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bigdm
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27. November 2004 @ 05:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have 2 cases where I am getting this "Data Error (Cyclic Redundacy check)" message.
i) When I click on Import DVD in Nero Recode 2 or click on Open Disk in DVD Shrink 3.2, I get this message during the analyzing step of an orignal DVD disc.
ii) I have 2 DVD files which I saved using Nero Recode 2 on my hard drive. When I tried to burn these files a week later to a blank disc I get this message no matter whether I use Nero Recode 2 or DVD Shrink 3.2.

On the 2 DVD files on my hard drive, do I need to go through the analyzing part if I have gone through that once. Just to let you know I am using DVD43 and I have burned DVD files saved to my hard drive many times to disc.

Thanks for any help you can give.
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27. November 2004 @ 15:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

Did you ever get a resolution to this?

Thanks...
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27. November 2004 @ 15:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A CRC means your drive isn't able to read part of the disc. This is usually caused by a dirty or scratched disc, a bad factory original, dust on the laser lens, a failing drive or a poorly burned copy. Any of these ring a bell?



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bigdm
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27. November 2004 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

The original DVD disc I have does have stracthes on it but it plays okay in the DVD player. I cleaned it with solution used to clean computer monitors and tried reading it again but I still got the error.
As for as the copies on my harddrive they were copied from a friend so I don't have the originals to determine if they were dirty or had stracthes. If Recode 2 was able to read them the 1st time why can't it be read now since it was burned directly to my hard drive. These are not a copy of a copy
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27. November 2004 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Standalone DVD players are built to handle small read errors whereas when you try to rip the film bit for bit in a PC drive it'll choke.

I would imagine if Recode was able to rip the disc to your hard drive that it would be fine but obviously this isn't the case here and I'm at a loss to explain why. Have you drefragged your hard drive lately?




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bigdm
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27. November 2004 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The hard drive which I temporarily store my DVD files is 160 GB. I presently have used up less than 12 GB so disk clean and defragment does not help which i tried.

Is there anyway to burn the 2 files already on the HD without having to go throught the "import DVD" part of Recode 2?

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27. November 2004 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If they're small enough to fit a blank you should be able to burn the VIDEO_TS folder as data with Nero Burning ROM or any standard burning app for that matter.



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bigdm
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27. November 2004 @ 19:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there a Nero Burning ROM guide that I can follow? Both files should be less than 4.7 GB since I checked the fit to 4.7 GB box and deleted Extra scenes.
bigdm
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27. November 2004 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I followed the below guide to burining with Nero ROM that was given by ScubaPete to another Newbie. I got redundancy errors as well.


Follow this guide -

OK zen, is everyone comfy ? Goot - its now time for - -
"Uncle" ScubaPete's German, goose Step by goose Step, Let's burn with Nero 6 Guide -

First - Do not use Nero Wizard -
Please follow EXACTLY -
Vhen you open Nero Burning ROM, you vill be at zee "New Compilation" window. Directly under the title "New Compilation" is a choice block to choose either zee DVD or zee CD, choose zee "DVD". Directly under that click on zee "DVD Video Icon." Then click "New" in the upper right corner of that screen, NOT zee main screen.
You now are in zee "DVD Video" window. In zee left screen, click "VIDEO_TS". In zee "File Browser" screen, 3rd from zee left, trace your path to zee VIDEO_TS folder, zee one you made earlier holding all of your files and click on that folder. All of your VIDEO_TS files are now opened in zee right screen. Click on zee top file, hold down zee "Shift" key and then click zee bottom file thereby hi-lighting zee entire column of files. Click and (holding zee left mouse button down) drag zee entire column of files to zee open screen, second from zee left and release zee mouse button. Now click zee icon on zee task bar that shows a match on a disc, and then click "OK" and now, clear zee room, stand up tall and shout out, "Burn Baby, BURN" ! One more time, let me hear you say it, "Who's your Daddy Now ???"

See how that does -

Pete

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27. November 2004 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i kinda have the same problem when i analyze with shrink it stops at last 3 secs of the disc. so i looked at it and cleaned it. now i tired it again same thing.then i looked closer with a lamp and i saw a little scratch on the edge it's not deep or nething. is there a way to skip dis part? i dun care if i can't c last few min of video. and i tried dvdlab and it couldn't read it neither. i was able to copy the dvd to my hard drive but i am missing the files on the edge. do u get wat i'm saying?

Tnx
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27. November 2004 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you're still getting the CRC there's not much hope for salvaging them as far as I know. Do they play fine in a software player such as PowerDVD or WinDVD?



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V1ralIV
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28. November 2004 @ 12:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It works perfectly till where it gets to the part missing the files ( ripped non compressed version )

It plays perfectly from DVD
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28. November 2004 @ 14:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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It works perfectly till where it gets to the part missing the files ( ripped non compressed version )
Off your hard drive, correct? What missing files?



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bigdm
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28. November 2004 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't play any DVDs on my computer so I can't say whether they work or not. I am giving up on these and will borry them from my friend again. Thanks for all the help.
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28. November 2004 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem :)



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V1ralIV
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29. November 2004 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the back up in the drive has all the files and the right file size but mayb this is because it a mounted iso on a virtual drive. so i tried ripping w/ dvd encrypter in file mode and i can't rip VST_03_0.ifo, vst_03_0.VOB, vst_03_1.vob
V1ralIV
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2. December 2004 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BUMP im desperate im sorry
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3. December 2004 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I'm thoroughly confused.
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the back up in the drive has all the files and the right file size but mayb this is because it a mounted iso on a virtual drive.
By this you mean the files are on your hard drive since they have to be in order to be mounted in a virtual drive. Then you go on to say this,
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so i tried ripping w/ dvd encrypter in file mode and i can't rip VST_03_0.ifo, vst_03_0.VOB, vst_03_1.vob
If the files are on your hard drive why are you trying to rip them again?


Do us both a favor and explain in detail what you're trying to accomplish and what errors or problems you're having.



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bigdm
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3. December 2004 @ 11:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nephilim,
Could he be having the same problem that I had where I was able to burn the files to my hard drive initially but after about week I wanted to burn the files to an actual DVD disc but Recode2 kept giving me CRC error when trying to analyze the files in the VIDEO_TS folder I burned on the hard drive.
V1ralIV
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5. December 2004 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
when i ripped it i made an ISO it was showing it had all the files. this might be because of the table of contents cause when i ripped it i skipped a few files. when i did it in file mode it was missing the same files as b4. what i want to do is skip these files but still be able tu shrink it. i don't care if i'm missing part of the dvd


BTW its not encrypted

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V1ralIV
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6. December 2004 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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7. December 2004 @ 15:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have had the Crc error problem and the solution for me is to play the original/ dvd in my Apex 1010W send the audio & video signal through My Terapin Video cd recorder Then to my Philips 77 dvd+r recorder. I realise this is a Rube Goldberg type set up ,But for me to get the movie copied. granted I have to decide what I want oon my back up but when DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink wont work this will. I may loose a little quaiity but The quality appears good to me. Alternatively has anyone used either ? skip doctor crank gadjet or one of the affordable motorized cleaners/repair gadjets the kind that look like a portable cd player? And if so do they work well? and yes I do clean my disc an I mainly have the crc problem with scratched disc. thanx and Yello!
V1ralIV
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7. December 2004 @ 17:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so ur saying to use a set-top box player to play it then use a video card w/ VIVO to record it?

if this is what ur saying then i dunt have ne resources mainly hte VIVO part but is there a software to read cds or dvds and skip the CRC errors like a set-top box?
V1ralIV
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10. December 2004 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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10. December 2004 @ 21:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NO viral my friend I realize not everyone has the same set up. I was merely stating a option that I use when the crc error goblin attacks.if you don't have the same or a similar set up then perhaps this is not your option my friend.. Alternaively you could probably use a PLEXTOR PX-M420U which is an outoard usb2 video capture device. you would also probably need a product called the Clarifier- A copyguard killer) unless your original soure dvd's are not encrypted with macrovision- or whatever copy protection. As I myself have not used the plextor I would assume that it would pass along the macrovision signal . My advice were it me in your situation is that bieng crc errors are mainly caused by scratched/deffective dvds is to try another copy of that movie if possible. A cleaner uncratched verson is preferred. also make sure your dvd disc is clean . hope this was helpful my viral friend happy holidays
 
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