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20. July 2009 @ 13:27 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: it is for AMDs - there's a 3.33x with Intels as well, but clearly, in most systems that's a hell of a lot faster than 667mhz (the exception of course being the E5 series which also uses 200FSB)
since there's no reason to raise the FSB with most AMD CPUs, it makes perfect sense for the multipliers to be laid out for the exact speeds you find memory in. Raising the multiplier has a knock-on effect with the FSB as well at some stage - experimenting with what speed the memory ends up running at would probably tell you what that relationship is.
Sam,
LOL!! I've made a mental note not to buy any CPU that isn't a Black Edition. I wouldn't want to even think of the fun it would be with a fixed multiplier trying to OC on of these puppies! LOL!! For stock, you don't need it, but for overclocking it's mandatory!
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20. July 2009 @ 19:39 |
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WELL once i get my hands on some 1066 mem should i change the mem strapping to 400 and get the max out of it or leave it at 333???
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20. July 2009 @ 19:50 |
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always leave the strapping at 400FSB as that's closest to the FSB you're using - you will have to keep the memory multiplier the same too as the next one up from 2.00D is 2.66D, which will make your RAM 1066mhz at 400FSB - unlike PC6400, PC8500 does not overclock at all well.
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20. July 2009 @ 20:26 |
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isnt that why you go up to 1066 cause you wont need to OC it much if any at all? i could push my ddr2 800 now and try to run them at 900mhz but i dont think they will. if i had 1066 mem i would actually be underclocking them to run at 3.83ghz 451x8.5=3833mhz. hence putting hte mem at 902mhz
3.83ghz is where i want it at. wouldnt mind trying 4.0+ but dont have the desire like i did with the E8400...lol i just want the HEMI
would love to have it running at 502mhz 4.26ghz that would be a true HEMI.....you mopar guys know what im talking about..lmao
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20. July 2009 @ 20:28 |
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That is indeed the point, with a 2.00 multiplier, PC8500 memory allows up to an FSB of 533 - ample as the maximum safe FSB for intel CPUs is about 505.
450x8.5 = 3825 is where I had my CPU, but the voltages required for it are pretty steep with dual graphics and the weaker X48 chipset. P45 shouldn't be too hard, 1.3V on the NB and CPU should get you there.
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redice
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20. July 2009 @ 20:32 |
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sam
my memory strap is at 2.66D which places my memory at 1133. Is this to high and if so should i lower it? if so to what? my Q9550 is at 3.6 and everything runs fine. the memory i have are the CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1066.
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20. July 2009 @ 20:32 |
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502x8.5 is where my utlimate goal would be..lol
but iwill be totally happy with 451x8.5
think i will look into some 2x2gb dominators or gskill for this gigabyte board.
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20. July 2009 @ 20:34 |
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If your memory can handle that speed, that's great, but that's not common and it is on the edge of instability.
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20. July 2009 @ 20:35 |
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Originally posted by redice: sam
my memory strap is at 2.66D which places my memory at 1133. Is this to high and if so should i lower it? if so to what? my Q9550 is at 3.6 and everything runs fine. the memory i have are the CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1066.
nop ge tthe most out of your ram, hell OC it more :)
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redice
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20. July 2009 @ 20:36 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: If your memory can handle that speed, that's great, but that's not common and it is on the edge of instability.
well what should i lower it to because i don't want to push it to far.
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20. July 2009 @ 20:36 |
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to what end?
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redice
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20. July 2009 @ 20:38 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
nop ge tthe most out of your ram, hell OC it more :)
i am not trying to kill my Q9550 or the anything else for that matter so i am fine at 3.6.
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20. July 2009 @ 20:39 |
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you won't damage your CPU by the RAM being too fast. If you've no issues there then leave it, but if you push higher you should cut your multiplier back to 2.0
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redice
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20. July 2009 @ 20:45 |
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ok thanks sam but is not the point to try and keep the memory as close to stock speed as you can?
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20. July 2009 @ 20:47 |
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Nope, it's not to exceed the stock speed by very much. Memory speed isn't vastly important to performance.
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20. July 2009 @ 21:02 |
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Red Ice your mem is at 1133 and your cpu is only at 3.6???? my Q9550 is at 3.7ghz and my mem is only at 872
that would mean your freq is at 566 hell at 566x8.5 that would put ya almost 5.0ghz(4.81) maybe im missing something here??
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20. July 2009 @ 21:03 |
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ok thanks sam
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20. July 2009 @ 22:32 |
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the CPU wont make 5GHz, not unless its under DICE or LN2
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20. July 2009 @ 22:49 |
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Originally posted by redice: sam
my memory strap is at 2.66D which places my memory at 1133. Is this to high and if so should i lower it? if so to what? my Q9550 is at 3.6 and everything runs fine. the memory i have are the CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 1066.
I think the Dominators will run at 1133MHz. I know mine will! I have the 2x2GB/1066MHz ones. If it runs and passes Orthos or some other program like that, then leave it be! If it doesn't, try loosening the memory timings to 6-6-6-24. It sounds like to me that it's running OK at 1133, and if that's the case, smile and leave it alone!
Best Regards,
Russ
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redice
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20. July 2009 @ 22:58 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I think the Dominators will run at 1133MHz. I know mine will! I have the 2x2GB/1066MHz ones. If it runs and passes Orthos or some other program like that, then leave it be! If it doesn't, try loosening the memory timings to 6-6-6-24. It sounds like to me that it's running OK at 1133, and if that's the case, smile and leave it alone!
Best Regards,
Russ
yeah i am going to leave it be because its running fine now and it passed the IntelBurnTest on the level 1 with 5 passes. however, if anything happens i will give the memory timings a try.
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20. July 2009 @ 23:35 |
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redice,
Quote: yeah i am going to leave it be because its running fine now and it passed the IntelBurnTest on the level 1 with 5 passes. however, if anything happens i will give the memory timings a try.
If it passed Linpack at 5 passes, #1 you should be good to go! I don't think you will have any problems with it. If you should have to play with the memory timings, just set the CAS to 1 higher and try it. If your motherboard has support for EPP memory, enable it! It will do a better job than you can do manually. I know mine does!
Russ
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20. July 2009 @ 23:46 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob: Red Ice your mem is at 1133 and your cpu is only at 3.6???? my Q9550 is at 3.7ghz and my mem is only at 872
that would mean your freq is at 566 hell at 566x8.5 that would put ya almost 5.0ghz(4.81) maybe im missing something here??
Rob,
Must be your day! LOL!! I think your math is faulty! Without even asking I know his FSB is at 425. At the 2.66 memory multi, it should be at 1133MHz. 425x2.66 is 1133! The CPU is 425x8,5 for 3.6GHz at least when I went to school! LOL!! It's front side buss times the memory multiplier for memory speed unless my calculator is broken! :)
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21. July 2009 @ 02:33 |
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Done out of Here!
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21. July 2009 @ 06:46 |
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Linpack isn't really an especially good stability test, more often than not if my PC passes Linpack it still isn't stable. It's just an 'on the way' to stability test.
Rob: Redice is using the 2.66 multiplier - for 1133mhz memory he's only at 3.62Ghz.
Will: Nice work, those are about the same settings as I use for 3.65Ghz, but seeing as I'm using X48 there is no PLL adjustment. I have not experimented with GTLs yet.
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21. July 2009 @ 08:19 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: Rob: Redice is using the 2.66 multiplier - for 1133mhz memory he's only at 3.62Ghz.
ok i see i was nt thinking of the 2.66multi. i just divided the 1133 and came up with 533 then used that 533x8.5 was looking at it in the 1:1(2.0) ratio..my bad.. looking stupid again.
ok i tried to take it up again. went to 3.83ghz, this mem just wont run at 902mhz. so im back at 3.7ghz. thats where it stays until i get my mobo and 1066 mem.
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