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Intel P4 vs AMD
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23. March 2006 @ 18:09 |
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Sophocles,
My mistake, I meant FX-55! I'll correct the post.
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23. March 2006 @ 19:20 |
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I believe sammorris was referring to the selected Prescott comparison results in your Sandra test, not my PC.
LOL I stand corrected. I wasn't paying attention. I just put Intel's latest in the comparison, not really thinking about it being a Prescott to show how the older tech was better than it's replacement. Thanks for posting the benches. Now I have a better view of how mine should be running when I finally get it assembled.
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23. March 2006 @ 20:52 |
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It is weird how my prescott seems to lose at all but the memory test
and check this out http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1158
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AMD and Intel both have new processors expected to utilize DDR2-800 before the Q4 launch of Windows Vista. By conservative estimates, we can expect to see the average system integrator bundle new computers with 1GB of DDR2-667 by the end of this year.
what you make of ths?
p-4 3.2 prescott HT curently at 3.6/Abit IC7-G (Abit rule!)/2 Gig Mushkin extream 2.5-2-2-6
LG 20.1 FLATRON WIDESCREEN/BFG 6800 ultra@450 mgz/2 wd raptor 150 raid/Ultra 500 watt Direct connet ps
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24. March 2006 @ 01:13 |
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It is weird how my prescott seems to lose at all but the memory test
That's like having gas in the tank and no engine to burn it.
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24. March 2006 @ 01:47 |
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1 Gig (2x512) Mushkin extream 2-2-2-6
My memory settings are 2.5-3-3-6
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24. March 2006 @ 06:01 |
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Oh and brobear had it right, I messed up
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24. March 2006 @ 19:07 |
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ScubaBud
and so right you are... that's actually the reality.
2-2-2-6=
2.5-3-3-6! I think i will wait to see how theINTRL kentsfield quad or the Cointreau chip come out next year before i even think about a rebuild.
p-4 3.2 prescott HT curently at 3.6/Abit IC7-G (Abit rule!)/2 Gig Mushkin extream 2.5-2-2-6
LG 20.1 FLATRON WIDESCREEN/BFG 6800 ultra@450 mgz/2 wd raptor 150 raid/Ultra 500 watt Direct connet ps
NZXT GUARDIAN CASE(BLUE)
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25. March 2006 @ 12:07 |
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Brobear,
I forgot to mention this. On my P4P800, running at the 5% setting my memory was running at 420MHz. Any raise in FSB speed over that dropped the memory speed to 320! Check your memory speed as I don't know if it would be the same for your CPU. While you can lock the memory speed, it still will change it if running at a given speed will hurt something! I can't wait to see how things work when you've OC'd 15 to 20%. It should rock!!!
Happy computering,
theonejrs
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25. March 2006 @ 12:52 |
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Might have something to do with the specific memory you're using. Above the 5% OC the memory may start to give errors and slow down.
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25. March 2006 @ 13:54 |
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amd's are trash and I would never buy garbage. there is a reason why amd's cost less than p4's. remember you get what you paid for garbage in garbage out.
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25. March 2006 @ 14:08 |
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I'd so ban you for that if i could.
Where's your evidence dude?
The top AMD CPU actually costs more than the top intel (FX-60 vs 955) and it's far faster as well.
Give me a benchmark supporting the idea that "AMDs are trash" and I may believe you. Go on, I dare you to try and find one.
I'm not slating intel CPUs much, they're pretty good, but neither brand is as you put it garbage.
If you've not anything useful to contribute, you're not welcome here. Try the safety valve forum.
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25. March 2006 @ 14:12 |
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amd's are trash and I would never buy garbage
Your PC could probably be driven by mouse shit and you wouldn't know the difference.
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there is a reason why amd's cost less than p4's
You can't add, subtract, multiply, or divide can you?
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remember you get what you paid for garbage in garbage out
Isn't that stupid is as stupid does? You ought to know.:)
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25. March 2006 @ 14:50 |
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another nOOb that needs to go out the door he came into
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25. March 2006 @ 16:31 |
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xterra458,
You have no idea what you are talking about do you? Not only that, you are dead wrong! I run an Intel P4 3.0 with a 20% OC. My next build will be an AMD. I'm tired of waiting for Intel to deliver something good! I'm tired of having to have enough fans to fly! AMDs are more efficient and run much cooler at lower speeds thanks to their being able to do more work in less clock cycles! Neither are trash but for now, the AMD is better, faster and more afordable. Check Sophocles' benchmarks a few pages back and see for yourself. I don't know of any Intel that can beat them!
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
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25. March 2006 @ 16:44 |
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Good evening folks.
It will be nice to get all the new Intel and AMD processors out so there is something more to compare and argue about.
Donald
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25. March 2006 @ 17:57 |
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LOL I agree. A noob shows up and makes a grandiose statement to arouse the regulars and it happens. This is a technical thread. Besides the innuendoes proffered, someone should have asked for proof.
@xterra458
What proof can you offer to support your assertion? "I think" doesn't count (or your cronies), you need some documented data from reputable sources.
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26. March 2006 @ 00:07 |
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A bleblerbelerbleerr!!!
Brobear said:
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Besides the innuendoes proffered, someone should have asked for proof.
Me, being the FIRST person to reply said:
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Where's your evidence dude?
I know we're just slating this guy because he's a n00b and many other less polite words, but you could have at least read what I said!
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26. March 2006 @ 00:39 |
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LOL I stand corrected, someone did ask for proof amongst the other statements. LOL We've yet to get a reasonable response to the request. ;) I suspect we won't. Just a noob trying to be a nuisance and succeeding.
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26. March 2006 @ 00:52 |
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Thanks for the input. I doubt I'll be seeing any 20% OC(ing) with this system. Just a feeling I have. I'll see how far it will go when I get the PSU. The way it is now, when I start cranking things up, the cheap PSU starts dropping the voltage. It was starting to drop below 11.5V on the 12V circuits, so you can imagine what was happening with the amperage draw. I don't want to smoke things, so I'll leave it at 5% for now.
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26. March 2006 @ 01:39 |
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That'd be best. Wait for your PSU replacement before going ahead.
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26. March 2006 @ 07:52 |
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Voltage=Amps X Ohms or V=IxR
Since a have a working knowledge of what that Law entails, I concur with your suggestion I'm following a prudent course of action. ;)
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26. March 2006 @ 08:19 |
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Brobear,
Question? Does your memory run at 420Mhz at the 5% setting? I'm curious because mine does. You will see it in the memory bandwidth test. When I scroll down it shows 420 Mhz, but only at that setting.
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
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26. March 2006 @ 09:07 |
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Yes, mine is the same speed (420MHz) at that OC percentage, 5%. Since the Speed is tied into Channels and FSB Speed, it makes sense it varies when frequencies are changed relative to the Bus and CPU.
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26. March 2006 @ 10:15 |
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Is 5% the absolute cut off point, theonejrs, or is it something random like 5.55%?
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26. March 2006 @ 10:20 |
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5, 10, 20% are automatic settings one can select with the ASUS boards. There's also a manual setting where various settings can be selected that will give percentages other than the presets. The presets aren't absolute because there can be a slight variance in the CPU frequency when set. Some of the setting involved are automatic and can change as needed.
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