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25. March 2007 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm. My Hiper 580W provided ample power, but got very noisy (at least for me) at the sort of loads I play games at. My Thermaltake Toughpower 750W is currently not a great deal better in that respect, but that's due to the oversized heatsink on the P5N-E, it can't be mounted so it blows air out via the case fan, it blows the hot air from the CPU into the power supply, which probably emulates another 3 or 4 hundred watts in the extra heat the PSU has to exhaust. That aside, however, the fan makes an annoying noise at idle, so I may end up getting a Corsair unit at some point in the future. Considering how good Yate Loon 12cm fans are, I'm highly disappointed in the 14cm model.



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thnks guys, i think i will go for the gigbyte board, but ll read some reviews of it first....

also i was dogn some digging around, what do you think about this?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?mbb-c2d635&P=4
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They don't mention the manufacturer of the RAM. Being that they don't, and it's a UK site, it could be elixir, in which case don't buy it. You'd be better off buying decent RAM separately, those bundles don't typically save you much anyway.



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25. March 2007 @ 11:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
PackMan77,
Mostly just dumbness on my part! I'll never buy a cheap PS again! Wrong place to go cheap! The voltage here in SoCal is terrible, especially in the summer when I've seen it as low as 97v, no load!!

Best Regards,
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As I pointed out in the post to Sammorriss the Corsair has automatic control 90~264V and is very stable on power delivery. Sounds like it's tailor made for your environment. If things were that bad, I'd use a UPS and the variable PSU.

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thnks guys, i think i will go for the gigbyte board, but ll read some reviews of it first....

also i was dogn some digging around, what do you think about this?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?mbb-c2d635&P=4
I usually dislike packages because they end up with things I don't need or don't want. This pack contains a fan heatsink and RAM I wouldn't want to use. I would have to find some way to move them and replace with components of my choice. I prefer better cooling and performance RAM that can be OCed. If you're not going to tweak the settings, it probably doesn't matter.

Asus board, C2D processor, XMS Corsair DDR2 RAM (2x1GB depending on OS), Zalman 9700 cooler, and a Corsair or OCZ PSU. That's the heart of a top rate system.


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Silly thing to point out, but there's only one s at the end of my sn, Pacman. I'm not annoyed, it's just obviously I'd prefer it right ;-)



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25. March 2007 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Right, sort of silly with all the typos going on around here. You can tell theonejr he can try getting my name right and PacMan has 777 following it for your own enlightenment. LOL You've not been getting my avatar right either. Not that I care. I only put the 777 on because there's so many using the PacMan name and it's easy to remember. I didn't realize we were getting so formal.


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25. March 2007 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, apologies, I'm not trying to be overly formal, in fact the opposite as you pointed out. It seemed natural to refer to you as Pacman and Russ as 'theone' but I don't see how it's natural to add an extra letter to my name. Anyway, I'll say no more about it.



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Well to make things less formal and help my typing, is it okay to call you Sam? If theonejrs doesn't mind, I'll call him theone or Russ, whichever he prefers. PacMan is fine for me and I don't mind if theonejrs slanders it with Packman (though I'm not a beast of burden). No need to apologize. The way the extra s got in there is because Morriss can be spelled with one s or 2 at the end. I guess I'm more used to using 2.


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PackMan777,
I was listening to Brazil 66 at the time! LOL!!! I usually do get it right though! LOL Sorry!!

Russ


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25. March 2007 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting, I've never seen it written with the extra S. oh well, the more you know! Yeah sam is fine, and easier still! :-)



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fyi, Mort81 is the only nick acceptable for me :) only jking of course. Mort is fine.

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Mort
You wouldn't prefer Sir Mort? LOL But then the initials are those for S&M. ;) Looks like slander a name evening.


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25. March 2007 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hehe. hey PacMan777, how bout we use your capitalized initials and add an S. PMS777 :) :) only funnin wit ya buddy.

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PMS777 would be worse than a day after hell, 666. LOL Maybe PMS666 would be better. Problem is I'm not equipped with an open faucet.

S&M does conjure some interesting images. LOL Something about women in black leather. ;) I'm not into letting one use a whip or tie me up though. LOL This has really gotten me distracted now, thoughts of Halle Berry in her Cat Woman suit.


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since we're so far of topic anyway, i'm contemplating getting a sound card. my klipsch desktop speakers are only 2.1 so i don't need anything too fancy. would a SB audigy SE do the trick? any suggestions welcome but i don't need or want to spend the money on a X-Fi.

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Creative makes a good card and as you pointed out, you don't need the top end models for good sound on a 2.1 system. I noticed a board with the X-Fi chipset for sale on Newegg, $45.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102007
It won't break the bank and is better than the $20 base model. A lot cheaper than some of the $200 + X-Fi cards. What were you thinking about spending?

If I was putting a card in a high end PC, I'd lean more toward this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005
Even at $94.99 it won't break the bank.


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What were you thinking about spending?
as little as possible. really i'm quit content with the onboard audio of my p5w dh deluxe but from what everybody keeps telling me, i'm missing out. i don't want or need anything too extravagent. i used to have a SB live and thought it sounded pretty good. the audigy's are better but used to be expensive. i can't believe how much the price has dropped on them.

an audigy would probably suffice but there's several models of them and i'm too dumb or lazy to know what the difference is between them and which would best suite my needs. btw, i'm not a gammer.


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25. March 2007 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Audigy SE was a good quality cheap card. Sound was fine, and the software had lots of features. Trouble is, they never really worked.



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The second card I listed uses Creative's better chipset. It's good for both gaming and listening to your DVD movies and music. Both cards should be an improvement over onboard sound. However the onboard audio has improved a lot the last few years. With your upscale C2D system, I think I'd go for a middle of the road card like the last one I listed.

With good onboard audio, it may not be worth the investment for you.


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Yeah, the reviews at newegg aren't good though are they? I mean I take most newegg reviews with a pinch of salt, but only half of the reviews are 4s or 5s. The card has the same connectors on the back as the Audigy SE, seems to use a similar processor and software, and even the SE has 96khz and 24-bit... So how are they different?



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I was recommending The X-Fi ExtremeGamer and all you need to do is compare the spec sheets to see the difference. It also had good reviews.
Audigy SE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102012

X-Fi ExtremeGamer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005

It's more game oriented, but music audio is supposed to be good as well. Like you said, I take those reviews with a grain of salt. Some people wouldn't know good sound if it bit them on the arse and others expect too much. For a truly top end system you're still talking several hundred dollars for a highend card and speakers.

The cheap X-Fi isn't much better than the SE, but then it only costs about $10 or so more. It's supposed to be better for enhancing game sound. If music is the primary interest, the SE would be good for a cheap card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102007


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the x-fi has eax 5 the sb a-se has eax 3.

p5n e sli news

new bios 0505 (or somthing) is only of any value to vista users,it fixes no known issues for anybody else. it has been taken down and put back up again since i was given this news but it also appears to remove the ability to change your cpu multi.

sam and mort

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Im going to lose my nerves WTF do these gay computer stores sell besides old Radeon C'mon I have called 4 now
1)I asked if they sell a 7600GT no only GS how much? 180au ok what about the 7900 yes but none in stock how much normallly? I dont know bye
2nd store) Do you sell the 7600GT no do you sell the 7900 no whats your top card?, An X1900 ok.
3rd store)Do you sell the 7900 I have no idea Bye WTF!
4th store)Do you sell the Geforce 7600GT no what about the 7900 no what do you sell? Mainly 9550's and 9600's I was like dude are you still in 2002?.LOL
This really peed me off i will look into the first store and maybe the 2nd one but i'd rather want the 7900 the specs are higher then a X1900.









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5th store are these prices okaish? LOL!

Geforce 7600GT 256MB PCI-E- 179au
Geforce 7900GS 512mb PCi-E- 359au
are they alright?








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the jump from 76 to 79 looks too much to me in the uk you are talking 100 ish and 150 ish
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