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New AnyDVD HD release from SlySoft targets BD+

article published on 19 March, 2008

SlySoft has been known in the past years for breaking and then poking fun at layers of protection released on DVDs with the AnyDVD application. It was no surprise that SlySoft would be among the first to offer solutions for Advanced Access Content System (AACS) used on both HD DVD and Blu-ray for normal users with no in-depth knowledge of copy protection. After sort of backing the HD ... [ read the full article ]

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Gnawnivek
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19. March 2008 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So much for hating BD+ i guess...
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windsong
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19. March 2008 @ 14:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dont really care so much for the BluRay flicks..more interested in Blu-Ray hacking on the PS3! I'm starting to suspect that we will never see a true PS3 modchip.

..not that there are really any games worth playing (as compared to the PC and Xbox anyway).
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19. March 2008 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I knew something like this was going to happen. One of the main reasons for the studios backing DRM-Ray over HD DVD was because of the extra "Security" called BD+.

However Slysoft has now at least cracked it, if not totally broken it, open. If they do to BD+ what they did to DVD copy protections BD+ is now, or will soon be, dead.

Encryptions are like viruses, they can mutate to get around better but once the "main" part is discovered all variations are basically useless.

So, unless BD+ has some technique we don't yet know about its now dead.

Even if it can spawn new, totally different "Styles" the underlying frame work should still be there. This means that Slysoft will probably crack these too, sometimes days before the official release of the movie.

So now all we need to see is the prices of burners and media to come down, once those come down and people can play backups of their DRM-Ray movies we may then see it start to overtake DVD as king.

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19. March 2008 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I disagree... Even the article says that BD+ hasn't utilize its potentials yet, so the tug of war continues. As to protection codes mutating into viruses, conceivable, but it's really sloppy (or clever) coding.
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19. March 2008 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BD+ lol.. thats not the problem... wait until BD+ J. its going to be uncrackable... if you do crack it.. ps3 will release an update so they wont play BD+ R. its going to be a whole new psp epidemic. (sony patches / slysoft cracks) back and forth..
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19. March 2008 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just hope the studio's don't start dumping millions (billions?) into the government of Antigua and change the laws.
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19. March 2008 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Slysoft are the best ...few pounds for livetime updates !
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19. March 2008 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i believe the first problem is most blu-ray stand alones wont read BD R isnt it? anway, who cares, they´re still kidding themeselves thinking they´ll rule the world with fisical media, ee though there´s still people that likes it better, my first hand experience is teenagers dont really care, they just want to be able to click and download, even if it takes a day or two to get it, that might be way to much for some of us, but they´ll rule the world preaty soon, and have the economic power to turn the market wherever they like, if you think thats not the case just ask yourself, (if you are over 25) how much do you spend on music every month?, going to the movies? and then how much does a 13 year old spends a month on the same things?
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19. March 2008 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Glad the see Slysoft is making it easier to make backups of our investments, now what I REALLY want to see is an editing program like clonedvd2/recode/shrink to make just the movie itself.
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19. March 2008 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol I haven't spent any money since boxing day :P

As soon as BD+ is in the gutter I'm gonna get a BR burner... Hopefully by then they'll be faster :P
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19. March 2008 @ 17:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lxfactor:
wait until BD+ J. its going to be uncrackable... if you do crack it.. ps3 will release an update so they wont play BD+ R.
Actually BD-J is simply the layer that provides interactivity for the BD movies.

Sony also claimed BD+ would last 10 years, however, its already at least partially destroyed by the one and only SlySoft. So much for its millions (or more) spent to develop the encryption under the thin guise of "anti-piracy".

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19. March 2008 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well you can definitely say that BD+ is better then CSS encryption :P
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19. March 2008 @ 20:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Slysoft was one of the reasons why I never worried about "DRM" with Blu-Ray.

If it is built by man....it can be broken by man.

Good for us...

Now....like someone said...it's time for a PS3 hack.
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20. March 2008 @ 01:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
I knew something like this was going to happen.
That's crap! I have seen you complain about Blu-ray's DRM/BD+ on many a thread. Now you claim to know it all... ?

Also, can I ask why do you quote "Peace" at the end of every post? I might be missing something, but I don't see a message of peace in your posts.

It was people like you and a few others that complained at every opportunity about Blu-ray's DRM, BD+... While it was people like myself and quite a few others that waited peacefully as we knew what the future would bring. Now you want to jump on the band wagon because it has been cracked... Go figure.

Edit: ^ This was too abrupt. Please see my post below which explains my thoughts better! :-)

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

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Originally posted by Ryu77:
That's crap! I have seen you complain about Blu-ray's DRM/BD+ on many a thread. Now you claim to know it all... ?
Yes, I do complain about DRM/BD+ (whatever other name its under this week!) but I never claimed to know it all.

When I say "I knew this was gonna happen" I simply mean (or ment if you want) "Eventually I know it will be cracked, but I don't like the encryption being there in the first place because I am pro-fair-use, therefore I complain".

Originally posted by Ryu77:
Also, why do you quote "Peace" at the end of every post? I might be missing something, but I don't see a message of peace in your posts.
Partially out of habit and partially because I feel like a very peaceful guy. I don't mean to create hostility towards anyone so please don't take my post(s) that way.
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20. March 2008 @ 05:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think all of you little boys that are pissed off because of the fact that blu ray won need to stop crying, let it go and grow up and stop being so silly and always refer to blu ray as DRM-ray because that is really stupid and tiring just like constantly saying that consumers didnt choose the outcome of the format war or what format had those features since day one and all those stupid arguments.
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20. March 2008 @ 05:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
While I do agree it is a bit silly, if AACS hadn't been cracked so early in the game people might be referring to HD DVD as HD DRM or something similar.
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20. March 2008 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pop_Smith, if you did indeed "know" this was going to happen (BD+ being cracked), wouldn't that make all your Blu-ray DRM bashing posts redundant?

No malice intended here, but I do think that the point I am trying to prove is one that is worthwhile for all the Blu-ray supporters that put up with so much garbage from the anti Blu-ray camp on these forums. Not once did I or would I say anything like this about HD-DVD.

At the end of the day it is just an optical disc format to you, I and everyone else here. Now if you had a big stake ($$) in Sony or Toshiba, that would be a different story and partial views could be well accepted and understood.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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20. March 2008 @ 10:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ryu, well said and i share the same sort of frustration as well... People trash talked BD+, i.e. it's evil, it's buggy, it's after your money, blah blah blah. Right now? After some news of BD+ being cracked , all sudden, it goes "i knew this gonna happen" or "haha, so much for the cannot be hacked claim."
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20. March 2008 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I personally don't care about DRM because it will ALWAYS be hacked (Just like WoW can't be hacked right? haha yeah right). Anyways, I was an HD DVD supporter due to the cheaper and more established product. Blu-Ray is STILL trying to catch up to HD DVD's technology which is sad because you would think the superior format would have won the war.
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20. March 2008 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ryu, watch it on the personal attacks for you'll have to deal with me or any other mod. understand!!?
Gnawnivek
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Originally posted by hendrix04:
I personally don't care about DRM because it will ALWAYS be hacked (Just like WoW can't be hacked right? haha yeah right). Anyways, I was an HD DVD supporter due to the cheaper and more established product. Blu-Ray is STILL trying to catch up to HD DVD's technology which is sad because you would think the superior format would have won the war.
Help me understand...

How's HD-DVD is cheaper and more established product? I know HD-DVD players are cheaper than BD players, but software-wise they are the same price. As to more "established" i don't even understand what you mean by it, region coding perhaps? To me, more established means more studio supports, i.e. if HD-DVD have Disney from the start... i hate to throw more money to Disney, but face it, who doesn't buy Disney dvds/bds?

Also, how's HD-DVD superior than BD? Is it b/c HD-DVD run faster than BD or something? I don't get it...
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20. March 2008 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did Cyberlink fix PowerDVD so that we can play blu-rays off the hd? If not, how does AnyDVD HD do us any good? What are you guys using to actually play backed up discs?
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ddp, you are right. My first post to Pop_Smith was a little overkill which is why I followed it up with a more balanced post... Sumimasen!

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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20. March 2008 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First off, I'm very happy and relieved that SlySoft has given us the ability to back-up and/or modify our Blu-rays. I own an Toshiba XA-1 HD-DVD player and an Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray player. I run them both through component video into an Pioneer 58" Elite CRT HD display. Both have stellar images. Unlike the Toshiba, the Sony will allow you to view the video through the components while allowing you to hear the audio through HDMI. A useful arrangement if you've got a pre-HDMI HD monitor. Also, the Sony allows aspect ratio control at any resolution. The Toshiba only allows it on 1080. As to picture quality, the Toshiba is sharper and the Sony has better color(more natural). The Sony plays BD-R, BD-RE and AVCHD discs perfectly. The audio on a Blu-ray that has uncompressed PCM audio is simply that best that could ever be. It's perfect. No joke. Smooth, and easy on the ears with incredible dynamic range. If you've ever tried watching Ratatouille or Cars on Blu-ray, you know why we need the ability to modify a disc. It literally takes 15 minutes to get to the feature. Insanity. Rip it to hard drive. Use a demuxing program and voila, the movie starts instantly. Again, thank you Slysoft for giving us the ability to control how we watch video.
 
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