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rugripper
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21. December 2005 @ 16:13 |
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i know but i did have it oc`ed to a 2970@166@338 1T@330x9...passed all memrest and prime....this baby flies...cant get nothing with one stick of single channel junk if you know what i mean.these ocz el plats rev 2 come stock 2225 1T@2.6 V PC3200 DDR400 they are just awesome.....right now i have i stick of that in and it fading fast.voltage at 2.9 and climbing just to keep it running...those arses sent me two bad kits of ram,dont get it but he told me im getting the tccd chips so im real happy about that....i think they sent me junk or this mobo is shorting them out ...dont know....how can i check the memory channels without putting the ram in them.cant right.one stick runs fine twos sticks work for a month and then died on me...im like wtf,got to burn and play if you know what i mean...lol...peace
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21. December 2005 @ 16:29 |
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Well then let's fix this puppy and play ball. Let us know about your fixes as they progress. This is the stuff that Newbies' want to hear about. Let's give them a map.
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21. December 2005 @ 16:46 |
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lmao@the puppies....come here your a puppy after a while you turn into the dogs that we all are now...lmao....yeah man,once i get it,i definitly am going to oc it back and then i`ll post....there alot of people want to see what this mobo can do.just wish i could get it over the 3000 mhz mark for a 3800+ san diego that would be awesome but 2900 aint shabby when a fx57,and opteron 154 venus both clock in at 2800mhz,and those cpu`s are almost 4 times more in price then mine.....peace
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21. December 2005 @ 17:00 |
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just wish i could get it over the 3000 mhz mark for a 3800+ San Diego
Nice goal but in the end it's about performance. LOL
How much stuff can it do quickly given the current speed of its individual parts! Fortunately they can be measured!
Post Benchmarks!!!
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21. December 2005 @ 18:49 |
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I already uninstalled Sandra. The results were shaky at best. The last dual mode board I used posted around 3.2, to 3.4M on the memory bandwidth tests...this board in single mode shown only around 2.3M. Gonna have to find a more reliable way of testing this machine.
By the way, in testing hard drive scores, who here uses HD Tach?
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21. December 2005 @ 19:00 |
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Chagnging the tests won't speed things up, you'll need new hardware for that. Every comparison should be given some regard for the system's time.
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21. December 2005 @ 19:26 |
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Chagnging the tests won't speed things up, you'll need new hardware for that.
Actually, a single stick of ram, or removing one of the three I have to enable dual channel.
Sandra's test results compared to Speedfan, BIOS settings, and others were way off with this motherboard, therefore I deemed it unreliable. Sure, it read some things correctly, but not all.
Bandwidth. Note that my tests were under par compared to even slower systems. The VIA KT400 chipset runs @ 333mhz...same as mine. (Though using a 400fsb CPU, I can turn mine up to 400, you cannot do that on the KT400)
SpeedFan results:
Note CPU and case temp, and compare to Sandra's results. Sandra shows a "PCI" temp higher than that of the CPU?
These tests are being done on a completely new system....fresh OS install. Nothing else is running while these tests are being done. Something just isn't ticking....and on top of that, it's showing that I have two CPU temp settings, when this board only has one.
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21. December 2005 @ 19:43 |
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Hmm! Yes I noticed that your AUX temp was also listed twice. What's intersting is that the CPU temps seemed to list extremes, from cold to hot.
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22. December 2005 @ 02:55 |
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Which version of SiSoft Sandra is being used for the test? Don't know if it applies or not, but the Lite version doesn't support the newer 64 bit systems. I skimmed over the shots and didn't see the system processor listed.
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22. December 2005 @ 04:25 |
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The Athlon Barton core (XP 3000+) is a 32 bit CPU and I'm using the lite version successfully because without a 64 bit operating system it's still effectively just a 32 bit system.
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22. December 2005 @ 05:18 |
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Sandra 2005 Lite SR3 (SR1 added 64bit support)
The software's not to blame, as there are millions of boards out there, can't expect the program to be able to decipher everything a board has to throw at it unless that info's already in it's user database. This board has a lot of temperature probes due to the fact all of it's BIOS settings are manual by default (exception of the drive settings) instead of Auto like others are. You can OC any part of this system with a mere touch of a button. I manually configured the BIOS settings for the 333 bus, 13x1, set the CPU voltage to 1.65, mem to 2.6. The AGP/PCI bus settings are separate in the BIOS, and can be modded as well....though I leave them at 66/33 respectively. Don't care to OC those!
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22. December 2005 @ 06:12 |
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I was just going by what was on the website at Jagged Online showing the different program comparisons. I'm using the Pro, so I've not been keeping up with any of the Lite updates. Looks like they'd change the comparison graph to reflect the change in the Lite app.
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22. December 2005 @ 07:01 |
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Yeah, I only use them after a fresh installation, or a new board to see if things are what they're supposed to be. Do a quick burn in test to check temps and fan settings...otherwise I don't usually keep bench tests installed.
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brobear
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22. December 2005 @ 07:15 |
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With the storage I have, a program like Sandra is just a drop in the bucket. I keep it around for "just in case". Plus it's a handy conversation piece here on the forums. LOL When we're talking comparisons and performance, it lets us measure with the same ruler. Having the free Lite version takes the cost factor out as well. With Lite being much the same as the retail, minus some bells and whistles, it's a good tool for most users.
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22. December 2005 @ 08:52 |
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I'm using the new lite version as well, it seems to have all the function that I need, and it's free.
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edward2
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22. December 2005 @ 15:30 |
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Intel will multitask (Hyperthreading):)
Amd sux at multitasking (HyperTransport):(
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22. December 2005 @ 15:48 |
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Intel will multi task (Hyper threading):)
Amd sux at multitasking (hyper transport):(
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Hyper threading involves a single CPU core emulating and acting as if it were two CPU's. Two CPU's doing CPU non intensive multi tasking/threading. But when an application is CPU intensive, hyper threading is worthless because it can't divide up what it doesn't have.
An AMD 64 bit blows Intel out of the water for 95% of real uses. Hyper threading is largely effective in an office word processing environment, but that's just about it.
hyper transport is something entirely different, It's about memory control or memory controller to be more exact. On the chip memory controllers are hot, AMD's got it but Intel does Not! They're two completely different things but for most functions Hyper Transport offers more speed.
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edward2
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22. December 2005 @ 17:36 |
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Yea I dont know that much I use to run a p4 3.2 I could game, listen to music. and burn a dvd at the same time My amd I have now does not seem to do that that well.
I know that amd is better for gaming not at multitasking
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22. December 2005 @ 17:41 |
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I know that amd is better for gaming not at multitasking
That's no longer true, Amd is winning in just about everything.
I'm sure your system is fine and AMD's really are better for gaming, and just about everything else too.
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edward2
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22. December 2005 @ 17:51 |
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Do you think if I went for a Dual core amd my multitasking would improve.I read that Intels dual core was not that good
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22. December 2005 @ 18:10 |
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Do you think if I went for a Dual core amd my multitasking would improve?
In all capital letters, YES!!!
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I read that Intels dual core was not that good
That's true for now, they will catch up. Intel came upon dual-core as an after thought.
AMD built their current core designs with dual-core in mind.
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edward2
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22. December 2005 @ 18:24 |
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AMD Athlon 64 3700+ Processor S939 San Diego 2.2GHZ 1MB L2 Cache 90NM OC 2.65GHz
DFI LANParty UT NF4 ULTRA-D Motherboard
OCZ Gold EL PC4000 2GB 2X1GB DDR500 CL3-4-4-8 184PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
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SONY 16X DVD / 40X CD-ROM DDU1621 INT IDE W/O SW
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2-SEAGATE 120GB 7200RPM IDE 8.5MS 8MB ATA100
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22. December 2005 @ 18:31 |
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edward2
You could use the usual Sisoft lite scores. That's what we all used. I have a preference for screen shots.
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22. December 2005 @ 18:41 |
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K will dl free version
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22. December 2005 @ 18:43 |
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Keep On!!
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