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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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5. September 2013 @ 03:41 |
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Indeed I may risk it. If Steamroller is not compatible with AM3+, It should not discourage me much. For the 1090t is a very capable CPU. It's already impressed me with X264 encoding. And a 990X board may give me at the very least, a 10% increase in performance(just a wild guess). And steamroller will very likely succeed both bulldozer and Piledriver(naturally). So whatever it's performance increase, I'll be interested when the time comes. The penny saving begins now ;) Ha ha! And who knows, perhaps I can build a mirror/intel tower at the same time? An intriguing prospect!
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5. September 2013 @ 04:25 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by skydreamer:
Thank you very much for your help guys, it was extremely appreciated.
In a few days I'll be able to finally buy the parts, at least I hope so haha.
And in case I'll screw up I'll come here for help again :P
Our pleasure and it was nice of Sam to get you started with a good source to buy from.
Post to us exactly what you purchased with links if possible, should you have issues during build or post build.
When you put your CPU/Heat-sink and Memory sticks onto the motherboard make sure that you do so with the board mounted securely in the case or better yet on a flat ESD safe table e.i., like a kitchen table with a pad or the ESD bag that comes with the MB. With these items you will need to be careful since they are static sensitive so if the motherboard comes with a foam pad use it to sit the MB on while populating it. Try not to build on a carpet floor and before handling the MB/RAM/CPU discharge yourself by grounding yourself to the computer case first, then populate the MB. The issue here is you don't want to flex the board as the internal layers could get damaged and then you'll have real problems.
CPU Insertion
Also CPU's and their sockets have a keying system so make sure that the CPU is placed with the corner marks the same, you have 4 possible combinations that only 1 position will be correct. Don't force the CPU as you may bend pins and they are difficult to straighten if you do.
Do not over grease the CPU before attaching the heat-sink to it. Normally only a dime size amount of grease is needed to the center of the CPU. It shouldn't be a mountain of grease either.
RAM [memory stick(s)] Install
If you are putting one or two sticks in make sure to install them in the last 1 or 2 banks, slots 3 & 4 of the mother board or slots 2 & 4 if the boards bank set two for some board.
If you have questions during the build feel free to ask about anything you might have question(s) on. Since we spread the globe here someone should be able to answer relatively quick should you need help.
Good luck and may the force be with you, :D
Stevo
A fairly important addendum to this - the builds discussed come with a stock CPU cooler, to which cooling material is already applied. With these, simply placing the cooler onto the CPU is sufficient - no additional paste needs to be added.
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7. September 2013 @ 16:46 |
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Either this week or next I'm going to upgrade my DLink DIR-655 router to the Asus RT-AC66U 1.75Gb WiFi Router. I've looked at and considered TPLink & Netgears versions but the ASUS stands out from them with exception to USB3 which the Netgear has. I'm hoping I can clone the MAC of one or all 6 Guest connections you can setup. That way I can StreetPass/SpotPass my 3DS with others around the world. My DIR-655 won't allow WLan's MAC to change, only the WAN, so even though I can make a Nintendo Zone I won't pass others unless they drive by my house.
I may have to use my Media Server as a Nintendo Zone if the new router isn't capable of cloning the WiFi MAC(s).
I'm also going to make a Mac/Intel clone for my sister as she would like a Apple PC for her new work and I don't want to waste money on buying a true Apple.
Those are my next upgrades with exception to possibly another Crown XLS 2500 amplifier,
Stevo
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7. September 2013 @ 16:48 |
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I have to say actually, the Apple Airport router I was given to try out has been pretty damn good. The 'just works' mentality of Apple products is really quite welcome in the consumer networking industry where almost everything you can buy is terrible :P
It is mindblowingly infuriating that any setting change no matter how minor requires a reboot, but being able to remotely administer it by default with no PCs on its network switched on is quite handy.
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7. September 2013 @ 16:55 |
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Airport routers are nice but I need more control of my router and any of the three I mentioned are great plus one more I didn't mention like Amp routers. Actually any of these routers you can just plug in and go, much like the Airport so they are easy to or hard if you want them to be, more options.
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8. September 2013 @ 22:23 |
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I pulled the trigger on my new ASUS RT-AC66U Dual-Band Wireless-AC1750 Gigabit Router which I got for ~$170 shipped. Can hardly wait to play with this gem and having faster speeds plus further coverage without adding an AP.
There is a 4w active antenna amplifier add-on I've been looking at but it is for 2.4GHz and may actually impede the 802.11AC frequency otherwise I'd love to have the extra coverage/stronger signal.
Now I'll have to buy some high speed dual-band adapters to bring my TV's,Blu-ray Players, Media Server, and computers up to pace. That's where the real expense will come in. :D
Santa could be at my doorstep as early as Wednesday, yip-pee.....
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8. September 2013 @ 23:14 |
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Will they not work with normal settings, or are you just looking for faster speeds?
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9. September 2013 @ 06:22 |
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Originally posted by sytyguy:
Will they not work with normal settings, or are you just looking for faster speeds?
I've wanted this router for more then a year now mainly for the 1.75 Gb WiFi speed and better coverage. But now that my WiFi MAC address for the Guest environment isn't changeable I'm hoping I can do so with the new router. However if that was my main concern I should have gone with an Open Source router like the Netgear or a cheaper ASUS (less speed) dual-band.
If my new router doesn't allow my Wifi's to clone I will just setup my Media Server to setup a Virtual Hotspot Server which is truly the best option as I can run scripts to change the MAC's every ten minutes allowing me to tag more people without screwing around.
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skydreamer
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12. September 2013 @ 15:25 |
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It's me again, I haven't been able to purchase the parts yet because of bureaucratic troubles, but that will be fixed in a few days.
What I was asking is if there are any good mouse+keyboard combinations for 250 krones, or roughly 30?.
Thanks again.
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12. September 2013 @ 15:37 |
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17. September 2013 @ 15:21 |
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To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. September 2013 @ 15:21
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17. September 2013 @ 15:32 |
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for 25.00 dollars its hard to go wrong, it holds a large HDD for sure... I'm still up for doing a SS HDD sometime soon, just hate to reformat
Antec 1200 Full-Tower Case/Thermaltake 750-Watt PS/ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 Mobo/Western Digital Black WD500 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache/NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTX 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express Video Card/CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 16GB DDR3 /Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo)/CORSAIR Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler/3-Asus DRW-24B1ST Sata Drives/Samsung 2493HM 24" LCD Monitior 1920x1200 resolution,5ms respone time/OS Windows 10 Pro SP1 64-bit
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17. September 2013 @ 16:13 |
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Always be careful - just because it says 4TB doesn't guarantee it - never install a drive into a new external enclosure that's larger than 2TB if you already have data on it.
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17. September 2013 @ 16:26 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Always be careful - just because it says 4TB doesn't guarantee it - never install a drive into a new external enclosure that's larger than 2TB if you already have data on it.
A reasonable and logical precaution ;) I'm not sure I have the $25 to gamble with at the moment. But I have been considering for the near future, a 4tb drive or 2. Frankly, I think I'd rather a motherboard with full support. I think that settles it. A new motherboard is really what I'm after :)
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17. September 2013 @ 17:20 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Anyone have thoughts on this little Gem? 4Tb enclosure
http://www.meritline.com/airlink-aen-u3...hq_v=f687dbd24f
There are a couple reviews on amazon. Looks decent for the price.
I almost purchased it, but I already had 2 3.0 USB docking stations. From their email discount code, wasn't it about $19 or cheaper?
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17. September 2013 @ 18:08 |
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Yeah, it's $19.99 with the code, for the first 100 orders.
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17. September 2013 @ 22:02 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Always be careful - just because it says 4TB doesn't guarantee it - never install a drive into a new external enclosure that's larger than 2TB if you already have data on it.
A reasonable and logical precaution ;) I'm not sure I have the $25 to gamble with at the moment. But I have been considering for the near future, a 4tb drive or 2. Frankly, I think I'd rather a motherboard with full support. I think that settles it. A new motherboard is really what I'm after :)
That is probably a smart move and Sam is 100% right on the warning, but it is a great deal!
My new ASUS RT-AC66U router integrated extremely well it was truly 3 simple steps to get it running and took less then 5 minutes. I did of course go back and tweak it the way I wanted it to be. The are only two things I was disappointed about, first is the WiFi is only up to 200mW transmitting power, if I had gone with the Amped it would be 700mW, and secondly the WLAN MAC is not clone-able.
One nice thing is if I use OpenWRT or DD-WRT I could clone the MACs plus expanded setup of tunneling features the ASUS-WRT doesn't provide. Originally the AC66 wasn't able to run a Linux firmware on it but that has changed recently so I may re-flash it to gain some features. However I must say the ASUS-WRT is very nice and I could live well with its features and I may even buy another one to run in either Bridged mode or better yet AP.
With my legacy WiFi adapters I get about the same coverage/beam strength as I did with the D-Link but in the bad room of the house it is more solid even though I only get 4 of 5 bars. The D-Link would fluctuate between 3 and 4 bars which would pause my laptop from time to time.
When I get new dual-band adapters with beam-forming technology things will work much better, my next purchase.
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18. September 2013 @ 02:14 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
for 25.00 dollars its hard to go wrong, it holds a large HDD for sure... I'm still up for doing a SS HDD sometime soon, just hate to reformat
reformat? Why? Cloning will work also, and no need to redo all your personal settings/tweaks
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18. September 2013 @ 03:29 |
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Omega, I have to agree. A new motherboard might be in order, and would certainly have a good effect on that Thuban. It's not very high on my current to-do list, but a new motherboard would be quite welcome should a proper deal come my way. Just put a cheap SATA 1.5 controller card in my Intel box and not a single issue that I can detect. Works fine with the 1TB Green drives and transfer speeds are A-OK.
Currently waiting for my damn Gigabyte GTX760 to come back from Newegg returns. Badly damaged box and product upon arrival. That's the last time I bother with anyone other than the same UPS route and driver I've known for 10 years. Never even got a chance to test it :( Poor thing. Lots of sources point at SLI being a solid option for these cards though I don't know if I'll ever bother. I did happen to pop the few extra bucks for the 4GB model, so that pesky memory limit should be a thing of the past :)
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18. September 2013 @ 03:39 |
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As it happens, unless perhaps they're really old, motherboards and cheap controller cards typically have no issue with 3TB and above drives. Now I wouldn't want to try RAID using them of course but that's not really an issue for me.
Where you get issues is external docks and proper controller cards. Only one of four recently purchased external docks can read 3TB disks safely without risk of wiping them.
ICH9 has no issue, neither does Si3114 yet Highpoint cards do and so do most externals, even ones from reputable brands.
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18. September 2013 @ 03:47 |
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I happen to not be invested in long-term storage for just that reason, among many others. Caution to the wind as I always say :) I have very few things that would warrant the storage equipment that attracts those issues. You video storage guys though...
Yeah that's more data than I care to store :)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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skydreamer
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18. September 2013 @ 12:46 |
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18. September 2013 @ 17:38 |
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Originally posted by skydreamer:
First time buying parts for a PC, do you think the cpu cooler is included here?
http://www.proshop.no/Products/ProductI...riantId=2371912
Thanks.
Yes that comes with a heat-sink/fan assembly and like Sam said it also comes with the thermal past on the heat-sink. So you will be good to go with that. You would only want to upgrade the heatsink/fan if you were going to OC your computer.
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19. September 2013 @ 11:08 |
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19. September 2013 @ 11:33 |
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It will but it may require a BIOS update - not all motherboards will allow you to update the BIOS with an unsupported CPU already installed - they sometimes require an older CPU inserted first.
To be safe, buy a more up to date motherboard with the Z77 chipset.
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