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20. March 2012 @ 15:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do the same thing as well but try to keep my rants to a minimum and also try not to go on and on about things as well. We are all human and if we are adults we should be able to handle criticism or even insult without a total break down. I could go on but there should be no need.

No problems here for sure, I good debate is normally a good thing.

@Kevin,
I'll dig around and see if there are some options for you but as you already know it is hard to find solutions for that style of case. I wish I had an old Xeon server heat sink laying around as they were monstrous and could be modified possibly for your situation.

Here are two other possibilities, I like the 140mm fan system but I would replace the fan with a PMW to keep noise down but still provide maximum airflow when required. However even with airflow at 94.7CFM, noise is only at 33.5dBA which would be higher than I would want full time but is pretty decent for that volume of air. I didn't see that they listed the fan as variable.

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Thermaltake's fan noise ratings are measured at around 10 metres versus the standard 1m, so they're completely unusable as ratings.



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I like the look of both of those Steve. He'd prefer not spend any money at the moment. We're noticing that the vent above the CPU plugs EASILY! I'm gonna look at removing it, and installing a grill. I lowered the CPU voltage another step, and seems stable. It's currently running at 1.25V @ 2.2Ghz. I stressed the CPU for 6 minutes. The temperature remained below 50C, and the fan never got loud. Of course it can breath now. Once it plugs, airflow will diminish again. The screen on top is the problem...



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http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/120/scbsk2000_index.html

im a sucker for scythe, though i cant attest to anything HTPC related as thats just not my cup'o tea. im pretty sure if this product follows there quality line up you shouldn't see any issue with it.

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20. March 2012 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks DXR88. I'll definitely keep that badboy in mind for future builds!



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20. March 2012 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's nice and cheaper than the lower priced 140mm I supplied but has much less airflow at the same decibel level and both are PWM fans. Either would be good but I'd pay the little extra and get the 140mm if room in his case would support that width/hight of course.

But great pick DXR88!
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20. March 2012 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXR88:
http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/120/scbsk2000_index.html

im a sucker for scythe, though i cant attest to anything HTPC related as thats just not my cup'o tea. im pretty sure if this product follows there quality line up you shouldn't see any issue with it.
Heh, my 'HTPC' is a full tower - only case that fits enough hard disks :P



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20. March 2012 @ 17:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mine too until I get it into my new Shuttle and if I need more HDD space I'll attach a NAS enclosure or something in that vein instead of having a big bulky PC in my entertainment center. My HTA (Home Theater Amplifier) likes network drives anyhow so I don't need massive hard drive space in my HTPC.
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Indeed. Aesthetics are fairly meaningless to me. Of course, one day I'll have an entertainment stand. Depending on its physical characteristics, a new tower may be my only option. But I'm aware of sooo many ways of doing things, that I doubt I would ever have to settle with a typical HTPC configuration. Essentially, the PC could be offsite from the entertainment stand.



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Meanwhile, bitterly disappointed as it seems the first consumer-oriented '4K HD' display is in fact, just a marketing gimmick - a genuine 3840x2160 panel, but with no inputs that will take anything beyond a 1080p signal.

A few years yet then, before 2560x1600 is dethroned as the highest resolution available to the masses.



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20. March 2012 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Which will keep displays like yours fairly expensive :( I really want a 30" display too.



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20. March 2012 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The $1200 asking price for the current 30" displays is peanuts.
The Toshiba 55ZL2 in question is $9000 which would have been about right under the circumstances.
In lack of the ability of that to display proper 3840x2160 images though, the only currently available device to do it is the Eizo FHD3601, which is $35,000.



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20. March 2012 @ 21:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Meanwhile, bitterly disappointed as it seems the first consumer-oriented '4K HD' display is in fact, just a marketing gimmick - a genuine 3840x2160 panel, but with no inputs that will take anything beyond a 1080p signal.

A few years yet then, before 2560x1600 is dethroned as the highest resolution available to the masses.
No surprise there and I sure would like to have your's too.
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Have also wanted a 30" display really bad but I can't justify it unless the rest of my system matches the performance requirements. Currently 1920 x 1200 is a good medium because it forces me to keep my hardware relatively up to date while allowing me to "buy ahead" and create a good buffer between upgrades. Also allows me to bump over to 1080p seamlessly with little to no performance difference. I think the extra 120 vertical pixels have only made a difference when it's a memory limit.



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My DVI KVMA is the only limiting device in my main systems otherwise no problems upgrading to higher resolutions. My next step will be a 27" most probably but it would be nice to have Sam's 30". I'm not aware of any digital KVM's that can handle that resolution even business ones.
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My KVM is not an issue as I have more than one monitor, and my secondary system is passively used so rarely needs more than one.



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Perhaps if more people said no to their asking price, they'd drop it! :p While I would pay top dollar for a 30", I would love to see the price drop ;)



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21. March 2012 @ 00:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really most KVM's I've seen can not handle that high of resolution, they ALL are limited and I've worked with most out there especially business switches. So like I said I'm not aware of even a business KVM that can handle that although I haven't KVM searched for a year or so.

@Kevin,
They would lose money as it is very expensive to make a flat panel of that density & size that will be close to perfect, not many pixel issues. Maybe down the road that will change, most probably but it always takes time with new technology.

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Not saying mine can handle the resolution, I'm saying more than one monitor allows me to plug a 2560 x 1600 monitor directly into the DVI and the KVM into a smaller monitor. Multi monitor is dead useful, takes up so much space though.



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Not saying mine can handle the resolution, I'm saying more than one monitor allows me to plug a 2560 x 1600 monitor directly into the DVI and the KVM into a smaller monitor. Multi monitor is dead useful, takes up so much space though.
That makes sense, I guess I wasn't following you...
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Yes, multi monitor definitely consumes some space. I only have a 17" secondary. But it does get in the way LOL! It comes in quite handy for the Photoshop toolbar(and layers pallet, history window, etc)! Fact of the matter is, it's small(but not too small) form factor and resolution is perfect :D



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That makes sense, I guess I wasn't following you...
No worries. My only regret is the lack of HDMI audio which would be fantastic for using my TV. It's rather dated.



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
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That makes sense, I guess I wasn't following you...
No worries. My only regret is the lack of HDMI audio which would be fantastic for using my TV. It's rather dated.
That's actually what I'm going to do for mom now that I have her setup with a dual monitor arm, her ViewSonic 20" is ready to retire so I'll either get another ASUS which has HDMI & speakers, won't need a 3.5mm TRS cable no more or I'll get a flat panel TV so that she can just use the DirecTV remote for both and doesn't have to screw around.

@Kevin,
It's not bad with a dual monitor arm it really frees up desk space and you can always move the monitors out of the way if you need too.

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I can still do HDMI audio to my TV directly with the video card but for some reason the KVM simply doesn't support it.



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I can still do HDMI audio to my TV directly with the video card but for some reason the KVM simply doesn't support it.
So you have a HDMI KVM? I thought I had a rare beast with a DVI-I KVM, I wasn't aware that there were HDMI KVM's now. Where did you get your KVM and who makes it? Does it have at least 4 ports?

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