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SlySoft switching over to the Euro soon, prices going up
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23. December 2007 @ 12:26 |
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I can see some of your points, sure sooner or later things will change thats just the inevitable, remember what you said, (They have the right to charge whatever they want, if the consumer isn't willing to pay it, they don't have to...), that is what is kicking these blue ray and hd-dvd's in the ass right now, and will continue doing so for some time to come.
Starting another collection for something that gives you a little better picture quality? nope.
The blockbusters or Hollywood video stores I go to still don't carry anything in those two formats, not in my area anyway, and I'm in the suburan Philly area, most people are just not intersted, and yes techies are, and its what techies say is whats mainly gets published in mags, paper, internet and the tv news media, the minority, but not the regular silent majority, I go by what I see in the trenches and not what media people are telling me whats going on out there or what I should go for.
Yeah the war between the formats might, and I say might lightly might be over next year, but the kind of prices that we the regulars are seeking will not arrive anytime soon being equipment or movies.
Sure I can be easily wrong about the two year thing, but I really don't think so, remember how s-vhs was suppose to change everything, yeah right, same thing with these two formats, the difference is sooner or later they will win out when the prices do drastically change, but no where near in 2 yrs., but than just when those two nitwits that are fighting each other and settle things maybe another new format will arrive, possibly a smaller faster better quality disc maybe the size of a penny lol, all that will come.
Mark my words tough, standard dvd's are gonna hold strong for another 5yrs easy.
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23. December 2007 @ 13:06 |
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I hope you are right, don't think so... but I hope so. Talking about anydvd being able to charge whatever they want and comparing that to HD- Blu-ray is apples and oranges simply because where software is concerned you have free options. Cost isn't huge factor anymore with movies because the price difference of movies is minimal. Some stores are selling new releases on HD is a mere $2 more than conventional dvd. They are doing their best to get the consumer to a point where they will think it is a good deal to get that better quality. One the players become more reasonably priced (which has happened considerably this last 6 months)it's going to open the flood gates.
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24. December 2007 @ 11:12 |
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The interesting proposition is recordable media costs. Currently if you want a backup for your HD or Blu Ray, you simply buy a second copy. That's one way of stopping enthusiasts from backing up their videos. No need for AnyDVD or any of the other programs.
In reflection, the DL recordable didn't do too well in competition with the DVD5 format. Cost still isn't close enough for most users to adopt it. A good Verbatim DL still runs about $2 US (or more). $15 hi def coasters will be an interesting sight. Even if the industry cuts the price in half, recording is going to be an expensive proposition in the newer hd formats.
It's interesting times. The DVDs we're buying are dual layer and we're backing them up on DVD5. Maybe someone will come up with some good software so we can encode hd to DVD9.
I'm not taking any bets either way on which way the video formats are going to swing over the next couple of years. There's an awfully large group of consumers who still own DVD players that won't want to switch technology until the prices become reasonable. The one thing I don't see is the cost of the new hi tech becoming that reasonable over the next couple of years. I hope Sony and the others fool me though. I like the concept of hd, just not the current high prices for hardware and recordable media.
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24. December 2007 @ 13:19 |
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hi pacman. when you say the dl's didn't do that well compared to the dvd 5s, did you mean regular format dl blanks, or the hd blanks if there are any? i wouldn't know about anything hd, blank or otherwise. don't have anything hd whatsoever. if it's regular dl format then you have an even better reason as i do to agree about most of which we've been posting.
if it's hd dl's then it's a mood point also as not too many people have hd, or blu-ray burners anyway. either way the industry is going to tread these waters really slow, as it's going to affect everything from recordable media to the price of a for the road pc, or even mac, w/a hd, or bluray burner. they're already subjecting us to vista w/out any options for xp on new pcs right now. imagine them all of a sudden hiking the price of a standard pc w/a bluray or hd burner together w/full conversion to hd/bluray format. these guys at sony and everywhere else are definitely about money, but they're more about getting it than losing. that's the bottom line. so in the interest of great profit and smart business we'll be ok 4 a while.
i'll just burn everything i could get my hands on that i want and have the stand alone's to watch it until then.
if they keep putting out these horrible flics, we won't be burning too much anyway. lol...
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24. December 2007 @ 14:22 |
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Originally posted by zebadee:
Hi ;-)
$49 currently (as stuff gets rounded up) is 35 euro's.
35 euro's transferred back to dollars (again rounded up) $52.
Now because a large part of commerce trades in euro's. I believe there is a 'fee' for handling other currencies.
Say that was roughly 3%, so $1.5.
Added to the $52 (but of course rounded up) $54.
A price rise of say 10% (again rounded up) would give you $60.
A hike of $11.
In my earlier post (& yes I have only just noticed) I had mean't to type that the above $79 didn't equate, it was more likely even with a modest rise to be $59 not $79.
This is speculation by me. As there has been no figure stated or implied as to how much the cost of Slysoft products is to be.
Work it out for yourselves.
http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html#
Except that on Slysoft's webpage, they state there will be a 40% increase in price. Sounds to me like two things are going on, they are switching over to Euros and increasing their price all at one time.
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24. December 2007 @ 14:52 |
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Originally posted by diverj:
... Sounds to me like two things are going on, they are switching over to Euros and increasing their price all at one time.
By Jove, I think he's got it.
At today's rates the price increase is 44.1 percent.
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I was just commenting on DVD9 and DVD5, that's the two common formats we have now. The DVD9 is dual layer, DL for short. The single layers are noticably cheaper and we have plenty of good software to fit DVD9 sized videos down to DVD5. As for the hd formats, I was simply pointing to cost.
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24. December 2007 @ 15:40 |
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DVD9 didn't do well as far as pricing, burning, etc.. as compared to the DVD5, or just cost wise? really just curious because i never used DL'S.
i was going to suggest that slysoft, or anyone else 4 that matter come up w/software that can convert hd's n blurays 2 regular format, but that wouldn't make too much sense except 4 short term. when conversion kicks in they'll stop producing the regular formats sooner, or later.
hey maybe if just until conversion it wouldn't be such a bad idea. it could b included in an all in 1 package, so when conversion kicks in any1 who purchased it would b ok. then mab i'd consider that jacked up new price. would have to make it so that it would b able to play on regular burner while being converted. that would really b something.
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24. December 2007 @ 17:02 |
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Originally posted by dr_ml422:
@pacman
DVD9 didn't do well as far as pricing, burning, etc.. as compared to the DVD5, or just cost wise? really just curious because i never used DL'S.
i was going to suggest that slysoft, or anyone else 4 that matter come up w/software that can convert hd's n blurays 2 regular format, but that wouldn't make too much sense except 4 short term. when conversion kicks in they'll stop producing the regular formats sooner, or later.
hey maybe if just until conversion it wouldn't be such a bad idea. it could b included in an all in 1 package, so when conversion kicks in any1 who purchased it would b ok. then mab i'd consider that jacked up new price. would have to make it so that it would b able to play on regular burner while being converted. that would really b something.
The situation with the recordable DL is mostly cost. Recording is a bit trickier due to the layer break, but with good software that isn't a problem.
One thing I can say for Slysoft is that they've kept up the support and not charged extra to update AnyDVD. HD being a new feature, I can see charging extra for it. However, DVDFab added new features and didn't raise the cost. They started giving away DVDFab HD Decrypter. As a come on or whatever, it's still free and hopefully will remain so. As for the price hike, I still don't see the higher Slysoft prices when there are good freeware and lower cost retail available. As noted before a problem is that the best freeware is from a retail entity. The horror story happens if the top suppliers of recording software create a monopolistic price scale instead of competing.
I've already got my software. So, I'm only going to worry if/when they start requiring new upgrades we have to pay for. I feel sorry for those who don't know what's available and will end up paying the exorbitant price for the expensive Slysoft programs. To each his own... caveat emptor.
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24. December 2007 @ 21:57 |
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Buy it before it goes up. AnyDVD + CloneDVD is NOW $55.20. That's $69.00 for the 2, minus 20% At Slysoft's Christmas Discount before January 1st.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/purchase.html#products
If you want the Best, you should be able to buy it before the price goes up. Let's see, $55.20 is what? about the same as buying 3 New release DVDs?
No-One can say Slysoft did not give everyone ample time to buy at the lower prices! Besides, I say this: "It is worth every penny I paid for it, and: You only but it once!"
Use The Best Media for The Best Burns! TYs, Verbs,(Made in Taiwan) Sony MIJs (YUDEN000 T02), Sony Made in Taiwan DVD+R 16x, Maxell MIJ, RITEK G05.
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24. December 2007 @ 22:46 |
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Originally posted by bunnyrip:
Buy it before it goes up. AnyDVD + CloneDVD is NOW $55.20. That's $69.00 for the 2, minus 20% At Slysoft's Christmas Discount before January 1st.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/purchase.html#products
If you want the Best, you should be able to buy it before the price goes up. Let's see, $55.20 is what? about the same as buying 3 New release DVDs?
No-One can say Slysoft did not give everyone ample time to buy at the lower prices! Besides, I say this: "It is worth every penny I paid for it, and: You only but it once!"
That doesn't include the $30 US for the HD option. I'm not sure if that's considered an upgrade or not. Upgrades don't get the "Christmas" discount. $49 US for DVDFab Platinum at the current discount. It's been going on for a long time. DVDFab Platinum is an all in one program.
DVDFab HD Decrypter and DVD Shrink or Rebuilder, all for free. I gave jdobbs a donation for the DVD Rebuilder. At the price, RB is more a gift than a retail version of the free RB. With that I use RipIt4Me, DVD Decrypter (alone), and DVDFab HD Decrypter much more than AnyDVD. My point is that you can turn out better movies with freeware than retail. Granted, it does take a little more time, but encoding delivers a better output, especially when compression is an issue. For those who like doing things in a hurry with a low learning curve, and cost isn't a factor, then Slysoft is the trick.
You can't say buy Slysoft while it's cheap, just buy it before the price gets jacked through the roof. ;) That is if you don't like the free options and lower cost programs.
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24. December 2007 @ 23:16 |
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You can't say buy Slysoft while it's cheap,
i guess "Less Expensive" would be the correct term huh lol
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25. December 2007 @ 00:11 |
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For those who like doing things in a hurry with a low learning curve, and cost isn't a factor, then Slysoft is the trick.
That statement is going to step on some toes here. To each His/Her own I say. Whatever you want to use. I don't have a Lot of time to spare, so I like AnyDVD which decrypts on the fly while I encode & burn with CloneDVD2.
Please don't imply that Slysoft Lovers have a low learning curve.
By the way, I also have DVDFab Decrypter too, and use it sometimes. Works very good.
Happy Holidays Everyone!
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25. December 2007 @ 00:12 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
i guess "Less Expensive" would be the correct term huh lol
Uh-huh.
Originally posted by bunnyrip:
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For those who like doing things in a hurry with a low learning curve, and cost isn't a factor, then Slysoft is the trick.
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That statement is going to step on some toes here. To each His/Her own I say. Whatever you want to use. I don't have a Lot of time to spare, so I like AnyDVD which decrypts on the fly while I encode & burn with CloneDVD2.
Please don't imply that Slysoft Lovers have a low learning curve.
By the way, I also have DVDFab Decrypter too, and use it sometimes. Works very good.
Happy Holidays Everyone!
I have no idea why anything would step on anybody's toes. I guess if a person was paranoid, they might think the "low learning curve" was directed toward them. I have the utmost respect for my fellow AD members' intelligence and would never challenge it. I was simply saying the Slysoft software has a low learning curve, it's easy software to use.
It's a given fact that encoders outperform transcoders, especially where higher compression is involved. The free RB with the free Hank's Encoder is free and meets the expectations of its users. It's nothing meant to put down anyone's software, that goes for all transcoders, not just CloneDVD 2. Like I mentioned, encoders take more time. However, for those wanting quality and don't mind spending a little more time getting it, RB and Hank's Encoder are there for free.
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Slysoft software has a low learning curve, it's easy software to use.
true BUT for me the main reason i use it is a time issue. working 50 plus a week i have less time to use the freeware than some people
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25. December 2007 @ 04:37 |
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RB has a batch mode. Most users set up a batch and let the computer do it's thing while they're working, sleeping, or otherwise away from the PC. Users with dual core (or better) systems can multitask, if they are set up with enough system resources. As you can see, the time needed from the user can be minimal when planned.
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25. December 2007 @ 10:47 |
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For someone who does not own the program, want to own the program or even likes the program you sure protest too much. I'm sure no one at SlySoft or anywhere else will ever force you to buy the program(s).
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25. December 2007 @ 13:30 |
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If you are referring to me, you have the wrong take. I own both AnyDVD and CloneDVD2. I got them back when they were still reasonably priced. I just don't use them as much as other software. I've never become completely reliant on any one set of programs to do a backup. I have to say I favor using Rebuilder for encoding and DVDCopy for transcoding. As for decryption, I like a good ripper. DVD Decrypter, RipIt4Me, and DVDFab Decrypter fit the bill as well as AnyDVD's ripper, those 3 are all freeware.
The only thing I'm really protesting is the price gouging soon to go into effect. But as everyone says, Slysoft has the right to rip customers off if they want and if the consumers will go for it. My point with the other posts was to point out there's as good or better software to be had at lower prices and free.
As has been said, each to his own preferences. There's no one right set of programs for doing a backup, though some programs give better results than others. I'd just like to see the new consumers of backup software proceed in an informed manner before buying ridiculously high priced software. If anyone has looked over the situation and wants Slysoft, then now is the time to buy the expensive programing before it goes ballistic.
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26. December 2007 @ 14:20 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Originally posted by bunnyrip:
Buy it before it goes up. AnyDVD + CloneDVD is NOW $55.20. That's $69.00 for the 2, minus 20% At Slysoft's Christmas Discount before January 1st.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/purchase.html#products
If you want the Best, you should be able to buy it before the price goes up. Let's see, $55.20 is what? about the same as buying 3 New release DVDs?
No-One can say Slysoft did not give everyone ample time to buy at the lower prices! Besides, I say this: "It is worth every penny I paid for it, and: You only but it once!"
That doesn't include the $30 US for the HD option. I'm not sure if that's considered an upgrade or not. Upgrades don't get the "Christmas" discount. $49 US for DVDFab Platinum at the current discount. It's been going on for a long time. DVDFab Platinum is an all in one program.
DVDFab HD Decrypter and DVD Shrink or Rebuilder, all for free. I gave jdobbs a donation for the DVD Rebuilder. At the price, RB is more a gift than a retail version of the free RB. With that I use RipIt4Me, DVD Decrypter (alone), and DVDFab HD Decrypter much more than AnyDVD. My point is that you can turn out better movies with freeware than retail. Granted, it does take a little more time, but encoding delivers a better output, especially when compression is an issue. For those who like doing things in a hurry with a low learning curve, and cost isn't a factor, then Slysoft is the trick.
You can't say buy Slysoft while it's cheap, just buy it before the price gets jacked through the roof. ;) That is if you don't like the free options and lower cost programs.
Just two comments:
1. The HD upgrade is $30 and is eligible now for the 20% discount. Just ask for it and send SlySoft support your order number. $6.00 isn't much but who would turn it down?
2. Keep in mind that SlySoft only asks for money ONCE when you buy a license. Ther is NEVER a renewal charge for ANYTHING. Americans have been requesting to cancel their newsletter mails and have even uninstalled their products thinking that SlySoft would ask for money after the Euro implementation.
I work there so you can believe it.
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26. December 2007 @ 14:29 |
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I'll just be glad to see the new year come so this is all finalized and the end can come to this thread. It is purely personal, some feel slysoft is the best out there, others know that the free alternatives can do the job just as well at no cost. All said, I don't think anyone feels the price increase is justified, only future consumers can truly answer that question.
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How many consumers have ever felt that a price increase for a product is justified?
How many employees have ever felt that a wage increase for their work product is justified?
Interesting paradox, I think......
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26. December 2007 @ 16:35 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
All the more reason for them to allow Paypal purchases; that's what's stopping me buying AnyDVD & any other of their products
That should not stop you Creaky, you can use
The Paysafe Card in the UK, they have outlets all over Europe.
http://www.paysafecard.com/uk/
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Cheers Alan, ps i can't add you as an AD buddy as you haven't setup a profile page, doh! :)
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I will do that now creaky, thanks.
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