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29. January 2011 @ 23:58 |
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I'm not asking from a gaming aspect. I am shopping with full intent to rendor in Adobe Premiere Pro CS5, After Effects, Adobe Audition and of the rest of the CS5 suite. I didn't budget in more then $275 this time around. So the GTX580 or even GTX570 were not really in the budget to start. I would concider 2 GTX460's since I can do a 2nd one later in a few months as cost comes down w/ rebates or a single GTX560. I Never really tested my old SLI for editing in Premiere Pro. does SLI really add any benifits to video editing and real time playback? I want to stay under $260 so I have room for other upgrades. I am changing to Intel SSD 128 drives soon in RAID 0 as I did it in a notebook and it added a very nice performance boost in CS5.
Let's say I did do "2" GTX460's (seperately) and spent about $300.00 after rebates. It's still less then a single 570, but will it outperform it in much and if so, in what areas?
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30. January 2011 @ 00:15 |
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All I can say is I believe you can use two cards concurrently for CUDA without needing SLI, depending on if the program will recognise them.
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30. January 2011 @ 00:54 |
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Who's overclocking a i7 920 or 930? These are great overclockers for the price. I got 4.3+GHz on the 930 & 4.2+GHz on my 920 both on air. Although the 930 is on water for regular quiet use.
I tried to OC my 930, but it's stuck at 3.8Ghz (on water) unless I don't mind really high load temps.
I can hardly afford the electricity to run the sucker anymore too, it's really sad lol.
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30. January 2011 @ 15:59 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Who's overclocking a i7 920 or 930? These are great overclockers for the price. I got 4.3+GHz on the 930 & 4.2+GHz on my 920 both on air. Although the 930 is on water for regular quiet use.
I tried to OC my 930, but it's stuck at 3.8Ghz (on water) unless I don't mind really high load temps.
I can hardly afford the electricity to run the sucker anymore too, it's really sad lol.
wow! Really? What batch or Rev? Cause I had 2 and each hit 4G out of the box before doing much to the mobo. I'll check my old notes on vcore but if I remember correct, it didnt need much above auto. It uses now 1.33v to keep 4.3G stable, and another at respectful 4.2 is like 1.31v I do know some were needing 1.35+ but it would also depend on your RAM divider and speed since it is all tied into and loaded on the CPU now. DDR1700+ takes a toll of vcore and QPI on these Xore i7's They will need juice. I find mine do fine at DDR-1650~1700 with tighter timings but higher CPU clock for media encoding.
The mobo BIOS options may limit some stable overclock as we know by now. What mobo and BIOS do you use?
As well, the stock coolers barely help at stock with turbo on. I'd use better cooling. Mine started out on a copper ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme with dual fans but I migrated to the Noctua NH-U 12 . Last year I posted a nicely priced tower cooler that really gave the ThermalRight a run for its money at just under $40. We're talking 1~3C differances on my 4.3GHz 930 at the time so not bad. I'll find that model and share again because it truely is a great cooler for the money spent. Can be used in dual puch/pull fan config just like the Noctua or ThermalRight.
I went ahead with a set of GTX460's for the great price with rebate ($300.00 for 2 after rebate from the Egg). I did see Premiere CS5 doesnt utilize SLI but it can share cores for multi monitor and not sure about multi GPU for rendoring yet. I think not, or at least not in CS4 when I did with dual 9500GTX+'s
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30. January 2011 @ 18:01 |
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I don't remember my batch, but it's a D0. rev. If I wasn't so conservative on my load temps I'm pretty sure I could get to 4+ pretty easy unless my MB (UD3R) causes problems. There's been a few stability issues on this setup a few times in the past which leave me inclined to leave it where it is for now until I have a decent amount of spare time to dedicate to it.
For now I'm must bidding my time praying for a low power, affordable 8c/16t beast to come along (we can all dream eh?).
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30. January 2011 @ 18:11 |
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Then your water setup isn't working. Define 'temperature problems' because the amount of heat an i7 920 puts out at 4.5Ghz is no match for even a simple watercooling setup.
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30. January 2011 @ 21:40 |
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Could be true, I've always wondered if I mounted the WB properly (all other aspects of my setup are fine). Technically your are right sam, a WC i7 920 can hit 4.5Ghz pretty easy granted you don't mind the max temp reaching the 80C area (could be lower if you have a good OCer), however I'm weird and like to keep my cpu's max operating temperature below 70C. As it is right now during winter I'm below 60C for the most part and peak at 66C in the summer. I'd love to always have it below or at least not exceed low 60s but keeping a fully loaded OC i7 920/930 below 60C in room with high ambient temperature is probably impossible without chilled water or better.
btw my vcore right now is around 1.33-1.35v, so imo I have a rather poor OCing 930. It's plenty fast for everything I do though since I don't have any high res monitors to game on.
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30. January 2011 @ 21:41 |
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You shouldn't even be seeing 50C with water.
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30. January 2011 @ 22:43 |
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Did I mention I don't live in a fridge?
I haven't seen any WC setups with temps that good, what are you basing that off?
edit: well there was that one guy in Alaska with his rad in the open window....
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30. January 2011 @ 22:43 |
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You shouldn't even be seeing 50C with water.
Key word is "shouldn't" Sam :P I've seen 920s run in the low 80s under water. They just run that hot. I know that seems like a very wide blanket phrase but it most certainly is true. Never seen more people with heat issues than with the i7. It is one of the hottest running CPUs I have ever seen.
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30. January 2011 @ 22:52 |
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My mate jon had his 940 [an early batch preceding the 920 D0] at 4Ghz on air at 75C. 80 on water just doesn't happen unless you're using an outrageous voltage.
Just to give you an example, the people I know with watercooling, i7s included, all get less than 40C full load on their CPUs, including the overclocked ones.
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30. January 2011 @ 22:54 |
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My watercooled 965 never goes over 50. But you're speaking of intels :S I like to see temps under 50. But seeing 60 wouldn't bother me too much.
80C! Now THAT'S a furnace LOL!
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30. January 2011 @ 23:06 |
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With my push/pull setup my water cooled 955 does just under 55C IBT load. Sits about 50-ish after several hours of gaming. Also consider my room is fairly warm this winter so I'm also idling at about 35C. With any sort of cold airflow or if I close my heating vent I can idle at about 25 and load in the mid 40s. But I choose being warm for now over having a cold computer ;P
Also consider if I shut off the heat vent, this PC can heat it back up under load in ~20 minutes. My Q6600 has spent most of it's life folding for Team 32(overclockers forum folding team) so that quickly adds to the heat too. When we have big points drives, I'll run both machines on CPU/GPU folding all weekend. So at this point my temps on both machines stay rather warm idle or not.
For the record my 8800GTS does not get used for folding, support for it or not. I simply don't trust it not to die under that kind of load.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:07 |
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I'll stress these are real watercooled systems, not the basic integrated systems like the coolIT Eco and the Corsair H50. Those are better than air coolers, but not by that much.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:12 |
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We understand this. But I'll also point out that I have seen a LOT of the 920 specifically with major heat issues. A lot of them just run hot. It's how the chip is.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:14 |
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They run hot, overclocked and/or with the stock cooler. Remember these are 130W chips that hyperthread.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:15 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I'll stress these are real watercooled systems, not the basic integrated systems like the coolIT Eco and the Corsair H50. Those are better than air coolers, but not by that much.
Yah, I can't wait to play with a real water configuration. I've seen some nice ones on newegg. Money of course is an issue. Just had to shell out quite a bit for my new rig/car too :(
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30. January 2011 @ 23:21 |
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I'm more interested in what can be done with my room ventilation. I have no opening window, being in a basement, but we're putting one in this spring. Being able to air the room out better will certainly help my temps. It does get a bit stuffy in here.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:25 |
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Air conditioning my tiny room at home drops the ambient by about 15-16 celsius in the peak of the day, yet has about a 25C impact on my CPU temps. If your room is hot, your PC is hotter.
Is only a 9000 BTU portable unit, managed to get it for £130, which is a good deal here.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:26 |
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According to my ambient digital thermometer, I average between 72 - 75F most the time. If I run my secondary rig, it averages closer to 78-79F. It's the 940 phenom. Darn that furnace LOL! When it's low in here I average 28 - 30C idle :D Which of course is meaningless. Load temps are where my main concern is. But I don't run high load applications on this machine. Not yet anyway. One day(probably soon), I'll be running BD rebuilder with this processor. Then we'll see just how far I can take this baby. I plan on getting either bulldozer this year, or just a 6 core phenom. I may wait to do the bulldozer rig til next tax return time. I just don't have the funds this year. And my household is getting very stressed. May be moving out in a few months or less. Finally!
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30. January 2011 @ 23:28 |
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The normal household temperature back home is around 70F. Without the door being open, just the window, the temperature will eventually reach about 90F in winter, and 100F in the summer. Keeping the room at 70 with the A/C is handy.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:31 |
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Yeah I know how that goes Omega. Had to sell half my 8800GTX/E6600 rig to help cover bills a few years ago. Be glad you can hang onto that secondary rig. I had three running for a while, but sold the lowest-end one, with a 7750BE @ 3.2GHz, Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3HP(really nice budget board) and a 9800GTX+ AMP!. It gets hard to keep more than one, let alone 3.
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30. January 2011 @ 23:35 |
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Here I sit with the full fleet of four purring away :)
Sort of basking in it really, they don't all need to be running, but it's the first time I've had them all up concurrently, well, ever. Phoenix (so named for its black and red colour scheme, and from being born of the leftovers from my server) is going to become the XP machine that plays those games that simply will not be run in win7 outside a virtual machine, and also for some music editing, assuming the E4300 can keep up with the VSTs I use. If not, I can always overclock it, I have a TRUE for it waiting to be fitted. Going to get myself a cheap MIDI sound card and run my PSR-340 keyboard through it with ASIO. Hopefully, minimal latency, don't really want to have to shell out for a high-end ESI or E-MU card.
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31. January 2011 @ 00:05 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
With my push/pull setup my water cooled 955 does just under 55C IBT load. Sits about 50-ish after several hours of gaming. Also consider my room is fairly warm this winter so I'm also idling at about 35C. With any sort of cold airflow or if I close my heating vent I can idle at about 25 and load in the mid 40s. But I choose being warm for now over having a cold computer ;P
Also consider if I shut off the heat vent, this PC can heat it back up under load in ~20 minutes. My Q6600 has spent most of it's life folding for Team 32(overclockers forum folding team) so that quickly adds to the heat too. When we have big points drives, I'll run both machines on CPU/GPU folding all weekend. So at this point my temps on both machines stay rather warm idle or not.
For the record my 8800GTS does not get used for folding, support for it or not. I simply don't trust it not to die under that kind of load.
Estuansis,
Here's my temps with the CoolIt ECO. Ambient temp 23-24C. CPU 3.8GHz, CPU voltage 1.387. The ambient temp has to get over 27-28C for it to pass 50C under full load. Even then, I've yet to see it higher than 53C. DVDRB/CCE is generally about 43C tops Runs so much better with the different Boot Drive. I'm still debating whether to send the MSI 9500GT back to Newegg, or just live with it..
I just found out that the XFX HD 4670/1GB GDDR3 I have, has 320 Stream Processors. I never knew that. Too used to seeing the nVidias! No wonder AOE II and III look so good! There's a drastic difference between using it and the 9500GT on Oxi! Between that and upping Oxi to 4GB from 2GB of Ram, there's a right good many things happening on the screen at the same time!
Russ
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31. January 2011 @ 00:18 |
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I could definitely run multiple PC's sam. Ultimately, I will one day. Gotta dig myself out of this hole. I'd like to run a Linux pc. I need to broaden my knowledge ;) Perhaps even a Mac. There are certain softwares I'd like to play with that are only available for mac.
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