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13. February 2006 @ 17:32 |
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Hmm! Interesting, all that I can tell you is what I saw when you posted CPU-Z and I made an analysis based on that. Not all memory chips are equal even among a particular make. Have tried each set individually to see if that makes a difference?
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13. February 2006 @ 17:49 |
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@ Sophocles
Great suggestion and I will do that later tonight or tomorrow. I've gone through the bio several times now trying different combinations but no dice. I currently have the timings to 2.5-3-3-6 and it seems fine.
Thanks for your help. I will do just a couple of sticks at a time and see what happens. :)
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13. February 2006 @ 18:07 |
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Allof these sissoft sandra results are from sissoft sandr 2005.1.10.63 sr3? and how do you get the results on the forum. I would like to get soe opinuins how my computer is running from you guys?
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13. February 2006 @ 19:21 |
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Let's see, with better timing (though not what you expected), and a moderate OC, you're only 590 MB/s ahead of the stock setting on mine with the deplorable locked timing? Hardly worth the time and expense of a new mobo and heatsink/fan combo. Though I noticed your arithmetic score is noticably higher than at 3.4Ghz.
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By the way it is supposed to be 2-3-2-6
Or could the problem be that you don't see 2-3-2-6 anywhere in the timing?
With the ability to change settings, the C2 timing for the memory I have should be 2-3-3-6.
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13. February 2006 @ 19:42 |
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baltekmi
Earlier in the thread we went over doing captures in detail with theonejrs using screenshots (so the tags could be shown). PM him and see if he remembers what pages it was on or go back and review. I remember helping both theonejrs and rugripper. Theonejrs got the full explanation though, if what little memory I have is still working right.
The short story is use capture software, use web hosting such as imageshack to put the picture on the net, and use the img tags and syntax {from the message page) to link to the hosted image.
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13. February 2006 @ 19:49 |
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ScubaBud, Sophocles
Boy, I shouldn't snooze and then put in answers without rechecking the thread. You guys had discussed the topic before I woke up. LOL
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13. February 2006 @ 21:03 |
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Brobear...thanks
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14. February 2006 @ 00:45 |
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Dear me, I check this thread every time I can, and usually there's another whole page!
2-3-2-6 sounds like some pretty fast memory by the way, I've only got 3-3-3-8!
Do you think that could cause occasional jerks when playing games? Or is 1GB just not enough any more?
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14. February 2006 @ 01:09 |
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1GB is not enough anymore if you're using programs that are highly CPU and RAM intensive (encoding and games come to mind). Plus you appear to be using C3 memory; at least that's what the timing indicates; and then there's the timing. ;) So, it looks like you have a combination of things working against you.
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14. February 2006 @ 02:20 |
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That and it's £28 elixir RAM... £28 in autumn 2005. Hmmm, why couldn't I have just forked out the extra £30? Mind you, having said that, why didn't I fork out the extra £30 for a decent power supply, I'd be £100 richer due to the lack of the repair bill, and 240GB richer too.
Still, live and learn. I'm not making that mistake again.
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14. February 2006 @ 20:43 |
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I hope this does not offend anyone if I did it wrong. I am trying to figure all this on my own. Not to savy on the forum level. Well here are some of my results. from what i am reading more memory will help a lot. any suggestions welcomed
CPU-Z version 1.32.
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)
CPU#1 APIC ID = 0
Name Intel Pentium 4
Code Name Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 3 4
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Package mPGA-478
Core Stepping D0
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
CPU Clock Speed 3417.2 MHz
Clock multiplier x 16.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 213.6 MHz
Bus Speed 854.3 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 1024 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3417.2 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits
CPU#2 APIC ID = 1
CPU Name Intel Pentium 4 (logical unit)
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/
Motherboard model IC7/IC7-G(Intel i875P-ICH5), 1.0/1.1
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS revision 6.00 PG
BIOS release date 12/28/2004
Chipset Intel i875P rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801EB (ICH5) rev. 02
Sensor chip Winbond 15
FSB Select 800 MHz
Performance Mode enabled
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x
AGP Max Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled
Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 213.6 MHz
FSB:DRAM 1:1
CAS# Latency 2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Enhanced Memories DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Enhanced Memories DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
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14. February 2006 @ 21:22 |
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Baltekmi,
Brobears' not like that. He genuinely thought that I could help you. If you were sitting right here, I could explain it in about 2 min. Lets try this.
First you download Screen Grabber Pro. Just type it into any search engine and it will give you sources. Install it! Then do a search for ImageShack. Same thing, download and install. The Screen Grabber will snap a pic of whatever window you have on top. When you have an image you want to post, Go to Image shack and set up your account. Basicly you want to go to upload images and click browse to find an image. Host it and copy the first forums format by highlighting it, right click the mouse and left click copy.
To put it in your post you paste the copy into your post by right click and then paste. Remove by backspacing, the last [/IMG]. Change the remaining [/IMG] to img and change the last one to small letters as well. Now look down the url line till you see [IMG] and remove all the other stuff in front of it. When you are done click reply. I know this is a real simplified explaination but it's really that simple. I'll put something in this post doing things just like I said and it should work! Something like this
TA DA!!! As you can see by my Cat, it works! I actually wrote it as I was making this to send, so if you do things the same way, it should work fine for you too. The reason for the caps and the need to remove them is probably so it can be displayed properly.
Happy Computering
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14. February 2006 @ 23:28 |
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Lol computering, that's a new one!
Just to add my info on that, I've hosted images just using mspaint and then going straight to imageshack and uploading them, ignoring accounts and additional software.
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15. February 2006 @ 01:21 |
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A trial version of CaptureWiz is available at CNet's http://www.download.com/ . That's the one I use. There's others and even freeware. Some images have too much content to upload to imageshack, that's why I like being able to capture and save in multiple formats, including the lower content gif and png. Often I'll just load something on imageshack without opening an acct.
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15. February 2006 @ 01:36 |
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baltekmi
Starting at the top of page 39 and ending at the top of page 41, you'll find all the info needed for doing screen captures and posting them. I thought you said you spent hours reading the whole thread. Now we have to go back to school on reader comprehension. LOL Just yankin yer chain. Had I not wanted to help, I'd have stayed silent. After reviewing that material, if you have questions, just ask.
I'd forgotten where that material was. If you notice I had to do some of the instructions with captures because the tags are live in text. A photo capture works for explanations though. "1 picture is worth..." ;)
I also forgot, it wasn't theonejrs that got the $10 explanation, it was rugripper.
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15. February 2006 @ 14:10 |
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Brobear, scratch my question about HT enabled, I know the answer already based on your previous Sandra score.
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15. February 2006 @ 17:24 |
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funny you should say that about reading comprehension. my 5th grade teacher said the same:)
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16. February 2006 @ 03:14 |
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Okay, you have the the capture and everything done right till you create the AD message. You're not setting the img tags and syntax. Take the URL(s) you have and put them inside the img tags as shown in my examples and on the message page.
Remember img is in brackets.
Type or paste the complete url, such as http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7494/cpuz8sf.png
Next use /img (in brackets) to complete.
Exchanging img with xyz it will look like this.
[xyz]http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7494/cpuz8sf.png[/zyz]
You can copy that, paste it in the meassage box, and delete only xyz and type in img, click reply and you'll see how it works. img has to be in the brackets and the end one has to have the / Also no spaces. The syntax and tags has to be as in the examples.
If you use the img tags correctly, using http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7494/cpuz8sf.png
you get:
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Here are the AD tag and syntax examples from the message page (below is a screenshot):
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Tags and syntax are how we do
BOLD
italics
and Quote:
Quotes
as well as the images.
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16. February 2006 @ 05:26 |
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Very professional, brobear. Big hand for you!
There isn't sarcasm there, honest.
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16. February 2006 @ 06:50 |
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YES It was nice to to see that type of help.
Sincere thanks and I will get it right tonight or later today,
Thanks to all for the help!
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baltekmi
You're welcome.
Sammorris
Are you sure? LOL I appreciate the compliment. Thank you.
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