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2. August 2005 @ 04:29 |
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I agree with brobear on your backups are already finalized.
Quote: I've read that some disc's can't be played unless they are finalized
Usually this pertains to dvd home burners, "recorders" for televisions.These burners are similar to vcrs in which you can burn episodes of like survivor,week after week,pause through commercials,and burn until the disc is full.After you have what you want after editing out commercials and such that you may have missed,you then "finalize" it or "make compatable" depending on which recorder and media you are using.Then it "may" be able to be played in other stand alones.
Some dvd players are not only picky on regular dvd backups,same applies to tv home recorders,LOL. It's all about compatability!
Quote: Browsed over Office Depot's website
They haven't got much on sale this week.Their maxell +8x should be either maxell-002-00,made by hitachi if the upc code says made in japan.If they are made in taiwan,then they will be ritek-r03. Both very good. They have some +r dual layers on sale so I will have to go there tomorrow.
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stockinv
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3. August 2005 @ 09:25 |
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Well, as expected, the Phillips -R didn't work either. I'll try a different media. I'm wondering if I should stick with -R because the specs on my DVD player say -R, although some have said they successfully used +R media.
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3. August 2005 @ 13:36 |
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On your opening post:
Quote: but won't work on my highest quality dvd player, an Integra 10.5.
What issue is that integra showing on your backups?
Is it a "no disc inserted" error?
Or does is try to play and may skip/pause/freeze?
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stockinv
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3. August 2005 @ 16:27 |
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It won't play at all. I get the message, "stop", then "no play".
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3. August 2005 @ 17:21 |
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That's the toughest error to fix.Sometimes the higher quality media may help.If that don't help,a format change to plus may help.
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brobear
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3. August 2005 @ 17:44 |
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I went to the Integra site and looked up the DPS 10.5. http://www.integrahometheater.com/model.cfm?m=DPS-10.5&class=DVD&p=i
Quote: Universal Compatibility
In addition to offering playback of high-resolution DVD-Audio discs, this universal player reads multi-channel SACD, MP3, CD-R/ RW and DVD±R/ RW. The DPS-10.5 doesn't just simply support these formats, it excels at it ? reproducing your favorite music and movies with new clarity and depth.
According to that, the 10.5 should play just about anything that's round, it lists the DVD -/+R specifically. So, it will handle either. I'd suggest you try the Verbatim DataLife Plus or the Sony in +R, preferably the Japanese manufactured. However the Taiwan products under these brands have proven to be good. That will put the media question to rest.
You can even download the manual if you don't have one, lost it, or just want one on the PC. http://63.148.251.135/redirect_service.cfm?type=own_manuals&file=... You'll need Adobe Reader for the pdf format. Free download at http://www.download.com . Check out the online support. http://integrahometheater.com/prod_support.cfm
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brobear
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3. August 2005 @ 17:57 |
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Once you find if the media is your problem or not, you may want to test the system. SiSoft Sandra from http://www.sisoftware.net has a Lite version of Sandra that is free. It has modules to test just about everything on the PC. Once you check the drives and OS you'll know if there is a problem there. By now if you're still having problems and haven't found it, I'd be contacting Integra. If the recordings you've done play on other standalone players and not the Integra, I'd be thinking it was the Integra standalone player at fault. After all, the thing is supposed to play it all. The support would also know of specific problems the equipment might have and if there are any updates for the player.
DVDInfoPro is a good tool for checking Disc read/write errors, just in case you may want to check some discs. There's a freeware version.
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stockinv
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3. August 2005 @ 19:43 |
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To further complicate matters, the Integra manual doesn't mention
+R at all. So there's a conflict between the manual and the site.
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brobear
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3. August 2005 @ 22:46 |
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Well, to be sure, call Integra support. There was some numbers at the bottom of the manual that might help. If you don't have a working number, let's hope the dealer that sold the equipment does. It being a newer unit, I suspect it may just be + and -R. But then I'm wrong most of the time anyway. ;) Like some manuals I've seen, they may have used the (-) as a dash, as in DVD-RW. The way they do it is confusing, so, as I said, contact support. Too many conflicting opinions here and Integra should know their own equipment.
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stockinv
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25. August 2005 @ 09:34 |
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Eureka! I bought some +R Phillips dvd's and they worked in all 4 of my dvd players. I wonder what I can do with all the -R coasters I bought? Thanks for all your help.
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brobear
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25. August 2005 @ 11:17 |
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skeet
BTW, you're welcome. Glad you got it sorted out and have media compatible with all your equipment.
If you want to run one of the discs through DVD Identifier, freeware on the net, just google. It would be interesting to see if those are Philips media or some they bought from another manufacturer and sold under the Philips brand.
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25. August 2005 @ 16:25 |
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Hey stockindave, great to see the plus format is working out for you now. I agree with brobear,if you run into any future issues on playback,those phillips discs would be you first thing to change.Most of them I have run into were produced by cmags.
Those so-called coasters may be ok with a cheapo dvd player.They usually play everything.
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stockinv
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25. August 2005 @ 16:33 |
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My Phillips -R discs were cmags, so I assume the +R are too. However, the bottom line is that they work. I wonder if all +R will work, but I don't want to spend any more $ experimenting.
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brobear
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25. August 2005 @ 16:41 |
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Philips makes Philips coded media and sell it as well, so without checking, you sometimes don't know what you're getting anyway. The Philips I've used with the Philips code was with RW and they worked great. I've got one that is about 8 years old and still working. Way past normal though. That's why I asked for the check. Since cmags are no where near the top quality media, you can almost bet the farm that other quality +R media will work. You'll find that compatibility and quality aren't always the same. That's where some people get into trouble with cheap media. A friend of mine used some cheap media about a year ago. He thought he'd replaced the recordings he'd done. He hadn't and he's starting to find some discs that have spots and the player won't recognize the discs at all. They were compatible, but now they won't play. I'm not saying your cmags are that bad, but they do enjoy a bad reputation for quality.
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stockinv
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25. August 2005 @ 18:27 |
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Yep, it's a Cmag. Any suggestions of quality +R discs?
PS I don't have a farm.
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stockinv
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25. August 2005 @ 19:01 |
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Brob, another question. Can I record MP3's from my computer to a DVD+R disc? If so, how?
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brobear
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25. August 2005 @ 19:26 |
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Buying over the counter, the Sony +R is a safe bet. I just ran a test on some of the Tai Sony coded discs and they had no errors at all. That's top class. The Japanese Sony is usually a Mitsubishi product, one of the top manufacturers of premium media. So, no difference in quality from the Japanese or Tai that I could tell. Verbatim +R in the DataLife Plus is a safe bet, not DataLife (which are usually good as well, but not the premium). Ricoh media is a safe bet. The majority of my video backups are on Ricoh manufactured media. For the longest they were the supplier for the top brands for +R. They still are for several. Taiyo Yuden is another good brand and they manufacture and sell some under their own name as well as selling to major brands. You'll find the problem is that many brands shop around and you don't know for sure which manufactured product you're getting. Notorious is Memorex and their association with CMC Magnetics (CMC or cmag). Used to be, Memorex sold media by Ritek, Ricoh and other quality manufacturers, then came CMC.
MP3s, you just need some good recording software. Try Sonics Roxio suite, it does MP3s, I'm not sure about DVDs, I haven't used that one for a while. Nero definitely records MP3s to DVD. As I said, it's mostly a matter of having the right software.
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26. August 2005 @ 03:45 |
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I'm with brobear.I only buy the plus format-for booktyping them to dvd-rom..Sony and fuji in the 1x-8x speed are very good.Verbatim datalife plus,japanese maxells,and of course the tys.The taiwanese maxells and sony are still very good.The majority of the 8x speed media seems a lot better than the 4x speed of these brands I listed.
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brobear
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26. August 2005 @ 09:40 |
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Quote: The majority of the 8x speed media seems a lot better than the 4x speed of these brands I listed.
I don't know if I'd go that far. The 4X media is sort of drying up. The Fuji 4X +R, as well as Maxell were Ricoh. I'm not sure now. So, I'm not sure about now, but in the past, the 4X +R of some of those brands were just as good as the 8X. My last shipment of Fuji, a couple months back consisted of 4X +R Ricoh and 8X +R TY. I was happy with the quality of both.
AllMedia is selling Ricoh 4X +R and an acquaintance mentioned they coded the same as the good media from before and they are still the deep purple I've grown to like. Ricoh wasn't selling under their own brand in the US; they just started recently.
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