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18. January 2011 @ 02:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Damn! There's a freak of a case! I think I'd probably buy one of the Cube cases before that though. They're more stylish LOL! Though if you only need a file server, that's a very good case to do the job. 20 bays X 3Tb...wow! 30Tb of redundancy. That would make me a very happy guy. Pretty please bill gates? :p



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18. January 2011 @ 03:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's the same case my mate Jon has his file server in, was using 16 Seagate 7200.10s at one stage, now it's 10 7200.11s plus a Samsung F2 I think.

As for the other case, those look like 4x3.5-.3x5.25 bays. WD Greens have no issue with airflow in them as they have fans built into the front.



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18. January 2011 @ 03:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I figured I was nitpicking LOL! Given my Green drives run cool, I won't worry ;) Can't wait to have obscene amounts of Terabytes :D



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18. January 2011 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heh, all good fun unless you take your PC anywhere! I take my server to LANs, and it was backbreakingly difficult with 13 drives in it...



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18. January 2011 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Haf 932 is currently fairly awkward. My day job is highly active and quite demanding. So for the time being, i'm capable of lifting quite heavy things. Though the Lian Li/mountainmod cube fully built would be quite trying :p



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18. January 2011 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's not very heavy as large cases go, it's just cumbersome. My NZXT Whisper system when it had all the drives in was easily double the weight of my HAF 932 with my gaming PC in it.



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18. January 2011 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some of you are completely bonkers. I have enough hassle carrying a heavy backpack ~




..with laptop and (half of my worldly possessions it seems sometimes!) whatever else i carry around, bag of USB sticks and a 1TB (small and light) USB hard drive, and 1 2TB hard drive which is a nightly backup of our most important data. It's bad enough the odd time i move house, moving an Antec 900 type weight is not something i do more often than in a house move.



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18. January 2011 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh yes. Hard drive weight adds up ;)

Backpack eh? LOL, that brings back memories. Haven't used one since school. I recall when it was full of books, it was quite heavy. Very heavy indeed!

I sure wish the 3Tb drives would come down in price. I think 160USD would be much more agreeable. I'd jump on those real quick with that price. I won't touch one, til I can buy two. And at that price, they can forget it :p



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18. January 2011 @ 20:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I recently picked up a pair of WD20EARS drives as replacements for two of my ancient 5yr. old 500GB drives and after transferring a bunch of data (1.36TB) I noticed the transfer speed had dropped to 10MB/s and a ton of seeking noise. Investigation revealed that Auslogics reports a 76% fragmentation on that drive which I find very odd since the only thing I've ever done is copy files to the drive once. Is this normal or have I just gotten my fourth consecutive bad WD 2TB hdd?

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19. January 2011 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow Red. The worst I saw at one point was 25% fragmentation. I use auslogics as well. I love the sound of 5 drives de-fragmenting simultaneously(Can't wait to hear more LOL). Fragmentation for me is logical though. I do a lot of transferring and deleting. Fragmentation is inevitable for me. Your case sounds odd though. I have ~650Gb remaining, and the speed has not slowed by much. If there were a lot of faulty sectors, perhaps that makes sense. Then the data would be as fragmented as the faulty sectors. Perhaps Sam has other ideas though?



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I have none of those problems on my drives, speed issues or seeking noises, i'd suspect the problem is elsewhere. Also, have they been formatted properly (they're 'advanded format' drives don't forget) though if used under Win7 they don't need any special formatting..
I find mine don't get very fragmented, i also copy/delete large amounts of data on mine regularly and defrags don't take long at all. Defrags do take ages on my WD5000AAKS drives, however they are very full indeed ie very little space for Auslogics to manoeuvre and thus never really get defragged properly.



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19. January 2011 @ 03:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have not deleted or moved any data on that drive, and I did a "full" format when I first got it to check for bad sectors after my previous luck with WD 2TB drives (I run win7 btw).

I too have never seen drive fragment like this. All my other drives hardly ever get defragged and still never get past some low percentages.


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And you did the full format eh? Very weird stuff. Did the format take roughly 4.5 hrs?

Creaky, its not just transfers I do. Transfers generally don't fragment. At least not as bad as ripping multiple disks simultaneously :p



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19. January 2011 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fragmentation just sounds like bugs with how the data's being written to the drive. You can defrag and see if it happens again, or try a reformat and start over. I wouldn't write off the drive just for that.



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19. January 2011 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
And you did the full format eh? Very weird stuff. Did the format take roughly 4.5 hrs?

No idea, formatted it while I slept ;)

Originally posted by sammorris:
Fragmentation just sounds like bugs with how the data's being written to the drive. You can defrag and see if it happens again, or try a reformat and start over. I wouldn't write off the drive just for that.
I haven't written it off yet, however I would assume that if the problem is how the data is being written to the drive I should be having similar problems with my other hdds imo.


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20. January 2011 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Always label your drives. It makes it easier to reconfigure on the fly LOL! Trying to locate my Z:\ drive by using logic. I succeeded, but a letter or number designation would have been much easier. I located a number on the drive which suggested its the oldest 1Tb drive, which is what I want to pull for an external drive. To verify that my logic was confirmed, I ran Auslogics to wake the drive up. Confirmed! LOL! I felt and listened to each drive. Now I'll label each one! I think I understand Sam's designations a little better. Provided he labels them visually as such ;)

I just didn't wanna play the guessing game, disconnecting each drive one by one...

At least I labeled the Sata cables by which port they're connected to. Sata III, sata II etc.



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20. January 2011 @ 16:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah they're all labelled in magic marker physically, as well as logically.



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20. January 2011 @ 16:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll just use a Sharpie. Rubbing alcohol should remove it from the metallic shield. I know it works well on Dvd branded discs ;)



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20. January 2011 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah! 5% complete on full format. I forgot my sata card has 4 ports! I jump on buying things sometimes so quick, I don't fully know what I'm buying. I know, it's a habit I have to break.
Looks like I'm sporting a new Ride this weekend. Buying my brothers Ford Explorer. Good! Now I can stop stressing about my POS Grand prix. Good vehicles(Engines), but the damn electric stuff makes me nuts!

Hey sam, could you link me to your old post(or create new), where you show your insane hard drive capacities LOL!

Thanks in advance ;)



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20. January 2011 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My PC specs page is in my signature :)
Is out of date actually, I'll update it.



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20. January 2011 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I apologize. I should have been more specific. What I mean is, a visual representation (within "My computer") what your drives look like. For example:
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww302/omegaman7/Mydrives.jpg



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20. January 2011 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh, that.
Here:


Externals aren't plugged in at the moment, else there'd be two more drives there.



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20. January 2011 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, exactly! Thanks. I love the way you label your drives. There's something logical about it LOL!
Curious, when you click on your network location drives, does it have to load for a few seconds? Or is it always ready set go? One thing I hate about windows 7 thus far, is that my network always has to refresh when accessing the drives :( XP never did that to me!



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20. January 2011 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's ready from the get go unless I request info from a drive that has been spun down at idle. In which case, it will take about 10 seconds for any network activity to the machine to resume.



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20. January 2011 @ 18:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So if you didn't allow the drives to idle, there wouldn't be a problem? I'm pretty sure my drives don't idle in the other machine. Which ever machine I'm on, accessing the network, it almost always has to refresh. Weird stuff.



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