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kalunjoku
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22. March 2005 @ 04:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dude, i see pictures, but still you cannot get those fps in cs source UNLESS you are alone in the server(being the only player) the people i work with (We run everything with computers at this college) have awesome computers and my boss has a liquid cooled Athlon 64 fx53 with an X850 PCI 16x also liquid cooled. He has a gig of ram and he only stays in the 150s when there are people in the server. when he's the only one, he reads numbers like yours. Maybe we should get on another forum since this has nothing to do with overclocking 2800's anymore.

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22. March 2005 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
with people it stays happily at 80~100+fps...
pics are to prove the XT-age of my SE ;)

but yes with a 180bus after a few minutes it does the memory crash.. which is GAY

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22. March 2005 @ 07:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok that sounds more realistic. I was like "how is he getting better fps than me?" i even played last night with people and stayed in the 130's and i was telling people about you and they were like "WHAT!!" I also couldnt understand that because my pro is clocked faster than an xt with my GiantIII (i wish it was liquid like yours) and you were still killing mine. Now we know...

Anyway, I'll ask the guys at work and see what's wrong with the computer crashing cuz of your memory

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22. March 2005 @ 11:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dr x can i learn some qauntum phyisics off you? lol :P, but anyways i have the same card as you the fx 5200, and i thought mine was amazing, but i cant even get over 60 fps in 1.6 lol, let alone 30 in source. SOOOO im going to spend 500$ for my computer improvement. Which is better then what i planned. (BUYING PSP) lol 2 days lefttttt.

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22. March 2005 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rishi im planning to switch to ati, im getting the x600 (nice card for the price) or maybe a 6600gt but dont know yet!!

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Let's stick to OC'ing XP 2800's in this thread ;)



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22. March 2005 @ 16:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well sowiiiii :) but NVIDIA RULES ( im canadian i shouldnt be saying that) but yes the 2800+ is what i would recommend for overclocking for a low price.
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23. March 2005 @ 02:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi again,

I am curious about the best oc settings for my bios. I currently have things set for normal use, but I would like to kick it up a bit. I guess i'm ignorant to the proper settings for my latency timings. I currently set the vcore up one step. It runs about 1.72v

Hey dr., like my sig says, I love the value behind my video card. I'm holding out until the value/performance of SLI boards comes down to reality.

As all ways, love all of the time you guys put in to helping others, keep up the good work.

jag

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23. March 2005 @ 03:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what kind of ram is is dual channel xms or is it just ordinary single channel ram? if it xms you should be able to run it at 2.2.2.5 i got kingston and mine can handle that up to 180 mhz but the stock setting is 2.3.2.6 at 400mhz but a bud of mine uses xms and it runs 2.2.2.5 at 400mhz np



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23. March 2005 @ 03:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Swamp,

I'm off to work, but I will check back. I updated sig. My ram is DDR, nice heat spreaders, etc. I currently see this in my bios:
cas...lat 3.0
ras...cas 3
ras...prechg 3
tras 8
this is @200 mhz for each chip
I'm just curious as the the most power/stability settings for this chip, or if the best option was the 2800 barton i just upgraded from.

thanks for the quick reply

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23. March 2005 @ 05:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
JAGERB
hi i manage to run my 2800 at 2.45ghz no problem im running geil platinium pc-4400 512(2x256) (550mhz) of course just with a p4 i can get my mem running at that speed..

my settings:
-cpu interface: optimal
-fsb:196 mhz
-vcore: 1.775v
-memory settings(user define)
*timings: 6-3-3-2.5 (my mem default is 8-4-4-3)
*mem volt: 2.6
*memory frequency: you can either set it to auto or 120% if you choose the later it will say ruslting freq 200 mhz that is cpu fsb and ddr ratio 1/2 but in my system it work faster when i set it to auto. dont try BY SPD because it never boot when you overclock dont know why? it only work with stock settings.

try that it work pretty good for me this xp2800 is flying!!

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23. March 2005 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jagerbrth
i,m pretty sure you could tighten those timings up a bit espially if you are using xms try 2.2.2.6 if it runs ok try tightening to 2.2.2.5 if you can get it to run at those timings it should run sweet i was runing mine at 2.3.2.6 which is stock for 400mhz kingston till i found out you can run it at 2.2.2.5 up to about 185mhz i noticed the diff straight away snappier and more stable good luck let me know

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kalunjoku
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Swamp, why dont you get the newer revision of BIOS for the Asus boards. I don't have rev 1010 but i have 1009. 1010 is just sempron support and i think 1009 is stuff that may be important. I dunno.

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hi me again, just to let all u hardcore oc's know bout my new oc..... i just bought one of those a7n8x-deluxe mobo's and firstly tried to oc an unlocked 2500+ to its limits, the limits were 3200+ speeds (400*11) and no more, any higher it was unstable nomatter where the voltage or multiplyer was. so i dumped the 2500+ and stuck in the old faithful, 2800+. before when i posted it was clocked at 2.35ghz (189*12.5) now i have it stable as me nan's zimmoframe at 2.47 (197*12.5).. voltage is at 1.800 and its 53 idle and 61 under full load (abit hot but crappy aero7 on it) this gives me a 3dmark 03 score of 11976 running with 2*512mb DDR400 @ 197mhz and a geforce 6800gt oc'd to 410 core and 1100 memory,,, oh and a 550watt psu. it's getting close to 2.5gig ;-)
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HI again all,

Thanks for the responses. I just got home from the tavern. I will review everything in the AM.

This forum has been the most helpful since I started.

My first puter was an IMB Aptiva, 4mb ram, .87gb HD, 15" crt, 100mhz Pentium. It was a bad mofo.

$2500.00 I played Descent and shit. LOL I paid $380 to go from 4mb of ram to 16mb,heh... It was a lot faster.

I think some of us remember those days.

Good Times,

J Bizzle

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24. March 2005 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
look at this if you think yours is fast, just look at the core speed

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56374

Beat that mother of a score!!!

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Makes my 10731 score look positively lagging!!!!!

GODDAMMMMITT


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now that is a fast pc... puts mine to shame, i really need to cool mine down, any suggestions on good airflow products anyone my cpu hits 63 degrees under full load 55 idle. but its still very stable under Prime 95, not one crash in 3 days.

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26. March 2005 @ 05:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello oballz heat is an important issue in overclocking even your sys is stable but performance is not the same at high temps.

here are a few heatsinks commonly use by overclockers!!:

http://www.xoxide.com/thvo12.html

this one thw volcano excelent fan 2000-6000 rpm
state of the art fan noisy a max speed but excelent thats the one i have highly recommend it.

http://www.xoxide.com/zalman-7000b-cu-cpu-cooler.html

zalman is famous for silent cooling is great fan!
has retention clips to attach it to your mobo the asus has 4 holes for that need to remove the mobo to seat it!!

http://www.xoxide.com/thermalright-si-97-cpu-cooler.html

thermalright are consider among best heatsink in the market accordeing to all the review ive read. no fan included!!

so hop i help

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26. March 2005 @ 07:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanx Dr XP great help as always, the volcano it seems is a very common cooler for the o/cer. think i might go for that then i may push the voltage up and go for 2.5Ghz. these 2800's rock! whats the highest you've got on yours Xp?
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27. March 2005 @ 05:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Glad i help!
volcano 12 rocks!! i use the 3.5``bay control knob better than the rear one. at max speed work fine!! noisy but that mean is working jejejeje.

the maximun a got my 2800+ so far is 2,437mhz (195*12,5) im goin for 2.5ghz (200*12.5) but first i need to relocate my case fans!

let me know how you do and try to get artic silver 5
it really work it can help you cut 5-7Cº extra. if you use it the right way.

http://www.xoxide.com/arcticsilver5.html


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27. March 2005 @ 07:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

I have a MSI MOBO (MS-7021) and I just got an AMD XP 2800+ CPU (Barton). I want to OC it, but I've had no luck. It just isn't stable. I tried setting the FSB to 170Mhz, it ran for a few hours, then the OS crashed. The temps are 55c idle, and 61c under a load. These temps are using the stock heatsink and fan. I'm getting a Volcano 12, hoping that will help. I have 5 case fans, and I'm adding two more for a total of (4 front, 1 side, 2 rear, + PS fan). Current system temp is about 43c.
The power supply is 520W. The only other thing I can think of outside of temp, is RAM. I have 2 512MB PC3200 DDR.

Any tips or suggestions are appreciated.

MikeT
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27. March 2005 @ 08:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I finally decided to overclock my AMD XP 2800+, and ive had tremendous success, in fact so successful im worried:

I set fsb to 200mhz and left multiplier at 12.5x and upped the vcore voltage to 1.75V.
Now its running at 2500mhz / 39C idle / 49C load and it seems pretty stable.

Im wondering if I should be worried about anything at this point, its stable and all, but this is the highest frequency anyone on this forum has achieved with a 2800+ I believe. I just hope this isnt an error in Asus Probe.

Any reassurance?

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27. March 2005 @ 11:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
storm 666 you are right 2.5ghz must of us havent got there yet if is stable ok them what cooling are you using? and vcore? memory?.

try rinning prime 95 stress test to see if is really stable because one thing is running just windows and another is getting your cpu to full load!!

let us know.

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hello mikey welcome to the forums..
ok lets see your mobo is running on a via kt600 chipset a lot been said about via`s chipset ovecloking abilities to be not that good as nvidia`s nforce 2 chipsets. but i belive that msi corecell chip add a lots of options for overc.

170mhz x 12.5= 2.125 thats just 42 mhz from stock values (2083) it should work fine i think you need help with ur config

let us know so we can help you:
-vcore settings
-memory brand
-memory timings
you have the hardware to get more out of that xp2800


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27. March 2005 @ 14:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dr.XP Thanks,

vcore = 1.65

I tried 1.7 and 1.8, but was afraid that anything higher than 1.7 would be too hot.

memory brand = generic 512MB PC3200 DDR

I suspect this may be a problem. So, I'm going to get some Kingston 3200.

memory timings = ?? not sure, must be set to auto.

Thanks

MikeT
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