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21. March 2007 @ 08:43 |
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But the freezer 7's a light cooler, so I don't see why that'd happen.
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21. March 2007 @ 09:09 |
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520g isn't exactly light in comparison to the stock cooler. The big Zalmans don't weigh much more and they come with a weight warning, or used to. What's the allowable weight for your board before the cooler is considered overweight?
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21. March 2007 @ 09:09 |
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Sammorris,
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No, the P5 is fine so far, touch wood, Although the fact that my Freezer 7 Pro fell off in transit when it was properly secured concerns me a bit. One thing I've noticed though, the chipset heatsink gets really hot. It's good that the heatsink gets hot rather than just the chip, but nonetheless for such a big heatsink, to not be able to hold my finger on it seems a bit excessive!
I'm unclear if your cooler fell off while you were transporting it or in shipping. My personal rule of thumb for transporting mine is to lay it on it's side with the CPU cooler up. That way up and down movement doesn't shake it loose. There's a fair amount of weight sticking out so that if your computer was moved standing upright I can understand why it happened.
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21. March 2007 @ 09:19 |
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Hmm perhaps, but it never happened with my Zalman. Besides, I thought being Aluminium, the Freezer 7 would be light in comparison to the copper Zalmans, perhaps not.
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21. March 2007 @ 09:41 |
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The Freezer is 520g and the Zalman 9700 is about 760. If I remember right, both are over the weight limit and require care in handling. The Zalman you had uses a screw down mounting system. The Freezer doesn't and is more prone to coming loose due to vibration. Plus, as theonejrs mentioned, the design has the weight is well above the board causing inertial forces to exert more strain on the mount. Theonejrs is right about the preferred position to transport, case on it's side with the cooler up.
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21. March 2007 @ 10:08 |
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is it possible that the press down locking clip things weren't twisted fully away from the open position? as i noticed last time i refitted mine that they came away very easily when only half twisted, never mind fully twisted to open?
i toaly agree with russ about moving the tower, even if im just moving it to the table for a bit of cleaning i hold it on the side so the mobo is at the bottom. i wouldnt like to conceive the inertial forces on the mobo/hsf in play during a car or van journy.
pacmans right to about the fitting, its probably not the most secure in the world, but it is very easy to fit, which in comparison to some others (which have made me bleed before now) is a bonus in my book.
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21. March 2007 @ 10:34 |
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The other thing you could do is cut a piece of foam/polystyrene to the correct size to fit inside the case so it sits under the heatsink and takes all the weight when its moved.
The idea of removing the heatsink would soon p me off when reapplying heatsink compound, and lying it on its side although ideal, can sometimes be awkward with other stuff in the car.
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21. March 2007 @ 11:02 |
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Originally posted by BigDK:
The other thing you could do is cut a piece of foam/polystyrene to the correct size to fit inside the case so it sits under the heatsink and takes all the weight when its moved.
The idea of removing the heatsink would soon p me off when reapplying heatsink compound, and lying it on its side although ideal, can sometimes be awkward with other stuff in the car.
To each his own BigDK. I've not even moved my system out of the house since I built it. Many people don't. I've got plenty of room in my vehicles, so I can lay a PC on its side if I want or need to for a short move. With something like a Mini Cooper there might be room constraints. ;) No more than I move my PC and with the cooler a snap off item, all I need to worry about is the compound. That is a quick cleanup with alcohol and a clean install. I've got it down and it only takes a few minutes. It's not like it's some big deal. Then I can stand the case any way I want it and go cross country without fear of damaging anything, hitting holes and slamming on my brakes along the way.
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21. March 2007 @ 12:15 |
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Well its only an idea.
I have a large people carrier, so room isn't an issue for me either.
As I'm using a water cooling setup, moving it about isn't something I'd do anyway, too many pipes, fans and a bloody great radiator, along with my external res isn't something I would want getting knocked about.
I already have a wonderful invention that solves my PC portability problems, it's called a laptop!
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21. March 2007 @ 13:13 |
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BigDK,
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As I'm using a water cooling setup, moving it about isn't something I'd do anyway, too many pipes, fans and a bloody great radiator, along with my external res isn't something I would want getting knocked about.
BTW! Regarding that picture of the big radiator. You didn't "borrow" it from PackMan777's Mini Cooper did you? ROFL That thing looks huge!
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The other thing you could do is cut a piece of foam/polystyrene to the correct size to fit inside the case so it sits under the heatsink and takes all the weight when its moved.
I considered doing that when I ship this next customer build to Chicago, but I'm going to let them install the Arctic 7 Pro. I'll borrow mine from my computer and use it for set-up. Everything else should ship well in the Cooler Master box as it's exceptionally sturdy and well made!
Happy Computering,
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21. March 2007 @ 13:15 |
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Lol well indeed, but it's not quite the same for me as a gamer. Don't much fancy splashing out on a gaming laptop, especially when they're not as upgradable.
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21. March 2007 @ 14:58 |
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BigDK
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I already have a wonderful invention that solves my PC portability problems, it's called a laptop!
Excellent invention and I think everyone should have one. But for users who want more speed and power at a reasonable cost, the desktops are a better solution. You have those like Sammorriss off to the university, who want the performance of a larger PC. He's not moving everyday, but more than most of us (a few times a year). I wish I had your moving problems. I've not moved to liquid cooling yet.
What this has to do with AMD vs Intel I'll never know. ;)
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21. March 2007 @ 15:04 |
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A Mini radiator might work good for PC cooling, but I don't have one, nor do I ever plan on owning one. They're too small for my taste. If I was given one, it would be on the auction block immediately. I'd use the money to buy a good C2D to whip up on the AMDs. LOL Finally worked back toward the thread topic. ;) If AMD would unleash their new secret weapon, I might buy one of those to whip up on Intels. LOL I'm a equal opportunity offender. LOL
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21. March 2007 @ 15:04 |
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the hsf fittings on the amd would of failed alot quicker with its 2 mounting holes whereas the intels 4 can do almost twice the distance in the back of a transit.
sorry :)
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21. March 2007 @ 15:05 |
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That my AMD heatsink didn't fall off, and my Intel one did? Suppose that's more Arctic vs Zalman though.
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21. March 2007 @ 15:12 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
That my AMD heatsink didn't fall off, and my Intel one did? Suppose that's more Arctic vs Zalman though.
I'd just think design flaw. I liked the earlier Zalman design that screwed down. If you noticed, the 9700 uses a latch type design that has a clip. It works good, but I wouldn't want to be transporting it very much, both the clip and weight. The aluminum Zalman you had was a different design and lighter and more sturdy for a system needing to be moved around. Being more a mid level model, it doesn't have the extra cooling of one of the bigger units, but it does a good job.
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21. March 2007 @ 15:17 |
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I should say so, I've never seen the X2 get to 50C, and that's a hot CPU too.
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21. March 2007 @ 15:24 |
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PackMan77,
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A Mini radiator might work good for PC cooling, but I don't have one, nor do I ever plan on owning one.
I was sure you didn't! I was just funnin with BigDK! LOL!!!
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21. March 2007 @ 15:34 |
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I was just funnin with BigDK! LOL!!!
And I was just funnin with you and saw a chance to poke fun at being OT so much. ;)
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21. March 2007 @ 17:58 |
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PackMan777,
Guilty, as charged!
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22. March 2007 @ 02:06 |
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I'm not trying to charge anyone. It's not my place. We've all been guilty of the same. It's just rare to find this thread on topic anymore. I blame that on AMD for not giving us more and better toys. There needs to be some vs for AMD vs Intel to exist. LOL
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22. March 2007 @ 14:07 |
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I got my 640!!!! Yay!
It's already noticeably faster than my 541 but about the same as my 2.8 Northwood(salutes the Northwood.)
3.6 stable. 3.92 max before overheat.
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And I have to again commend theonejrs on for recommendation on the Gigabyte board. It has taken all the changes SOOO well!
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23. March 2007 @ 20:51 |
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How good would this Computer be performance wise:
3.4ghz Intel Pentium D
2048mb DDR2
Geforce FX5500 256mb AGP 8x
300gb S-ATA
would it be able to run more modern games? Like Flight Simulator X?
and the FX5500 is a crap card whats a card i could get under 200au which is better then the FX5500?,
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23. March 2007 @ 20:55 |
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23. March 2007 @ 20:56 |
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couple of the best cards for the money now is a nvidia 7600GS for around $75 US and a 7600GT. can be had for around $100 US.
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you had 7600GT fisrt instead of 7600GS and you were right.
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