the coldest and the hottest temperatures! Celsius would be very confusing to people here, and not as accurate as Fahrenheit without the decimal palces!
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17. June 2009 @ 20:16 |
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Seriously Russ, get it together. Surely you can see that the margin of error is higher with Fahrenheit than Celsius with a single decimal place.
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17. June 2009 @ 20:59 |
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CAN WE DROP IT?!
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17. June 2009 @ 21:00 |
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Nah, where's the fun in that?
Seriously though. Celsius = logical. Fahrenheit = Archaic. All there is to it.
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17. June 2009 @ 21:36 |
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DROP IT!!!
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17. June 2009 @ 21:44 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
DROP IT!!!
much love :D
so DDP did you know that inches are worse than centimeters?
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17. June 2009 @ 21:52 |
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i use both metric & imperial measurements in what i do plus fahrenheit and celsius. as we are way off topic, we'll leave that to the correct forum which this is not.
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17. June 2009 @ 22:59 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
DROP IT!!!
Thank god, someone came to the rescue with these idiots.
Many thanks, ddp.
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17. June 2009 @ 23:02 |
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woaw sytyguy, why the personal hit?
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