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19. March 2009 @ 08:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sammorris: yeah I'll probably keep the fan speeds up all the time anyway, aiming to go for 4.0ghz - I found a gigabyte guide that details what you need to tweak to achieve it on a core i7 920 with their x58 board :) I guess noise isn't really a big deal for me, as long as it does the job. However I know you really like things running silent, I've read your specs page lol.

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Yeah I read that guide. Note it was done with the Extreme board. Not that the less powerful boards can't pull it off, but it might be more difficult.



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Might go for the extreme anyway, might as well shell out the extra money just for the sake of it. lol. I was thinking about a HIS 4870x2 ... are they a decent brand? Whats all this fuss I've been hearing about 4870s with high temps?

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HIS are a decent enough brand, but you'd do better with an XFX I suspect.
The fuss about high temps is a fuss over nothing. nVidia cards get just as hot, they just don't let on about it in the probes. The only problem is the cards heat up other components in people's systems (in particular the chipset) which can potentially lead to other problems. If you have a good case though, there's no issue. You might want to consider a new board before an X2 though, the 680is are very poorly made and designed boards, and installing an X2 may well push one over the edge.



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Yeah, not planning on installing it in the current system. Going to buy everything new except a graphics card, use my 8800gtx for a little while longer, to save some more money before I get a 4870x2. Any news on anything upcoming that I might want to wait for?

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The HD4890 (if that's what it gets called) is due in approximately 6 weeks according to rumours. The HD4870X2 came out about a month after the HD4870. If AMD are able to follow suit with a 4890X2, you might be wise to wait for that.



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6 weeks worldwide or 6 weeks US/UK? Because Australia always seems to be behind the times... :( any idea if these "rumours" are true?

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Originally posted by sammorris:
HIS are a decent enough brand, but you'd do better with an XFX I suspect.
The fuss about high temps is a fuss over nothing. nVidia cards get just as hot, they just don't let on about it in the probes. The only problem is the cards heat up other components in people's systems (in particular the chipset) which can potentially lead to other problems. If you have a good case though, there's no issue. You might want to consider a new board before an X2 though, the 680is are very poorly made and designed boards, and installing an X2 may well push one over the edge.
Ya heat is something people need to be more aware of I fired a system with a 6800 AGP card, case had horried air flow.

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6 weeks US / Europe I think.



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Originally posted by rubixcube:
Thanks for the wallpaper bud, looks fantastic! Think I'll keep that one on there for a while.

@ sammorris: yeah, the new build will have an i7 so I will probably go for the coolermaster, but that being said, it is kind of expensive, especially if i want to swap out the fans for blue ones :( I've always loved my TRUE on my current pc, but I think it might be time for me to move on from the fanboy stage... lol.

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I thought you would like that one! LOL!!

Enjoy,
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Originally posted by sammorris:
That was one of the things I noticed. If your graphics card has an external exhaust cooler, turn the side fan to intake. If it exhausts into the case, turn it to exhaust.
Something interesting I have with everest now Russ is that as I leave it open its CPU usage keeps continuously rising until it eventually reaches 25%, or the max of one core. The longer it runs the worse games run as well, eventually becoming so laggy they're completely unplayable. MP3 playback also pops and stutters when it's running after a while. Annoying, as I can only 'snapshot' my temps, not monitor them. All I can assume is that the number of sensors involved in monitoring four GPUs overloads the program...

Just be advised, coolers like that are very dependant on CPU fan speed. Even a 300rpm drop could be enough to bring those temperatures closer together, and due to the layout, a 1600rpm fan on a TRUE will still be quieter.

Sam,
What would have been annoying with the old Freezer 64, is a non-issue with the Freezer 64 Pro. The new fan blade design is so much quieter, even at max rpms. Most of my temperature changes come when the sun hits the front of the house. I need to put some of that heat reflecting film on the front window, as you can feel the heat as soon as the sun starts shining through the window, and with the computer sitting right there, in the middle of it all, the heat coming through the window affects the temps!

I haven't a clue as to why Everest is increasing the CPU usage in one core on yours. What version are you using? I just looked at mine and it's still 1% or less after hours of use. It's funny, Everest 4.60 1.9.5.7 reads perfect on Oman7's DS4H, but doesn't yet fully support my UD4H, which is why some of my temps and voltages are in the wrong place, yet they read correctly on his! Strange!

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19. March 2009 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
5.00.1655.

It stands to reason, a 1600rpm 92mm fan should be quiet, and generally even the old Freezer 64 was relatively good at that speed. The problem came when I wanted to be able to use speedfan so had to disable, at the time, Asus' naff QFan, which meant 100% until I got into windows. That was managable at 2400rpm, but when max speed rose to 2700, it was painful.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
5.00.1655.

It stands to reason, a 1600rpm 92mm fan should be quiet, and generally even the old Freezer 64 was relatively good at that speed. The problem came when I wanted to be able to use speedfan so had to disable, at the time, Asus' naff QFan, which meant 100% until I got into windows. That was managable at 2400rpm, but when max speed rose to 2700, it was painful.

Sam,
Try a Silverstone FM83 80mm Case Fan at max 3600 RPM. That'll put a wrinkle in your eardrums! LOL!! The noise would be intolerable! Thank God for the controller, and the fact that I only need 1450 RPM to cool the best!

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6 weeks US / Europe I think.
Any idea on price? Thanks for all your help by the way fellas, made some choices a bit easier for me.

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approximately 260 euros, or around $300.



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Hey guys!!!
Long time no hear.Off topic.............
Merry xmas!!Everyone!
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Goodness me, very long time no see Crowy! How do?



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Hello,

I got a question for you guys...
Which CPU cooler is better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0-095-_-Product

OR the stock cooler from a Q6700?

I have that cooler in the link in my P4 box right now and I got a new E6300 Pentium Dual Core 2.8GHz Wolfdale to replace it. Now my question is, which cooler should I use on the Wolfdale? The Wolfdale overclocks to 4.00GHz with the Q6700 stock cooler...will I get a better overclock with that huge Mass Cool CPU cooler? I already have it (got it FAR) but if it isn't gonna help anything, then I don't wanna go through the effort of installing it. I know...I am lazy.

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19. December 2009 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Masscool is better, even though it isn't worth half the $40 asking price.



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So you think I will get a better overclock with it?
Btw, it was FAR as I stated in my previous post.

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Originally posted by im1992:
Hello,

I got a question for you guys...
Which CPU cooler is better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0-095-_-Product

OR the stock cooler from a Q6700?

I have that cooler in the link in my P4 box right now and I got a new E6300 Pentium Dual Core 2.8GHz Wolfdale to replace it. Now my question is, which cooler should I use on the Wolfdale? The Wolfdale overclocks to 4.00GHz with the Q6700 stock cooler...will I get a better overclock with that huge Mass Cool CPU cooler? I already have it (got it FAR) but if it isn't gonna help anything, then I don't wanna go through the effort of installing it. I know...I am lazy.

-im1992

im1992,
Why would you want to OC past 4.0 anyway. If you were to gain .2GHz, the difference in performance between 4.0 and 4.2 is minimal. AS Sophocles said, you reach a point of diminishing returns at the higher end of any overclock. CPU errors start coming into play. The CPU will correct errors, but not all of them can be corrected with a very high overclock. We've seen a number of people on AD that started out at 4.1-4.2GHz, and sooner or later they've had to lower it to 3.9GHz or so. I know it can give problems with DVDRB/CCE and Folding. You can stress test it for hours with no problems, but certain programs just won't work properly. Rebuilder will just stop working in the middle of an encode, and Folding won't complete the Work Units that are caused by CPU errors.

I was just talking to Will, and his Q9550 is running at 3.93GHz. My Amd 630 quad is running at 3.510GHz. His 2 pass encodes are a couple of minutes faster than mine. My CPU is $137 cheaper, and I don't think the price difference is worth the extra couple of minutes I'd gain. I don't do much gaming so I can't justify the price difference!

Happy Holidays,
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Okay, I won't overclock higher.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

I was just talking to Will, and his Q9550 is running at 3.93GHz. My Amd 630 quad is running at 3.510GHz. His 2 pass encodes are a couple of minutes faster than mine. My CPU is $137 cheaper, and I don't think the price difference is worth the extra couple of minutes I'd gain. I don't do much gaming so I can't justify the price difference!

That's actually because the first pass of video encodes using certain codecs are considerably in AMD's favour. It doesn't necessarily reflect that Will's CPU is being slowed by CPU errors. However, I wouldn't discount the possibility given the incredibly low voltage he's used to get to that speed.



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I am thinking of going ATI instead of Nvidia. :o
Now I know that EVGA and BFG provide lifetime warranties on Nvidia chips. Which company is similar for ATI/AMD?

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Originally posted by im1992:
I am thinking of going ATI instead of Nvidia. :o
Now I know that EVGA and BFG provide lifetime warranties on Nvidia chips. Which company is similar for ATI/AMD?
Sapphire is the best so I hear, XfX makes both video card lines but I dunno how good it is some other ATI card makers are vision tek, power color,HIS but meh I dunno I stayed with ninvida to long ><

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