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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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ddp
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28. January 2011 @ 22:11 |
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Russ, did you open the psu to see if any caps domed as you lost the 12v line?
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29. January 2011 @ 00:48 |
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ddp,
No I didn't. It's not wprth pulling apart. I can replaace the whole computer for about $70. It's not worth my time or effort!
BTW! AD is not letting me reply to a post, only from the Reply box. At the bottom of the posts, there is only Report!
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29. January 2011 @ 00:57 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
ddp,
No I didn't. It's not wprth pulling apart. I can replaace the whole computer for about $70. It's not worth my time or effort!
BTW! AD is not letting me reply to a post, only from the Reply box. At the bottom of the posts, there is only Report!
Russ
Oh! There is a Reply button at the end of my posts though!
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29. January 2011 @ 03:14 |
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I forgot to mention that I was using Internet Destroyer (IE)! Once I got SP3 installed, firefox is working OK again! Had me scared. Everything is working fine now, as long as I don't use Everest, which puts some strange noises in the sound. No glitches to be found anywhere. The only bummer is I need to save up for a new Boot Drive. The 250 works OK, bur I would prefer to leave it split 50-50, and I do like three drives for DVDRB/CCE. One for the system/DVDRB software, one for the Work Folder, and one for the output Folder. No more acting sluggish like it was doing before!
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30. January 2011 @ 04:01 |
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Yah, Multiple drives are definitely good with rebuilder. At the very least, I use C:\ for the obvious program, X:\ for the source Y:\ for the working and then back to X:\ for the output. Yes, I work the crap out of X:\ drive LOL! It is the youngest of my WD1001FALS drives :p Most the time though, I have 4 drives in the process. Program, source, working, and output. Really depends...
I finally noted something about a bug going on. I've wondered about my Velociraptor having a bad connection. I believe I just ruled that out. I just witnessed 2 times now, that the main C:\(velociraptor) lags at exact 15min intervals. Which suggests that I have malware on my system. Because I'm unaware of any windows processes that behave in this fashion. Besides, I shut processes like that off. I've been streaming a lot of netflix videos. Which is where I first noticed the lag. I noticed at the lag, that the hard drive would make a very busy sound, for a brief moment. It happens at exact 15min intervals. And since it happens while playing games on other sites, it rules out netflix/silverlight. Guess I'll be running a check before beddy bye LOL! Gotta love deductive logical reasoning XD
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31. January 2011 @ 05:04 |
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I'm sure glad the PC motherboards aren't like PS3 motherboards. In that I mean the ribbon cable interfaces. Man are those clips fragile! I was being gentle, and the darn thing broke. I stripped a PS3 down completely, and could not find anything visually wrong with it(aside from a trivial burnt area). My guess is the GPU is dead. No video signal, and the system won't run for more than a second or two. It's preventing startup. I've heard $ony repairs consoles for cheaper than new cost. I'll probably take that route.
That broken clip sure makes me thankful for IDE connections, and Sata!
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31. January 2011 @ 07:03 |
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LOL Sony consoles are a nightmare to work on hardware-wise. Very familiar with their fetish for easily broken parts.
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31. January 2011 @ 13:54 |
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The comparable Gigabyte board is out of stock, and I need a board for a computer I'm rebuilding for somebody. The Asus has a 3 yr warranty. The MSI has only 1yr. I'm curious what you guys would do?
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31. January 2011 @ 14:08 |
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I'd probably say the MSI. You're more likely to lose more in RMAs with the Asus over those three years than you are just throwing the MSI away if it breaks after a year.
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31. January 2011 @ 14:12 |
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I can't condemn Asus forever LOL! You think they won't change indefinitely? It should be noted, that the guy buying this system is a casual user, not an enthusiast. So the board isn't gonna be super stressed. Though the guy does want to play the forthcoming "Driver: San Francisco".
Looks like the gigabyte version is becoming scarce too :( Everybody but ebay seems to be sold out! And amazon is too expensive!
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31. January 2011 @ 16:18 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
The comparable Gigabyte board is out of stock, and I need a board for a computer I'm rebuilding for somebody. The Asus has a 3 yr warranty. The MSI has only 1yr. I'm curious what you guys would do?
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Oman7,
Hands down this is the better of the three by a wide margin. It's the best selling motherboard GigaByte makes! It won't be out of stock long, and it's more often then not on sale. Mine was on sale for $59! It's the best low cost AMD board on the planet! Great Motherboard!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
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31. January 2011 @ 16:31 |
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THat's the board I want, but it's discouraging paying more for it, when I just seen it going for 69.99 shipped before the weekend! No wonder they're sold out LOL! I guess I can tell the guy to be patient. Perhaps they'll get more in today or tomorrow. They are hot sellers apparently.
Or i'll simply buy the one on ebay that I saw. Not sure if there's a warranty though :( Wonder if gigabyte would honor the warranty of an ebay sold used board.
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31. January 2011 @ 17:25 |
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I bought a supposed new board on ebay. The one we've talking about: GA-MA785GM-US2H.
Russ, thank you for changing my mind. I had to pay 79.99shipped, but it really is worth it. I'll just tell the guy it's gonna cost a little more for it than I thought xD
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31. January 2011 @ 17:51 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
THat's the board I want, but it's discouraging paying more for it, when I just seen it going for 69.99 shipped before the weekend! No wonder they're sold out LOL! I guess I can tell the guy to be patient. Perhaps they'll get more in today or tomorrow. They are hot sellers apparently.
Or i'll simply buy the one on ebay that I saw. Not sure if there's a warranty though :( Wonder if gigabyte would honor the warranty of an ebay sold used board.
Oman7,
GigaByte doesn't care where you bought it. They go strictly by the Serial Number. The only exception would be if you bought a Motherboard that was old from a retailer. It's the only time that they will ask to see the invoice for it, and Gigabyte will honor it!
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. January 2011 @ 18:12 |
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Thanks for the info russ. And the guy doesn't mind paying a little more. He's anxious to play with it LOL!
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31. January 2011 @ 19:57 |
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1. February 2011 @ 01:40 |
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Holy rupturing capacitors, Russ your right on/ I just fixed a Samsung 46 LCD HDTV and then a Viewsonic 22" monitor. I'm darn glad of the DOA PC p/s which I salvaged components from because the nearest parts house is 70 miles away. I found some component specs overkill is the way to go i.e. replaced a 2200mfd/10v with 3300mfd/16v worked great. I always recommend using a higher voltage than OEM.
I gave up using a solder sucker and found a heat gun and vise grips are the only way to depopulate/recycle PCB's, use a metal bucket outside to catch falling parts, a sharp rap on the bucket will loosen stubborn components & solder. Ed
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1. February 2011 @ 07:19 |
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Never found myself resurrecting full PCBs but I've done more than my fair share of recaps. Agreed that you should always use higher spec components than OEM. Though my solder bulb does work perfectly for capacitors, it doesn't work so well for chips and the like. I do have a spring loaded puller for chips that works well though I've only used it like twice.
Currently working on repairing a Socket 754 MSI board. I have a 3000+ to drop in it already, it just has a cap broken loose. I'll get around to it eventually.
Mind you most of my experience tearing down soldered components was for e-waste reclamation....
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1. February 2011 @ 08:11 |
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Wander over to Newegg and look for Sandy Bridge processors and motherboards, surprise where did they go? We it seems Chipzilla (aka Intel)got in too much of a hurry with their H/P67 chipsets. Since they took legal action against Nvidia there are NO other chipsets for Sandy Bridge. So while Nvidia has a good laugh and "we told so" all motherboards and processors have been pulled by virtually all retailers. Chipzilla expect new chipsets will be available by the end of February. Of course I'm not going to be one of the first to field test them! What's this hiccup going to cost just $700 million pocket change to Chipzilla who's 1st quarter profit is $3 Billion. I would imagine early adopters are jumping with joy with the prospect of replacing motherboards after doing RMA.
Too bad AMD can't take advantage of a broken Tick Tock.
For techies the SATA2 portion of PCU does a slow dying act leaving HDD's Optical drives "not found". Ed
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1. February 2011 @ 08:33 |
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Originally posted by eskoog:
Holy rupturing capacitors, Russ your right on/ I just fixed a Samsung 46 LCD HDTV and then a Viewsonic 22" monitor. I'm darn glad of the DOA PC p/s which I salvaged components from because the nearest parts house is 70 miles away. I found some component specs overkill is the way to go i.e. replaced a 2200mfd/10v with 3300mfd/16v worked great. I always recommend using a higher voltage than OEM.
I gave up using a solder sucker and found a heat gun and vise grips are the only way to depopulate/recycle PCB's, use a metal bucket outside to catch falling parts, a sharp rap on the bucket will loosen stubborn components & solder. Ed
eskoog,
In my case, Poverty does that to you. It makes you fix or modify things you would normally throw away! My electronics supply is only a mile away, so Caps are pretty easy. Chipsets are tricky but doable with a heat gun and the right tip/nozzle. My toughest job to date was converting a Lite-on Lite-Scribe DVD drive from a belt driven tray mechanism, to a gear driven one. Lite-On wouldn't sell me a new belt, and they wanted $85 to fix it. Pissed me off enough that I was going to make it work, or else! LOL!! I had to do a little "On the Spot Engineering", but it's now a 20x DVD Burner with Lite-Scribe, with a gear driven Tray Mechanism that says on the label and Tray cap that it's a CD-Rom drive. It's been in my friend Dave's computer for over a year now, and he watches DVDs on it all the time, and burns a lot of them as well! Works perfectly! I hate to lose! Especially when I get mad enough at a company that wants to charge me $85 for a $1.50 belt that takes all of 30 seconds to replace, that you can't find anywhere! It gives one inspiration so you consider the possibilities! I just don't like losing to mechanical things! LOL!!
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1. February 2011 @ 09:28 |
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For the record Russ me and mine have had good luck with small rubber bands.
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1. February 2011 @ 12:48 |
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I've seen assorted packages of rubber-bands somewhere before. Perhaps a dollar store.
I would love to play with circuitry more. But my eyes aren't what they used to be. I sure hope the nvidia chip isn't the problem on the PS3 board. Otherwise I'm gonna have to replace the motherboard. Which is cheaper than sending it off to $ony ;) Which would be fine, given I accidentally broke the Ribbon interface clip on the mobo :S
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1. February 2011 @ 16:22 |
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To bad we are being squeezed out of the repair business. It seems manufactures are determined to make all consumer electronics disposal. I recently added a set of security driver bits for those "don't even think of opening this". Although they tout service secretly they do everything in their book of tricks to make sure you'll never try it again. Service literature is TOP SECRET along with some components, sorry I meant PROPRIETARY. How many times have I heard service centers say "we don't fix anything here". It seems value engineering (aka cheap)has reached a point where they know the precise day a device will fail, which always just outside the OEM warranty too, thereby insuring a steady stream of buyers and service contracts.
I still have my dual trace oscilloscope, a DIY tracker which nails bad caps/simiconductors pronto, several DVM's, capacitor checker, amprobes, and many tools including a desoldering station. As mentioned I live 70 miles west of Fort Worth on acreage and keep cannibalizing bad PCB's for my parts survival kit. My wife promised to dig a grave large enough to fit me and my "junk" for my voyage to the after life LOL. For awhile it seems like I was the last dinosaur standing in the tar pit. Hearing from another component level troubleshooter sure helps. ED
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1. February 2011 @ 17:02 |
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Hope you don't mean me. I know damn little about PCB's and components therein. I'm simply intrigued enough to check it out. Unlike the general population ;)
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1. February 2011 @ 18:52 |
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eskoog, should replace cap with same microfard rating but can up the voltage rating on that cap so that your cap can be 2200uf 16v instead of 2200uf 10v but not 3300uf 16v.
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