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Optorite DVD Burner
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aallman72
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5. October 2003 @ 20:33 |
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Only thing I can advise, if you havent already, is make sure the IDE channel is set to "DMA if available". Under Device Manager, IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers, then Primary or Secondary, right click for properties, then Advanced Settings, set dropdown to "DMA if available".
My Dad's Sony drive for some reason was set to PIO and could only burn at about 2X.
Hope it helps.
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7. October 2003 @ 17:29 |
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ive been using memorex 4x at 4x with Nero. have only used dvd film and dvd copy 50+ back ups. 3 coasters due to dvd rom drive death(?).
seems like you need to have no other dvd on the same ide cable. back up play in apex,sony,
x-box- some playstation2 some dont? other generic standalones and phillips. had the same luck with fuji but they weren't 4x. apex 1200 doesnt like to read anything but fuji rw (all are + by the way)
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7. October 2003 @ 17:36 |
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ILjXYZ
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8. October 2003 @ 17:06 |
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Well, for all the problems I was having with the Optorite drive I decided to return it for a refund (you can see my previous posts a few days back). I then ordered the Pioneer DVR-105 (I don't need + burning so I skipped the 106) for about $10 more than the Optorite cost me. Just installed the 105 today, popped in a DVDPro 1-4x disc, burned a movie at 4x, popped it into my DVD-Rom, bamo it reads fine. Popped it into my Sony settop player, bamo it reads fine. Just the same as my 104, only faster. My advice to you is, DO NOT BUY the Optorite drive. Too many people have experienced problems with it. There are simply too many media incompatablity issues with it. Sorry Optorite, better luck next time. And that's my two cents.
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dcinege
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8. October 2003 @ 19:48 |
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If Pioneer had:
A) Not crippled the video read speed
B) Had an 8MB instead of 2MB buffer
I would have bought a 106. But they don't respect me as a custom (see A) so they don't get my money.
I'm engaged in dialog right now with Optorite tech support about the issues I'm having with Linux burning software. I doubt Pioneer or Sony would even be returning my email. And actually the issues I'm have don't seem to be the optorite per se, but the burning software and not being able to change the book type of +R/RW media. If Optorite comes through with new firmware to allow changing the booktype as I've requested they will be tops in my book.
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sync
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8. October 2003 @ 20:56 |
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Being able to change the book type would be sweet.
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ILjXYZ
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8. October 2003 @ 23:18 |
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Well, the simple fact is that I can put any 4x
DVD-R media in my 105, burn it, and have it WORK on EVERYTHING. I apparently wasn't the only person to experience problems with my Optorite so obviously there are some issues there. If you want fast "video read speed" then buy a seperate DVD-Rom... you shouldn't use your burners for reading anyway. As for the 2MB versus 8MB buffer, wtf are you doing, rendering 3D images while burning a DVD? Defragging your harddrive? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 2MB buffer even if you have a 5200 rpm HDD. I can rip other DVDs while burning, play games, etc. You want support? Pioneer had no problems RMAing my old DVR-104 a week back. I was able to talk to a rep on the phone and we quickly deduced that the drive needed an RMA. When new 4x discs first appeared on the market and certain Pioneer drives were having trouble burning them safely who promptly released a firmware update? Who released a firmware update for a particular DVD-R drive but screwed up and switched the model numbers on their website causing plenty of people to ruin their drive by flashing with the incorrect firmware? And let me tell you if you did have the A06 I'm sure you wouldn't be having +R/W problems like you are right now with your Optorite. But, to each his own I suppose. I hope you do get your Optorite problems figured out and are able to burn discs normally like I am. To everyone else, my former advice still stands: avoid Optorite like the plague. Get a Pioneer, get a Sony, get a friggin' Digital Research, but do NOT get an Optorite. I'll most likely be horribly flamed for posting this but honestly, at the end of the day whose DVD-R works and whose doesn't?
Btw, guess who is developing dual layer burning due out in 2004? :)
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MelC718
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9. October 2003 @ 04:31 |
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just got the optorite and no problems yet. Burned 2 movies fine using dvdshrink and the included b gold. i used staples brand 2x media, on sale 10 for $15 with jewel cases and it was fine. waiting on delivery of 4x princo's. How do you check the speed the dvd was actually burned at? Also, what's a good free/cheap software for burning? I've heard bad things about b gold
The hill is steep, but the view is amazing.
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11. October 2003 @ 05:29 |
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nero works the best but its far from cheap i think i paid $60 us. i figured might as well first software i actually paid for since windows 98
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rmarrash
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11. October 2003 @ 07:56 |
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CopyToDVD works great for me
I just bought this drive for $120 including shipping. I have only tried + media so far but it works fine at 2.4x and 4x on the media I have (Memorix and Generic from Taiwan)
Russell
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dcinege
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12. October 2003 @ 04:58 |
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My latest status...
Optorite tech support got back to me and recommend I try making a disc in multi-session mode. I did, and the disc works perfectly in my 8121 laptop combo drive. However it does not work in my APEX standalone. Then I remembered I could test DVD movies with the playstation 2....both my single and multi-session video backups worked perfectly! This is all with Princo -R media.
So to sum it up, all my problems seem to have revolved around two shitty readers....my laptop combo drive and my APEX.
A little background: The -dvd-compat option with linux's growisofs makes a single session disc. If you make a video disc with the mkisofs -dvd-video option, growisofs automatically add this option. You need to either hack this out of the source, or premaster the image first with mkisofs, and then burn the image file.
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djslammin
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14. October 2003 @ 09:51 |
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Ok, maybe I'm doing something really dumb but I just got an Optorite this weekend and installed it on an ATA controller card on my pc and all I get are blue screens of death. Even if I hook it up to the ide channels on the motherboard, my pc bombs. Here's what I'm running:
Athlon Thunderbird 750
512 mb ram
abit kt7 motherboard
Win98se
3 maxtor hard drives
Aopen dvd rom drive
Help! (reply here and on email at dj_slammin@hotmail.com thanks!)
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aallman72
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14. October 2003 @ 10:13 |
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Quote:
Ok, maybe I'm doing something really dumb but I just got an Optorite this weekend and installed it on an ATA controller card on my pc and all I get are blue screens of death. Even if I hook it up to the ide channels on the motherboard, my pc bombs.
Hmm not good. If I have problems with hardware I first try it in another machine and see if it acts the same. That at least tells me if the problem is with the hardware or the system its in.
Also make sure your Master/Slave settings are correct. And try a different cable.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. October 2003 @ 10:14
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MelC718
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14. October 2003 @ 10:17 |
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MEDIA RIPOFF!!!!
EBAY USER ID DVDTECH2002
I tried saving money and buying dvd-rs on ebay. I've used ebay alot, but this seller is SHADY!!! Charged $20 for UPS Ground, $2 shipping insurance. DVD spindles came in a paper thin box with a sheet of bubble wrap. Half are broken. Emailed the seller and "High Quality" dvd's became B grade. Didn't disclose info in auction. Isn't answering questions about shipping insurance claim. Just keeps writing back "all sales final"
Reported to ebay and filed claim with paypal. Save yourself the grief and warn others about bad sellers
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djslammin
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14. October 2003 @ 10:47 |
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Aalmann, I've tried two different cables (the new one that came with the controller card and a new one that I purchased); jumper settings were the second thing I looked at. I'm going to try connecting it straight to the motherboard as the slave drive on my primary ide channel but I think my problem might be either the card or the os; maybe I'll go to WinXP.
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dcinege
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16. October 2003 @ 20:00 |
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To keep you all (and the search engines) up to date with my progress:
Princo 4x media. Identical video discs, except one is burnt in single session and the other multi-session, both using Linux growisofs.
APEX AD-600A Neither will play.
APEX AD-1100W Multi-session works flawlessly. Single will not read at all.
Playstation2 Both work flawlessly
My APEX 600 is an old unit. For only ~$45 for a new APEX, I'll be going to Walmart instead of trying to find some obsure media combo that it likes.
So the short of it is, you probably want to use multi-session writing for the best compatability. Optorite recommended this to me, and I'm assuming Nero does this by default. (??)
Optorite tech support has replied to me several times. The responses were not stellar, but I commend them for the fact they were consistant and tried to be helpful. Where they have fallen short is telling me if:
A) Can the drive change the book-type of +R/RW media and if it can't can the optorite's firmware be updated to support this? (Optorite tech says 'no', but
it might be undocumented or in the hands of Sanyo's firmware engineers)
B) What the programming mode page values are that I need to set in order to
enable HD-Burning of CDR media.
This is understable since they don't actually make the drive. Brownie points to them however, as I've been refered to a direct contact inside Sanyo, and am waitting to hear back on my email to them.
At this point I'm now giving my Optorite a 'Thumbs Up' and recommending
it to friends. Who cares if it doesn't work with some garbage media? I did my homework first. I ordered Princo's and Ritek -R and Ricoh +RW's, and media has never been an issue. As Princo is one if the lowest priced discs you can get I don't see anything to complain about...except that if I waited another 3 weeks I could have save $40 more on the drive. (or got a snazzier looking DD0201 for the same price :-) )
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Nights
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16. October 2003 @ 23:17 |
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I have to say to all on this forum with problems. THIS DRIVE IS RUBBISH. Take it back at once and demand another brand of dvd writer. Honestly ive seen all the post from day one and its rubbish media this rubbish media that. Well if i wanted a good spec dvd writer that only writes to 10% of the total media available to buy then id have bought the sony. What eveyone wants is a drive thats burns to anything consistantly no coasters at all. There are many drives that will do this at a similar price so get one. I predict my saving in media for the year alone will pay for my writer i have purchased a Pioneer DVR-A06. Why have to search around for certain media. You wouldnt do it if your dvd player only played certain brands of film HELL NO so be smart get rid.
Nights.
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Coblck
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17. October 2003 @ 03:58 |
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I Have had my optorite burner now for 5 months, i have not had one coaster disc, only problem i have if using cheap media will only write at 2x even though the disc is suppose to 4x but i can live with that, i would recommend this drive to anyone, gets better everytime new firmware is updated.
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djslammin
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17. October 2003 @ 09:40 |
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Upgraded my os to WinXP and have had no problems since. Maybe it was just a Win98 thing....I also noticed that this drive isn't too fond of -rw media (or maybe it's just me). The -r stuff is fine and I was using no name brand stuff (purchased at a show - no name on the spindle but they were all 4x) and no coasters yet. So far so good with the drive; my only complaint is with Nero not seeing any of my drives not directly connected to the motherboard. Maybe that's a Nero issue as EZCD creator sees them fine. Oh well; on to more archiving!
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mux
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17. October 2003 @ 10:42 |
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Sometimes Nero and other burning software don't get along too well. That may be the problem. Remove your roxio stuff and just try Nero, you may see a big improvement in neros performance.
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pkkd
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17. October 2003 @ 16:05 |
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I am going to cry.
I bought the Optorite DD0201 (the black faceplate that came with Nero). I also picked up a 25 of Optorite DVD-R. The first burn ran fine, but was unreadable in my XP pro worksation. Figure I messed something up, no big deal. Second was a DVD copy of a single layer movie, bombed out. Now, I've been through this all before, but with CD-R, in the very beginning of the HP 7110, one of the (if not THE) first IDE CD-R. FW v1.0.
Now I figure, DVD is solid, and I won't have problems.
The next 10 burns were all coasters. Gets 1% through and I get the fabled TRACK FOLLOWING ERROR in Nero 5.5.10.45.
Outside of the first, I haven't even tried to burn movies, just data. I've tried ISO and UDF, to no avail. I upgraded the firmware to 2.17, and the same problem. Did it from DOS, and then from Windoze with the new CDRSYS and nothing.
Has anyone else had this problem? I realize this isn't so much a tech support forum, but I'm at the end of my rope with this thing. Right now I feel I've just bought a very expensive (and working, 1 for 1 on CDR media) CDR burner, but that's really not the point.
*sigh*
Any words of wisdom? I'm just at the beginning middle stages of diagnosing this, so outside of firmware, I haven't done anything. The track following error is NOT encouraging. I have not tried other media, I figured Optorite/Optorite would be a pretty safe bet. Stupid me.
Thanks!
aaron
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dcinege
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17. October 2003 @ 16:31 |
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Don't use 88optodisc. The only coaster I ever made was the single DVD+R disc I bought from CrapUSA. It was an optodisc. The 100 packs of generic CDR I've gotten from CrapUSA, have flaked apart on me, and most of the discs I made with that media 2 years ago in now dead. They consistently sell the lowest quality products you can find...
My further reading as shown:
A) Optodisc is garbage media
B) The Optorite(Sanyo) drive doesn't like them.
C) Sanyo units require newer revision burning software. (IE Nero 6)
Please read back in this thread about Media results. The bottom line is pretty much write in multi session and buy Ritek and/or Princo.
The latter is considered more compatable with standalones, the former is considered a higher quality media for long term storage. Other media (ricoh, yuiden) works well but typically much more $ then the ritek and definatly more then princo.
The major suppliers seem to be:
http://www.precisioncddvd.com/
http://www.rima.com/
http://www.shop4tech.com/
http://www.meritline.com/
http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/index.jsp
http://www.supermediastore.com/
I bought from supermediastore.
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letsCopy
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18. October 2003 @ 17:58 |
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hey guys, mind helpin me out w/ this problem.
systems :
win2kpro
80gig hd
athlon 2100
hp cd-rw plus
optorite DD0203
firmware 2.16
well, i have a problem using hd-burn on b's recorder. I went to your website to update the B's recorder and all of that. Everytime i try to record, it gives me this message
An ATAPI error occurred.
Disc error.
< Error No : 51037303 >
im using fuji film cd-r 700mb 80 min. IM not sure what the problem there is, can you help me.
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mux
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19. October 2003 @ 07:16 |
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Is anyone elses optorite making this noise? When I close the drive without a disc there is a little noise from in the drive like the spindle is looking for the disc and it's not there. It didn't do it at first, I think I may need to send this puppy back.
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cherzo
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19. October 2003 @ 10:13 |
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mine does that too but has always since the day i bought it, i thought it was just normal and my drive is working fine.
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