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Arknight
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11. November 2005 @ 21:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey all me again, with a lot of help from this board I have backed up my library. All except two of my new games, and one sucks so it does not matter. The other though is Soul Calibur 3. I pulled it with DVD Decrypter and burned with ImgBurn. It loads up but i..t ....is ....c...h..oppy. So any suggestions on this one? I burned at a low speed and use RiDATA disks which have given me no problems yet. Please and thank you!
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12. November 2005 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How big is the iso and what method do you use to boot your backups?

Arknight
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12. November 2005 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Swapmagic 3.6 is what I use and its 4.08G for the iso file size
Arknight
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12. November 2005 @ 07:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this is not including the MDS file
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12. November 2005 @ 09:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The MDS file is like a .CUE file, it doesn't count towards image size (it's negligible in size, anyway).

Soulcalibur 3 works fine for me, so it's most likely a problem with the burn (I used Ridata discs myself). I'd suggest using Nero CDSpeed from www.cdspeed2000.com (run a disc quality test and a benchmark test) to determine what sort of burns you're getting. Below 280 PIEs and less than 32 PIFs (at ECC 8) are considered acceptable to readers, and the data transfer curve in the benchmark test should be smooth upward, without sharp dips.

If it's a bad burn, you might want to try burning at a higher speed -- say, 4x or even 8x (these give me better results than the lowest speeds). If it's a decent burn, then your PS2 laser may be acting up. I'd also suggest updating your burner's firmware, if you can.
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12. November 2005 @ 12:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. Q. How do I burn PS2 games?
A. Use DVD Decrypter. Guide: http://www.angelfire.com/games6/easytutorial/dvddec/dvddec.html Burn at 4x on an 8x DVD-R.
2. Q. Does the type of media I use matter?
A. YES: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/3/240341
If you're too lazy to read, use Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, Ritek, Sony, TDK, Maxell, Sony or Phillips DVD-R's. Avoid Memorex, Staples, Imation, etc.


kaga
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12. November 2005 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To: Tokijin

Yeah i have tried your tutorial and the burned backup still doesnt work http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/256406 if you would read this and and reply maybe you can help me and see what im doing wrong.. thanks alot and i would be greatly appreciative

Kagamu Tora
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12. November 2005 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you're still using Memorex DVD-R's or DVD-RW's in general, it's probably not going to work. The advice you got in the other thread was sound. You need to ditch the Memorex DVD-R's for any of the brands I mentioned and get rid of the DVD-RW's, they simply don't work well with the PS2. A 3 pack of DVD-R's isn't that expensive. That's it. There really isn't much more to it.

noob333
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29. November 2005 @ 15:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I backed up SC3 using the methods described on this forum on an HP 8x DVD-R and it works fairly well except I cant access the COTS RTS mode and there are some slow-ass load times when tryign to enter the Shop mode. Otherwise the fighting portion works fine.
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29. November 2005 @ 19:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could try rebuilding it or burning slower. What's the media code on those HP DVD-R's?

noob333
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30. November 2005 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im not exactly sure what you mean by media code but on the back there are 2 numbers: the one on the data side is: CMDR47G-CAEWMO4-019 then a space then 0406. The one in the center is: MAH692JC271439773. Not sure if this helps.
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30. November 2005 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Open DVD Decrypter. Then put your burned game in your DVD-ROM drive. Under manufacturer ID, there will be an ID listed. Post what that says.

noob333
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30. November 2005 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahhh ok. It says: CMC MAG. AE1
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30. November 2005 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah those are crap. Try something better. You can pick up gold Maxell DVD-R's in a blue wrapper at Wal-Mart. Those should have media code Ritek G05, decent stuff. Those should work okay.

noob333
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10. January 2006 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
UPDATE

I just got a 3 pack of those gold Maxells in the ble wrap from Wal-mart with teh media code : Ritek G05. I tried burning my SC3 image at 4x to the disk and when i tried to load it with SM it flashed blue like it was going to load but then just went to the PS2 browser screen. I tried several times. Should i try burning it at a differetn speed?

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10. January 2006 @ 16:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could speed it up or slow it down slightly. Is your burner in DMA mode? http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/FAQ.htm

noob333
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10. January 2006 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man I just burned the same image with another of the Maxells, this time at 2X instead of 4 and it works like a charm. The title loads more quickly and I have no trouble accessing the RTS mode or the Shop. Thanks Tokijin for passing on the knowledge and helping me out bro.
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10. January 2006 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No prob. Glad you got it working. Enjoy.

Schiavone
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16. January 2006 @ 04:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't mislead other people into thinking Memorex is bad media. I just don't understand why people think Memorex is bad media. It is the best media I have ever used. I have tons of backups on Memorex DVD-RW disks and they all run perfectly.
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16. January 2006 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You have backups of PS2 games on Memorex DVD-RW discs? First off the PS2 doesn't read DVD+/-RW's well at all. Secondly, even if does, RW's put a ton of unecessary strain on the PS2 laser, meaning it'll burn out your laser ASAP. Memorex is crap media. They mostly use CMC Mag as their manufacturer. CMC Mag is God Awful Garbage. If you require proof: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/262544

Newbies pls see this, cheapy media is BAD.........- http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/193298

These are from Creaky's sig. He was an AD addict, now he's a moderator. He know's a thing or two about media:
..Memorex/CMC - don't let them near your Burner...7 links so far...-
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/153975
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/195438
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/216589
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/229685
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/232406
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/233359
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/243171

Further proof: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

Schiavone
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17. January 2006 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jees, dont get so up tight. I am very good wih modding and computers and other things like that. I was simply stating that you can use Memorex media because I do it flawlessly.
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17. January 2006 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not getting uptight. If Memorex works for you, great keep using it. DVD-RW's are horrible for the PS2, if it reads them at all. Memorex is shite media in general. They outsource their media to several different manufacturer's including CMC Magnetics. CMC Mag is garbage as shown by all those links. I'm not giving you a hard time, but there's several things in your post that some noob could read and get confused easily. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Memorex is crap. Anybody who is new to PS2 backups should use Verbatim's or Taiyo Yuden's. Never use DVD-/+RW's with the PS2. Always use high quality DVD+/-R's.

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woody990
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17. January 2006 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey i just wanted to know if my disc was burned good check out my results from nero cd-dvd speed reader

General Information
Drive: SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A
Firmware: YYS2
Disc: DVD+R (RITEK R03)
Selected speed: 6 X
PI errors
Maximum: 21
Average: 6.59
Total: 50767
PI failures
Maximum: 8
Average: 0.45
Total: 7124
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 9:29
Number of samples: 79667
Average scanning interval: 1.16 ECC
Glitches removed: 0

this is kingdom hearts anyway but it dosent work..it looks good but i wanna hear what you guys say about my disc test

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17. January 2006 @ 21:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's not bad at all. How does it play?

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woody990
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17. January 2006 @ 21:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kinda loads slow and it freezes when i start a new game
 
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