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20. April 2007 @ 08:46

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Yep!

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20. April 2007 @ 09:47

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BigDK,
Where's the chains to tie it to the desk? What altitude does it fly at? LOL!!! All jokes aside, that's a beauty!

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20. April 2007 @ 12:48

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Cheers for the feedback.

It's taking quite a while to get it together, but I'm determined to get it right first time around.

Had my first setback today, my EK chipset waterblock suffered a crack in the acrylic when I was tightening the barb.
Time to order another one, and to fix this one up with LSX until it arrives.

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21. April 2007 @ 00:03

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PacMan777,

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Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)

After reading this, I have to seriously question what I was told by Colin at Arctic Silver. I can't even begin to understand why! I owe you an appology.

I also looked up the instructions for applying it and they are virtually the same for both the AS5 and the Ceramique. He indicated that the application of AS5 is exactly as pictured but was way off base with the Ceramique. While I don't find their published method to be particularly effective and I do use a different method taught me by some of the members here and at DVDHounds, I just can't understand why he said those things. He's supposed to be the Manager and I'm at a total loss as to why he did it, and I'm sorry! Apparently nothing he said was true! ????????????

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Russ

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21. April 2007 @ 01:33

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No need to apologize. You do need to cross check your material though, even when supplied by a supposedly reliable source. I think what Colin was trying to get across was that Ceramique was safer for novice builders who aren't competent enough to apply the AS5 without getting it near electrical paths of the PCB. Beginners can squeeze a gob of the Ceramique on and let it run all over the place without causing problems. For those who know how to do the job properly, it is just as easy to use the AS5 with its faster curing time and slightly better heat conduction.

As for myself, I wouldn't want a large excess of ceramique to ooze out on my mobo (a given with Colin's gob application). I'm not normally a neat freak, but when it comes to a mobo I qualify.

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21. April 2007 @ 05:25

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some hd2600xt porn for you :)

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21. April 2007 @ 05:50

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All well and sexy, but I'm more interested in the 2800/2900, in particular the XTX model. It's the cliche R600 product, and where all the glory has been going, but if it ever gets released, it's what I'll be buying.

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21. April 2007 @ 06:55

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well sam if the rumors are to be belived your bank account should be around £350 lighter in the next few of weeks. most seem to think that they will be out next month. wether this means a paper launch or realy on the shelves tho, who knows.

i find it interesting that this, unlike the 8600gts, has no pcie power connector.

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21. April 2007 @ 07:29

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Lol and the 2900 will have two, what a difference! I'd like that date to be true, I really would, but fact is, what proof have you seen that it will be released this year, let alone next month? All I've been able to find is rumours and speculation, if we still don't knoww what the final version will be called for certain, it can't be just around the corner, if the 8900 series gets released first, that's probably what I'll buy. nVidia have made strides in the power consumption and noise departments over the years, and they're now well ahead of ATi, especially if what we've seen of these specs is true. I've spent quite a long time and a lot of money quietening my PC down, with 24W of power driving the fan alone, the X2900 is going to have to come with a yellow hazard sticker, and I don't fancy starting to mess with water cooling for the sake of a graphics card.

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21. April 2007 @ 10:11

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its sad but true, your right. we are just going off speculation. a may release date has been widly reported now tho for some time and it has to root from somthing, a deadline sombody somwhere has set but your right, right now it might aswell be next year as nvidia are stealing quite a lead on them.

as much sense as it would make to me for the first high end cards to be named 28 and then add the 29 series later in the life of the 2xxx's sense is not something they seem to use. what ever it is they call it i see them needing somthing special as the 8800's already have a extensive range which they have now plumped up with the low to mid range cards, does anyone else expect a 8600gtx soon after the 2600 is out too? plus they must be working on the second gen of dx10 cards as we speak.

i think if there was more games to make the most of dx10 it could of been almost suicide for ati. as it is they are on the edge of fashionably late for the party.

if there were games needing it (dx10) right now i would be real tempted by this.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=575782

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22. April 2007 @ 08:11

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Don't think so, I don't recall there being a 7600GTX.

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22. April 2007 @ 08:56

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Sam,

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Don't think so, I don't recall there being a 7600GTX.

As of March 8th. The picture is the 7900GTX but the 7600GTX looks identical and is reviewed it this article. I started at page 2 for the pic! That's some heat sink!

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/gef...00/index.x?pg=2

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22. April 2007 @ 08:59

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That article only tells me what a 7900GTX looks like, and I know what it looks like. It reviews a 7600GT, 7900GT and 7900GTX, but no 7600GTX... As far as I know, what was rumoured to be the 7600GTX ended up as the 7900GS.

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22. April 2007 @ 09:20

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Don't think so, I don't recall there being a 7600GTX.

i dont see where a 7600gtx was mentioned?

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im guessing its in response to my hope/guess for them to bring out the 8600gtx. this is just based on the current rankings which now sees the gts greater than a gt leaving the gtx as the top modle and an available prefix for a higher specced 8600.

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22. April 2007 @ 09:27

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The point I was making was that there wasn't a 7600GTX, so why would there be an 8600GTX? I'm not saying it won't happen, but we only got the GS and GT last time, and we've got the GT and GTS this time, so GTX? I think that's reserved for the highest level product, i.e. the 8800, and possibly 8900.

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22. April 2007 @ 09:29

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Sam & marsey99,
If you saw this post before editing, disregard. I got 7600 and 7800 crossed up!

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22. April 2007 @ 10:17

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sam i see your logic, i just dont think the 8600gts will offer good enough performance for it to be king of the mid range.

i cant see the 32 stream proc being enough and im sure ati will not want another x1600 on their hands. i hope that ati are using this time to polish the hd2600 so it forces nvidia to do somthing.

i thought the prefix at the top of the tree was the gx2? i know that may have been a 1 off.

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22. April 2007 @ 10:46

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Who knows, the X2000 series is STILL not close to release.

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22. April 2007 @ 23:42

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Got my build Friday. Built it Saturday night.

Lightning fast! I've already taken the E6600 to a nice healthy 3.0GHz but I'm going to take it back down to 2.8GHz as the AS5 cures and settles. I'm going to be putting up Sandra benchmarks in a few weeks.

The 8800GTX runs well and without heat problems. It was a bit tight getting it into the case but it clears everything alright after it gets in place.

The PSU is nice and stable though I wouldn't SLi another 8800GTX with it.

I haven't recorded any fps but I can now run Oblivion at MAX settings at 1600 x 1200 with 16x AF. It plays super smooth and I have never seen such a beautiful game :)

EDIT:

As to the earlier question on RAM speeds. I Chose DDR2 667 because it leaves me with a nice ceiling before I have to make any ratio adjustments. I have been successful in taking this stuff to DDR2 800+. Patriot Signature has proven itself to me time and time again.

I suppose it's actually just a matter of personal preference.

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23. April 2007 @ 00:46

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Estuansis,

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I Chose DDR2 667 because it leaves me with a nice ceiling before I have to make any ratio adjustments.

Yes! I noticed that with Gina's. The computer ran better with the memory at 800MHz than it did at 900MHz. DocTY mentioned that too!

I'm also thinking about going with a GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 instead of the Asus P5N-E SLI. I've noticed a lot of people using an Intel E4300 in them with G.Skill memory having good success, and the 650i Chipset on the P5N-E is a bit "Tweaky and Peaky"! Not enough overlap between the adjustments. I'm sure that future bios revisions will help improve that but I want to try the 965 chipset. Just about the same price too! I've successfully done the P5N-E at 3.0GHz, so I want to try something new and maybe get a better OC!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012

Let me know what you think!

Happy Computering,
theone

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23. April 2007 @ 01:02

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Go for it, you have the option to compare them, and I haven't seen many bad reviews with that board, especially not with GSkill RAM.

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23. April 2007 @ 01:23

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Going on the relative success I've had with that board I'd have to recommend it as one to check out for overclocking.

I might have my E6600 up to 3.2GHz if I'm comfortable with the temps. I plan to keep that board as long as I'm using a C2D system.

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23. April 2007 @ 01:25

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Sam,

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I haven't seen many bad reviews with that board, especially not with GSkill RAM.

I particularly noticed A. the amount of reviews, and B. the huge jump in it's rating over the last couple of weeks. Nobody's seemed to have any real problems with it for a while now, a far cry from when it was first introduced! In all fainess, that's called the "New Chipset Blues"! LOL! Even some of the complaints seemed a little silly, like the "Color Scheme" not matching anything or complaining that there's no 1394a. Hell, that one he should have checked before he bought it! I don't use it so no big there!

I'm also a bit gunshy about getting a MB that won't do what I want. It took 3 tries with Gina's to get it right and I just don't want to go through that again. Mort81's post made me think about that one a bit. Thanks Marty! I also noticed that most are getting 3.2-3.4GHz out of the E4300 with a minimum amount of fuss! Bodes well for a new build, and everything I learned from my last personal build and the mistakes I made with it are lessons well learned, so it's high quality all the way this time! Nice Thermaltake 500W PS, Good memory, good CPU cooler and excellent drives! Should do just fine! Thanks for the feedback Sam.

Happy Computering,
theone

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23. April 2007 @ 01:43

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Having used both, you would then be able to make a solid comparison with the two, with the same CPU and RAM I understand? That would be very useful.