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SlySoft switching over to the Euro soon, prices going up
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2. January 2008 @ 16:01 |
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@pacman
Let's face it; everything is going up in price. The dollar is hardly worth the paper it's printed on anymore. It's a wonder that DVD Fab is free at all. If I were in charge of DVD Fab (Fengtao Software), there would be some kind of close equivalence to Slysoft's AnyDVD price. Since they seem to be the only two programs that work in cracking the new movies. A dual monopoly exists-if that's possible-one free, the other not. It will be interesting to see who wins this competition; Free Fab or Not free AnyDVD! LMAO. Easy to laugh since I paid for Any and Clone in the much cheaper era.
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PacMan777
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2. January 2008 @ 19:48 |
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Looks like Fengtao and Co. have been giving the consumer a break. I hope they remember when they go to make purchases of retail programs. No one knows what the future holds, but I'd say DVDIdle may do better than slysoft selling more at a lower cost. I got Slysoft way back when, but I wouldn't touch it with a stick at today's prices. But as everyone says, "to each his own". As for the worthless US dollar, people not wanting theirs can send all those worthless things my way. PM for an address. LOL
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2. January 2008 @ 21:33 |
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pacy, the postage would cost more than the money's worth! LOL
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3. January 2008 @ 01:09 |
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lets see 20% off anydvd will still make it over 50.00 dollars right guys?
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3. January 2008 @ 17:37 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
TB666
Like I said, DVDCopy 6 loaded up for me and several others I know personally. So far I've not heard any of them complaining. No idea what's happening, but the program should at least install and open before running into functional problems. I'm running a typical XP SP2 system.
I'm running Vista. That's the problem. DVD Copy 6 *doesn't* run well or at all on Windows Vista. I don't entirely blame Corel/Intervideo for this problem as a *lot* of software, some from major companies does not run on Vista. However, Corels' complete lack of support coupled with the interesting fact that DVD Copy version 1 *does* run on Vista reflects badly on Corel.
T.B.
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3. January 2008 @ 19:31 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
lets see 20% off anydvd will still make it over 50.00 dollars right guys?
$49.00 US raised by 40% (or more) and then given 20% off. Yep, that's well over $50 US. LOL
Originally posted by garmoon:
pacy, the postage would cost more than the money's worth! LOL
Don't worry, gather up several pounds of various denominations and I'll send you 100 pesos to cover it. ;)
Originally posted by TB666:
I'm running Vista. That's the problem. DVD Copy 6 *doesn't* run well or at all on Windows Vista. I don't entirely blame Corel/Intervideo for this problem as a *lot* of software, some from major companies does not run on Vista. However, Corels' complete lack of support coupled with the interesting fact that DVD Copy version 1 *does* run on Vista reflects badly on Corel.
Have you tried XP in the Windows Compatibility mode for the program?
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cindyh
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3. January 2008 @ 20:53 |
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Despite all the bad things i am reading, I am GLAD to say I bought the slysoft programs i love BEFORE the price change, and first off you had the bundle discount of about 30 percent, then the christmas discount of an extra 20 percent..
I think the people that wanted it probably got it, and hope everyone found out in time. I think slysoft is great with updating their software and helping people. Everyone has their own opinion though.
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3. January 2008 @ 22:40 |
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As a die hard dvdfabhddecrypter fan as I am, I too went out and got Anydvd before the price increase.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition
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PacMan777
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3. January 2008 @ 23:57 |
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Originally posted by cindyh:
Despite all the bad things i am reading, I am GLAD to say I bought the slysoft programs i love BEFORE the price change, and first off you had the bundle discount of about 30 percent, then the christmas discount of an extra 20 percent..
I think the people that wanted it probably got it, and hope everyone found out in time. I think slysoft is great with updating their software and helping people. Everyone has their own opinion though.
Must be a new romance, if you bought using the Christmas disount. Or did you get your Slysoft back before the pricing started creeping up about as often as each update?
I don't remember anyone saying anything particularly bad about Slysoft's software. It's pretty good programing and they do get the updates within a decent period. I think the only real complaint is an exorbitant price hike. No one should mind a change in the currency of exchange. That's dealt with by exchange rates anyway. I can see a cost increase due to raising costs of doing business. What I don't see is an overnight jump of 40% for any product. As has been pointed out, it is the seller's prerogative to raise the price and the consumer's to pay or not pay the purchase price. Though I only use the software occasionally nowadays, I'm glad I got it back when the prices were reasonable. Since the market is saturated with Slysoft products, I guess they have to get more for each sale now. ;)
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4. January 2008 @ 00:03 |
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@pacman
You hit the nail on the head-Saturation
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dr_ml422
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6. January 2008 @ 21:28 |
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hi guys. being the old soldier that i am,i thought the more you have of a product the lesser the price. if it was the only game in town, then i figure it would cost more. saturation usually ends up w/a price decrease no?
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PacMan777
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6. January 2008 @ 23:41 |
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Looks like you got it wrong this time. Slysoft is jacking the rate sky high.
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7. January 2008 @ 00:06 |
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I wonder if they see the writing on the wall? Do they fear a shutdown of their operations similar to LightningUK and Ripit4me?
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expat83
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7. January 2008 @ 08:58 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Looks like you got it wrong this time. Slysoft is jacking the rate sky high.
It's not that simple. America will get the wake up call of its life when the Arabs start pricing oil in the euro or if the Chinese start dumping the trillions of dollars they have. That may be future shock music but back to the present: any business that has its sales in a steadily declining currency while its development and support costs are largely in euro has to make a hard decision. In 2007 alone, Slysoft's "Sales" declined >25% and there was no end in sight. The decision had to be made and we still offer good price/performance, no renewals, free updates, support even after one year, etc.
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dr_ml422
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7. January 2008 @ 11:01 |
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well it doesn't matter whether they offer support, or anything else 4 that matter. bottom line they jacked it up excessively, and please don't tell me that being the businessmen they are that they didn't know the dollar was nothing compared 2 the euro. that would b total nonsense too even go that route. from the get go they should of had a price that in their best interest would compensate for any overhead related to the difference in value from the dollar 2 the euro. i bet anything that if it was priced higher from the get go some of us would of still bought it, and then complained a lil, but not so much after an increase after that.
as far as china, and the arabs are concerned don't get paranoid w/hypothetical situations concerning any foreign investments here from another country. the first thing they tell u when you go work as a stock broker, or investment banker on wall st. is "it's they're money until they invest, or buy from us. after that it's our money."
all investments are frozen. believe me. now oil is another issue.
back 2 slysoft and the euro. my 2 cents while not in euro i thought are worth a lil something, if anything.
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7. January 2008 @ 14:24 |
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Originally posted by expat83:
any business that has its sales in a steadily declining currency while its development and support costs are largely in euro has to make a hard decision. In 2007 alone, Slysoft's "Sales" declined >25% and there was no end in sight. The decision had to be made and we still offer good price/performance, no renewals, free updates, support even after one year, etc.
so, the easy way would be to switch currency and adjust the price to reflect the change to higher valued currency so that nobody gets a huge kick in the teeth. I've defended the decision (although I think slysoft has cut their own throat) but there is no other way to describe this as anything other than a money grab. Whats next, start charging for renewals or updates if sales still continue to decline? I'd expect the answer to be no, but then again I would never expect a smart business to increse the price of a product 40% and still wonder why they don't succeed. You can't seriously expect an increase in sales. This decision did not benefit a single consumer.. not one worldwide.
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7. January 2008 @ 14:46 |
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7. January 2008 @ 15:29 |
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dr_ml422, res2cue
Well said.
@ expat83
As a businessman, what about international banking and foreign currencies don't you understand? Your raising the price by 40% was the complaint, not which currency you chose to trade in. Your 1:1 switch from the USD to the euro was simply the means by which you accomplished it. You could have just as easily set your price at a 0.9:1 ratio (or less). The price hike was 40 percent in all currencies. 40% is 40% in anybody's money, including the euro.
How would the Arabs trading in euros effect anyone? I suspect the EU is already paying for their oil in euros, the US will continue to use dollars, and the Mexicans will use pesos. It's when they raise the prices that it hurts the wallet. The euro isn't the new gold standard yet. There's rates of exchange. The home currency isn't dollars or euros for the Arabs. You sounded a bit nationalistic; it's an international market depending on currency exchange rates.
Like I said before, I don't blame Slysoft for using a stable currency to trade in. We realize the dollar has gradually shifted lower against the euro. Slysoft could have occasionally raised the price to compensate for inflation or deflation (according to which side of the coin you're looking at). After all, you weren't dealing in just dollars, or was the US your only customer? Rhetorical, I already know the answer (probably one of the largest, but not the only one).
It's about an over the board, all currencies inclusive, 40% price hike. Your Canadian customers won't be happy, nor the Mexicans, Spanish, Norwegians, British, French, or the rest of the EU. No one likes paying an inflated price (overly inflated in my point of view). When you raised the price by 40% that raised the cost by 40% in euros as well. Seems that's the part you appear to be overlooking. Still don't see what the Arabs selling oil to the EU has to do with you guys jacking software prices.
To me it looks like Slysoft has a one trick pony and the market is growing smaller due to past sales and the promise to keep the programs updated for free. Other companies like Ahead change versions occasionally and call it an upgrade instead of update and sell the program over again. Incorporating a system where customers pay an annual subscription fee (first year free with initial sale), makes more sense than laying the burden on the dwindling number of new customers. The AV software companies do it all the time and your's is a similar situation (constantly having to update to stay effective). Early buyers of the Slysoft program got a real deal. I feel sorry for the new customers; they're paying for all the updates since.
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7. January 2008 @ 15:38 |
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@PacMan777
Very well stated and clearly to the point.
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Amir89
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10. January 2008 @ 09:34 |
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It does seem at tad overpriced at $71 but seriously, think how much AnyDVD pays for itself over time by decrypting movies. Most new-release blockbusters are still at the $20-40 dollar mark in most places.
So you copy 2-4 DVDs with it and it's pretty much paid for itself. And let's not forget it does a top-notch job at it too, rips them for you, defeats anything out there, $71 isn't asking that much if you think about it.
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dr_ml422
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10. January 2008 @ 10:08 |
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we could keep looking 4 five paws on a cat w/this. bottom line is it went up drastically, and while i'm sure most of us could probably get it, and even at some point do so, who doesn't like the bang 4 their bucks. that's why dvdfab is still the more reasonable choice.
ie: you have the $$$ 4 2 cars. a benz, or another nice car like a lincoln. or caddy. they're both going 2 take you 2 your destination. 1 is cheaper than the other, and the other 1 better made. but you save big $$$ on the initial buy and in the long run on maintenance and insurance. so the updates w/anydvd would b free maintenance. both cars will b insured 2 get you where you're going.
listen. it's always about the money. we hear it all the time that it's the principle not the $$$. but if there was no $$$ involved than $$$ would never b mentioned.
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10. January 2008 @ 18:06 |
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Originally posted by Amir89:
It does seem at tad overpriced at $71 but seriously, think how much AnyDVD pays for itself over time by decrypting movies. Most new-release blockbusters are still at the $20-40 dollar mark in most places.
So you copy 2-4 DVDs with it and it's pretty much paid for itself. And let's not forget it does a top-notch job at it too, rips them for you, defeats anything out there, $71 isn't asking that much if you think about it.
It's supposed to be about protecting the investment. The only savings should be keeping the kids and dogs from using the original DVD as a chew toy. dr_ml422 put it well when he said it's all about the money and DVDFab is still the best bang for the buck. I wish another company would come out with a good decryption program. Seems the market is so saturated with software that it doesn't appear good economics for a software company to join in the competition. It's also limiting as to location, Big Brother and all.
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dr_ml422
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11. January 2008 @ 11:52 |
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downloaded dvdfab platinum last night. it's a rap. definitely b4 the trial's over it's mine. that 1 click goes a long way. i'm not going 2 abandon my shrink, and imgburn by no means. still both great guns 2 have if things get crazy as it does once in a while. i'm convinced. the verdict is in afaic. never rule out anydvd in the distant future, but 4 now i definitely am in hurry whatsoever.
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