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3. July 2006 @ 15:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wait a couple weeks and you can get the AMD 3800x2 for 169.00 dollars ,dual-core is the way to go

i would go with the CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 433(PC 3200) with that mobo
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rick5446,

O.K. First off I wouldn't buy the MB you chose. I was going to but was strongly advised by several people who's opinion I respect in another forum, not too! Yeah, I know it looks pretty with the copper and all but it has been a very troublesome MB in terms of the bios and the difference in performance between it and the A8N-SLI isn't worth the price to get a couple more frames per second!

You would be better off doing it like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103531
Add the case and you get a total of $335 with free shipping!

You wind up with a better and faster computer for less money!!

Better yet, wait until July 24 when the advertised 30 to 50% price cuts come from AMD and you can have at least a x2 3800+ Dual-Core for less money than what you posted! Of course it's your choice but I like getting more for less!

Happy Computering,
theone



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theonejrs..aabbccdd..Thanks for your input,I guess I'll wait for the Dual-Core
Any suggestions on a Case,and Powersupply

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Antec cases are really nice same with the power supply Antec-True Power being a very good PS i would go with at least the 480watt iam running the 550 watt
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rick5446,
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Any suggestions on a Case,and Powersupply
The price range on cases is so wide, it depends a lot on what you want to spend. Take a look here:www.geeks.com as they have a pretty wide range of prices. You will laugh but I only paid $25 for my case, and it's Identical to the one it replaced, only black. When I built my new one I stuck with what I knew worked well. Since my MB temps stay at 35 to 37C pretty much constant, it does a good job of getting the heat out of it.

Power supplies are another subjective thing. I got aomewhat criticised for using a $45 500 watt Aspire TurboLink power supply, yet it works well and I've load tested it. It's not the best in the world but it has decent quality inside of it, has Dual 12v rails and it works well for me.

Here's a pic of my case



I like it and it has a door with LEDs covering the drives.

Happy computering,
theone


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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Hey Guys,

I was thinking of adding another pair of 3200c2pt 512's to the Asus/Prescott build,will the additional two sticks have any adverse effects in memory speed or timing?I ask this because on some boards the memory will only run @333mhz with 4 modules in place.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Latest Build-Asus P4P800SE,Intel Prescott 3.0/800 w/ht oc'd to 3.6(stable),2x512 Corsair Twinx 3200c2pt,Coolermaster Cavalier case,
2xMaxtor 200 gb.Ide h/d's,Gigabyte Geforce 6600GT,Thermaltake 450w psu and Creative Sb live audio.

Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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Boxwrench,

No worries about that. Your P4P800-SE runs all the memory at the correct speed. Usually if the speed lowers, it's because there are only 3 memory slots and pairs are required to run PC3200 at 400 MHz. Check Newegg as they have Kingston cas2 memory on sale in a 1 MB kit for about $92!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144114

Happy Computering,
theone


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theonejrs,
Thanks for the info,I saw that sale at Newegg. I already have the Corsair,it's on loan in the wife's computer until I get my Rma for the G-skill ram I bought for her(had 1 bad stick). I should be receiving that before the weekend.Gotta love Newegg and I think they love me too...I've spent over 4 grand there in the last 12 months!

Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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My case,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

and my power supply,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103941

I've been extremely pleased with both, no complaints and no hesitation in recommending them :)



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Hey Neph,
That's one beautiful case,I almost got the silver tsunami for my AMD build but I got this one instead.The reviews were not too good because nobody could figure out the 4 zone fan controls...their loss!It was $30.00 cheaper when I got it.>http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?Item=N82E16811...

This is the case I bought for the Prescott upgrade,the price was right and it's not hard on the eyes either.>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119075

I, like you would recommend either one...no complaints here.

Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.

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aabbccdd,
Yeah,that sure looks good,I bet it keeps things nice and cool inside. That power supply location is different but I'm sure it's effective!

Main System- Amd/64 3800x2 currently@ 2.5ghz. Asus A8N-E,win.xp-pro.4x1gb.Ocz platnium ddr 400,Maxtor 40gb.& 250gb.ide & 2x W.D.250 sata,Benq 1650V dvd Reader & Benq DW-1655 Writer,EVGA Geforce 7600gs,Creative Audigy-LS,Antec 750w psu. Vizio 37"hdtv monitor 1360x768@75hz.
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My case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811146017

My PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817128002

I have never seen a better looking case than the Lexa, I'm still waiting! A bit of UV, a bit of LED and it looks the business, runs incredibly cool AND quiet and goes like stink! Even with an X2 processor and X1900XT Graphics, two things that put out huge amounts of heat, it runs at about 47C CPU and 35C case full whack.



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actually my system is running hot as hell 46c at idle its got problems i have to figure out,i had to take the side off it and put a floor fan on it to cool it down somethings wrong the memorey was running 46c also way to high
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How's your case ventilation, and how do you check memory temperature???



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with the asus probe(software) that came with the mobo

it has a front fan blowing air to the rear the Zalman cooling the Opteron blowing to the back and the rear fan blowing out ,the memoreys the main problem running way to hot

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Hmm I don't remember seeing RAM in PC probe but maybe I just wasn't looking.



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aabbccdd,

Did you ever install the other case fan? I hate to ask dumb questions but is there a power supply fan on the bottom sucking in air? I noticed the power supply location and the power supply is upside down which is just the opposite of a top mounted PS.

Theone


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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remember this is with the side open and a floor fan blowing into the case
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Russ going to do it weds. do you think i can add another case fan inside it? the memorey running hot is the main problem
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If there's a slot for one, add one!
Ah I see why I didn't get RAM temperature, I haven't installed AiBooster, only PC Probe.Is it worth it?



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yeah i like it you can do a 10% OC with the booster without going into the bios
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Hmm, with a prebuild with a warranty and all that I may put that off for a while, it's fast enough for me as it is!



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sammorris,

I wasn't aware that there was any seperate temp sensor for memory. It would take 4 sensors to give you any meaningful information as the slots are too far apart to share a pair.

aabbccdd,

Now that's one fine looking desktop! A lot of class!

Happy Computering,
theone

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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Hmm, yeah, slot 1 & 3, there is indeed a reasonable gap.



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