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4. July 2006 @ 00:56 |
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thanks Russ she would do in a pinch huh lol.
i will get this system cooled down soon, iam NOT OC(ing) till i do
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4. July 2006 @ 01:01 |
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I don't blame you! Which system is this, the Denmark?
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4. July 2006 @ 01:04 |
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yes the system i have in my sig is up to date
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4. July 2006 @ 01:06 |
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Hmm, odd, because that should be similar thermally to mine. Your 7800GTX will stuff out tonnes of heat but it should end up outside not inside...
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4. July 2006 @ 02:29 |
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sammorris,
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Hmm, odd, because that should be similar thermally to mine. Your 7800GTX will stuff out tonnes of heat but it should end up outside not inside...
I guess when he puts the other fan in, we will see if it makes a difference!
I've been looking at the design of the airflow and it just doesn't make much sense to me. I do a little playing around with airflow once in a while, so I know a little bit about it. I even designed a "reverse" chimney" in my old case with a 92mm fan to pull hot air away from the drives on my Prescott. There's a 1" opening at the top of the chimney that allows any heat at the top of the case to be pulled along with the heat from the drives. You can touch the case anywhere except directly above the power supply and it is cool to the touch. Must work! I didn't put one in this case because it doesn't seem to need it with the lower temps of the Presler. The motherboard temps only vary a couple of degrees, unless I let the room get too hot, then everything goes up. This things been on for almost 18 hours and the CPU is 30C and the MB is a solid 35C, so the heat's not hanging around. MB temps never vary more than a couple of degrees regardless of what the CPU temp is. My memory's now locked at 400 so it's running at 476MHz, which upped the Mb temp 2 degrees. with the memory running at 396MHz, Idle temp for the CPU was 29C with the MB at 34C. Running fully loaded at 100% CPU usage the CPU hits 47 to 50C, but the MB never goes over 37C, so I guess I have it right! Since my machine is overclocked 20%, I'm very happy with the temps! Like I said, it's a cheap case but I like it a lot.
One more thing I want to point out. Most Case manufacturers that supply fans with their products try and get away with the quietest fans they can (looks good in the specs), but not always the best all around choice. My 120mm on the back is rated at 53cfm, which moves a lot of air but at 2500rpm is a bit loud. I have it running at 1950rpm, but because of the aggressive fan blade, it's quieter but still moves a lot of air. Most company installed 120mm fans are in the 30 to 35cfm range, which is much quieter but don't move near as much air. Your MB temps will tell you a lot. If the CPU temp goes up and the MB goes up with it steadily as the CPU temp increases then the heat is not being removed from the case very well. With good airflow, the MB temp shouldn't vary very much (thank you Brobear). Fully loaded, the CPU temp should be much higher than the MB temp. A good 10 degrees higher or more! Mine averages 13 degrees higher when fully loaded.
Well Sir, it's almost 3:30 AM so I'm off to bed. Have a happy 4th!
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
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4. July 2006 @ 02:33 |
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And you mate (it actually means something to you!) The fans on my system are low-CFM low-noise fans, granted, but they're still more than adequate, and I'd sooner they be that way, they run off the 7V rail rather than just spin at a low speed with 12V.
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4. July 2006 @ 04:41 |
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aabbccdd- we have nearly the same build, I'd say only difference is case, PSU, and opticals (which really dont count because yer talking heat)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811196019
I mounted my hard drives to not block the airflow of the front 140mm turbine fan, and added the 2 80mm fans on the clear side panel and I get 5-8°C less than you on average. The only time I reached those temps were after 3 hours of DOOM3. Thats why I havent really OC'D much, the temps already reached a certain level under stress.
I don't like that AI booster either, not a true overclock (being able to control exactly what yer doing) and found my games and certain applications hung up on me with it applied. I like the PCProbe app tho.
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4. July 2006 @ 04:46 |
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Yeah, an automatic OC is a nice idea, but at the end of it you really want to be able to do everything manually, it would save a lot of hassle.
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4. July 2006 @ 09:00 |
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Russ i probably need better case fans than the stock ones that came with this case, the harddrives (two of them) are directly in front of the front fan which has to cause a problem,i will take some pics of the inside of the case today and post them that will give you guys more insight to get this baby cooled down ,running the damn thing with the side off it and a floor fan is def. a pain in the butt
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4. July 2006 @ 09:40 |
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ok heres some internal shots of the case maybe this will help
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4. July 2006 @ 09:44 |
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ok Russ or anyone pass on any ideas!!! to get this baby to run cooler i dont see anywhere i can add another fan inside
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4. July 2006 @ 10:05 |
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Short of a side case fan I don't either...
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4. July 2006 @ 10:09 |
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aabbccdd,
The only thing I noticed is that the CPU cooler doesn't seem straight. Other than that the only thing I can think of is a higher CFM fan. Very nice by the way!
Happy Computering,
theone
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4. July 2006 @ 10:11 |
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While I'm at it, I may as well post one pic of how I manage my somewhat lower temperatures.
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4. July 2006 @ 10:19 |
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its straight its just the angel of the pic
i will add the fan to the outside back of the case as i said and check on the thermal compound used on the CPU with the Zalman
and can you get more rpms out of the case fans i have (front and back) or do i need to get different fans?
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4. July 2006 @ 10:21 |
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Shot with flash (i.e. totally messes with lighting, but shows off cooling better):
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4. July 2006 @ 10:23 |
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4. July 2006 @ 10:26 |
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Okay I'm done spamming aD with photos of my girlfriend now!
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4. July 2006 @ 10:53 |
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aabbccdd,
Yeah, I thought it might be the angle. Maybe a higher CFM fan is the answer. I don't know what I would do. I guess I would try a fan like I have on mine which is 53cfm. Sorry I can't think of anything else. You might change your desktop! She's pretty hot!!LOL
Happy Computering,
theone
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4. July 2006 @ 11:24 |
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thanks for all the help Russ i def. have enough info to get the temps. down i hope
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4. July 2006 @ 11:25 |
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Thing is you're running a fanless 32-SLi board which really want two case fans, since you've only the one, and you have an internally exhausting graphics card, you need more case fans than that case fits. One at the side at GPU level would go down well. 7800GTXs put out mahoosive amounts of heat for inside-case ventilation.
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4. July 2006 @ 11:30 |
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yeah sammorris one on the side like you have would def. help
your right that card 7800GTX runs hot
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4. July 2006 @ 11:33 |
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if I remember rightly, the 7800GTX isn't far off the X1900XT's heat output, and I think the later 512MB overclocked version was about the same. For a card of its power, the 7800GTX is one hot chip! Most case side fans seem to be mounted in the middle of the window, but the Lexa's is mounted lower down and nearer the back so it's in the optimal place to cool a graphics card. That may be why my GPU fan doesn't spool up to high speed in gaming.
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4. July 2006 @ 11:33 |
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theonejrs..Actually I'm looking for a Mid to MAX tower that will hold & run 6 Harddrives[250gig ea] as I do a lot of Video
Right now I've got a Mini W/4 externals,I've already had to replace 2 of the externals cases within the last 18mons.I use the 5 1/2"ADS cases which are a little expensive.So I figure a new cs with a proper Power supply will do a better job,as my mini has been going for 3yrs
So I do appreciate everybodies help & I do heed what all do say,even though some just give name brands.but not specific models
Even w/name brds U have so many choices
THANKS
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4. July 2006 @ 11:37 |
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Absolutely. The typical case has 5 slots for hard disks if you have a floppy disk drive, 4 if both FDD and MCR that use separate slots because they usually have 2 externally visible and 4 internals.
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