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Intel vs. AMD
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25. March 2007 @ 00:00 |
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I hope you are right cause i would have alot more options for newer graphic cards.
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PacMan777
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25. March 2007 @ 00:49 |
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Are you building a PC or buying one?
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25. March 2007 @ 00:53 |
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buying.
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PacMan777
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25. March 2007 @ 01:11 |
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You should be able to look up the brand and model to see what they were built with, unless it's a purchase from a custom shop. What are you thinking about buying, brand and model?
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25. March 2007 @ 01:17 |
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Its a custom shop one.
It comes in this case
and has
Intel Pentium D 3.4ghz
2gb DDR2 ram
300gb 10,000rpm S-ATA HDD
Geforce FX5500 256mb but im 100% sure i will upgarde to a 7600 or 7800 or 7900
5.1 sound card
and comes with
Logitech wirless desktop (Keyboard + mouse) with charger
5.1 logitech speakers
*19* inch Benq LCD DVI
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25. March 2007 @ 01:49 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
you can easily buy a motherboard with those specs for less than that, but not with a processor, or if you did it'd have to be the slowest one there is. A budget for a decent motherboard and dual core CPU is about £200 or so.
Originally posted by PacMan777:
ASUS is one of the more user friendly boards for the beginner, plus depending on the choice, has enough options for the more advanced custom builders. Gigabyte is another quality product. Look over the choices and go for the one which best suits your needs. Those 2 brands are proven winners. There's other good boards, but some like Lan Party will accept extreme settings that can more easily damage a system. Overclock an ASUS and you normally get a shutdown if set too high. Do the same with a Lan Party and you often get smoke. Smoke is the most important component in a PC. When the smoke boils out of a computer, it's usually a goner. ;)
Currently the Intel Core 2 Duo processors are the best for the money. Match one with a good Asus board that supports the CPU and you have the makings for a good system. ... or Gigabyte... or
ok i will go with an asus mobo, but i will have to get the PCD elsewhere then. can anyone recomend me one for mobo and PCD for £150?
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25. March 2007 @ 02:31 |
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What's a PCD?
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25. March 2007 @ 02:39 |
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Goggle says
Payload Correction Data
God knows what that is i doubt he means that.
or
Immotile Cilia Syndrome
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Kodak's PhotoCD
dam google.
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PacMan777
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25. March 2007 @ 02:48 |
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How about PussyCat Dolls? LOL
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25. March 2007 @ 02:50 |
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I think he means Processor cause he said he will buy the Asus Mainboard and buy the PCD else where and the CPU is the only other thing he needed?
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25. March 2007 @ 03:49 |
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I assume so, but I'm curious as to what PCD could actually stand for. In any case, a CPU and motherboard for £100 would mean a single core. In fact, having said that, you can now buy an X2 4200+ and recent motherboard with decent features for £120 + delivery, but as we know, X2s aren't really cutting edge any more.
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25. March 2007 @ 04:01 |
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X2s aren't really cutting edge any more
But arent they AMD's flagship CPU right now the top performance one?
What is cutting edge besides the core 2?
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25. March 2007 @ 04:24 |
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Nothing, but that's the point. Core 2 Duos are so much faster that they're seen as the only CPUs to have at the moment. An E4300 which hasn't been overclocked to anywhere near its maximum potential is significantly faster than my X2 4200+, and that's the most basic model.
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25. March 2007 @ 08:45 |
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Crowy,
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I read about that as well. Seems theonejrs helped that board along by jacking the voltage settings higher than they should have been while those around him were warning of the impending damage. Those old boards weren't intended for power like he was using. Anything can be broke if the user tries hard enough. It seems ASUS still came through and rebuilt the board. From what theonejrs said, ASUS even beefed up the power handling of the board for him.
It wasn't so much the voltage as I was well under 1.4v at 1.375. Asus did rebuild the MB and when I got it back it had the same problem I sent it in for. Eventually they replaced it with a new MB. Both the repaired MB and the new one had heavier VRMs. You can physically see the difference. I was running it at 3.81 at the time. I also had what turned out to be a sub-standard PS that didn't deliver the promised wattage. With the new MB I was able to reach 4GHz (with a better higher wattage PS) but common sense kicked in and I run it at a more conservative 3.71 with no problems.
It's been a good, but not spectacular computer. It just seems to do everything well and it's a comfortable machine to work with. Not anywhere's near the fastest but still a good machine! Much better and faster than the 3.0/800 P4 it replaced!
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theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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25. March 2007 @ 09:18 |
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Why did the conversations between you and Sophocles discuss your turning up vCore to achieve OCs too high for the board's capabilities. He said you would damage the board if you didn't back off and it happened. I was just going by the conversations I saw in the old posts. If you say you didn't, you say you didn't. Nothing to me. But normally Asus boards don't head south unless they're helped along. Of course there's the occasional flawed board. Most often though it's the user and Asus still honors the guarantee. Didn't Mort81's overclocked 3.4 Northwood consistently outperform your Prescott.
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25. March 2007 @ 10:03 |
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It was discussed time and time again that the Prescott was significantly slower than the Northwood, even with a slight clock speed advantage. The D940 overclocked, although old technology is still by no means a slow processor, just not top-end. Now owning a few games that rely on dual core CPUs for good performance, it's interesting to see the difference having one makes.
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25. March 2007 @ 10:51 |
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sorry, PCD was a wrong term, i meant ICD, intel core duo, not pentium core duo, do not knwo why i wrote that there, musta been high.
what asus or gigabyte mobo can i get (that works with a core duo) can i get for under £150?
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25. March 2007 @ 11:00 |
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25. March 2007 @ 11:05 |
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Sammorriss
He asked about an Asus. Price one of the good Asus boards and/or supply a good site to shop in the UK. I didn't suggest a board because prices aren't necessarily the same in the US and UK, even after converting currency.
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25. March 2007 @ 11:12 |
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25. March 2007 @ 11:19 |
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Packman777,
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Why did the conversations between you and Sophocles discuss your turning up vCore to achieve OCs too high for the board's capabilities.
I think Soph assumed that's what I had to do to achieve that high an OC. I've never run my voltage on this machine over 1.375! Right now it's at 1.325 at 3.71GHz. I may have typed in the wrong number but I don't remember saying that I had raised it too high! The big problem was heat in the VRMs caused by a less than Sterling power supply that just couldn't deliver enough watts coupled with some sub 100v line voltage. Add my 3.81 overclock and there's just too much load. I've since added a boost transformer to pick up the line to about 110V or better. This way the load is on the transformer instead of the PS. I've also installed a much better quality 500W PS with dual 12v rails. Haven't had any problems since! I will be adding a line conditiong transformer down the road which I will custom build. I'm designing it now with a little help from some friends at Siemens and when I have the money for all the parts needed, I'll build it!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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25. March 2007 @ 11:29 |
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Like I said, I was just going by what was said in the previous posts, and you weren't denying it. That's really irrelevant. Even if you didn't fry it with settings, you had a poor PSU that did the job for you. Don't you monitor your system? As for a PSU, if you have serious problems with low voltage and fluctuations I'd go with a UPS or a variable voltage PSU like the Corsair.
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25. March 2007 @ 11:34 |
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There seems to be a lot going for these Corsair power supplies, SilentPCReview also rates them as the quietest power supply, with the fans staying at minimum speed until above 300W load, and still being the quietest PSU at 400W at only 29dB. At higher loads it gets noisy but I can't see me using that much power even with an R600.
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25. March 2007 @ 11:45 |
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Quiet, powerful, stable, triple 12V rails, 90~264V automatic voltage control, modular cables, and industrial grade capacitors. I'm sure I left some relevant items out. What more could a person ask for other than more power?
Sammorriss,
I think with all the features and the rave reviews on this one, I'd overlook a few extra watts. LOL They're always there if you need them later for an upgrade.
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25. March 2007 @ 11:47 |
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PackMan77,
Mostly just dumbness on my part! I'll never buy a cheap PS again! Wrong place to go cheap! The voltage here in SoCal is terrible, especially in the summer when I've seen it as low as 97v, no load!!
Best Regards,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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