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papaboy
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16. December 2005 @ 08:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I usually purchase my drives on-line. How can I determine if a particular brand and/or model is rebadged?
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16. December 2005 @ 14:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What brand drive are purchasing? Some company's use more than one manufacturer to make their drives. Ex. I bought an I/O Magic drive at staples in Feb., it is a rebadged BTC drive. Another member here bought the same brand in May and it was a rebadged BenQ.

NEC, BenQ, Lite-On, LG, and Pioneer will most likely be as marked.


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16. December 2005 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@LOCOENG

Got that same rebadged I/O Magic from CompUsa, it is a BTC and I got the USB one which I sent back because it crashed my computer got a second one and it did the same thing. It has a crappy chipset in the enclosure. You are right on those brands, even Plextor has come out with their lower priced model which is a rebadged BenQ 1640. And Sony's are rebadged Lite-ons.


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16. December 2005 @ 15:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My first burner 3 years ago was a TDK 440n. I bought it because it was the only one at Fry's Electronics with a black bezel that matched my computer. I only found out it was a rebadged NEC 1300A when I was looking for firmware upgrades.
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16. December 2005 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have one of those NEC 1300a drives it was the first one I bought, still use it. It only burns at 4x but has done over 1000 burns it is a real workhorse.


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16. December 2005 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
At this website you can research a particular burner and the results will indicate whether it is rebadged model of another burner. http://www.videohelp.com/
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16. December 2005 @ 15:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ arniebear:
Do you know of any hacked firmware for that NEC 1300A that will allow for Bitsetting/Booktype changing? Leggy & Dee NEC hacks don't go back that far.
That burner works as good today as it did three years ago. I haven't tried any 16X media in there, but 8X has no problem with 1.0c firmware.
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@arniebear

LOL...I know yours is a BTC too, you and either saugmon or car.mike, maybe both helped me with it when I first came to AD. I have since moved on to an NEC 3540A and love it.

I actually had Plextor typed in and remembered that BenQ was making drives for them now.


Thanks for the help again if I didn't say it the first time. LOL


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You are welcome, I got nothing good to say about BTC, I try to be kind and bite my tongue, but arghhhhhhh they are cheap!!!!!!!!


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16. December 2005 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Even BenQ seems to have gotten in on the rebadging thing ... The BenQ DQ60 and the Plextor PX750A are both made by Teac ...

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16. December 2005 @ 16:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HUH???


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17. December 2005 @ 05:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@StanH1000

Yeah, that site is pretty thorough!!!

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17. December 2005 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
At this time I am undecided, but want to avoid buying a "pig in the poke" as it were. I now use 2 burners--an NEC and an I/O, and am in need of a third. I'm curious enough to pull the drives, if necessary, to determine the manufacturer. Will that do it or is there an easier way. Can I do it with Nero toolkit?
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17. December 2005 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Look up your drive a rpc1.org using the information given to you in DVD Decrypter


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17. December 2005 @ 09:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Please bear with me--where am I supposed to be looking in DVD Decrypter? I see the name and model # of the drive in the source window--is that what I'm supposed to search for in rcp1.org?
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17. December 2005 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes...also under the tools drop down menu, you can go to drive->capabilities. Or under the tools menu->druve->search for firmware.


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17. December 2005 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Will that do it or is there an easier way?
The link in my profile is a good start...

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18. December 2005 @ 05:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for your patience LOCOENG. Followed your instructions and here is what I got from rpc1.org. If I'm reading this correctly, there are 3 companies that manufactured this model drive.


Your search string is: _NEC ND-3500AG

The results are as follows:

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:31 pm NEC ND-3500A
NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG - 2.16, 2.18, 2.19, 2.1A / 2.06 / 2.58 (Packardbell OEM) / 2.88 (fujitsu OEM) / 2.FA, 2.FD (Mad Dog OEM)
Beta Region Free (RPC-1) firmware is available here. Patched by The Dangerous Brothers.
RPC-2

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Edited by: Arzeno Last update: Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:39 am


Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:07 pm Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9
Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9 - 2.F6, 2.F8, 2.F9, 2.FA
Beta region free, (RPC-1) firmware is available here. Patched by The Dangerous Brothers.
Firmware 2.F8 allows full bitsetting capabilities for both single layer and double layer DVD+R media as well as DVD+RW discs.
OEM NEC ND-3500AG
RPC-2

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Edited by: dhc014 Last update: Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:25 am
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18. December 2005 @ 07:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like you've got an NEC drive there. Now all you have to determine is what the drive says on the face et al Mad dog, Packard Bell etc. Then you just update to the newest firmware listed for that manufacturer.


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18. December 2005 @ 07:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will try it and thanks again.
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18. December 2005 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem and good luck.


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19. December 2005 @ 04:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Even BenQ seems to have gotten in on the rebadging thing ... The BenQ DQ60 and the Plextor PX750A are both made by Teac ...
Oh CRAP!

Get burned as you learn.

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19. December 2005 @ 04:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stay with NEC and avoid the whole rebadging game.
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19. December 2005 @ 06:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess I will return the drive if it's already been shipped. If not I am going to cancel the order and reorder the NEC 3550a. Opinions please.

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19. December 2005 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
9mmruger1,

If possible cancel your order and go with the benq DW1620 or DW1640 as these are the real thing and are bitsetting ready and will work with Nero scan disc.

The NEC has to be flashed with hacked f/w in order to bitset DVD5 DVD+R media and I don't think they will work with Nero scan disc.

You get the best of all worlds with benq 1620's and 1640's. Inexpensive, bitsetting ready, and you can scan your burned disc's.

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