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I have 1100 $, plz help me build a computer :)
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hodab
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15. August 2006 @ 04:36 |
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Hi Afterdawn friend,
My budget is 1100$, and I want to build a good computer (considering the budget). The only very important thing for me is that my computer should use Intel pro 2 duo processors, it is up to you to choose among E6300, E6400 or E6600. I have looked around the shops but I haven't been able to make my mind about the components and their compatibilities. Please help me with this. I need the following components in my computer plus a monitor:
1) a 19" flat monitor
2) processor: Intel pro 2 duo ( I want to overclock it later)
3) motherboard (should accept overclocking)
4) RAM (1024 mb or more; I saw some RAM which were hyper x. What is that?)
5) Hard disk: 250 GB or more ( is Sata better than IDE?)
6) video card ( I will probabely play World of Warcraft or half life)
7) A case and a quiet PSU ( is a 350 W enough or should it be higher?)
8) A DVD Writer
That is all I think :) . Please help me with this and advise me. I appreciate any help. Thx
P4 R 2.8 GH, two processors
512 Mb RAM
160 GB HDD
256 MB ATI
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15. August 2006 @ 04:38 |
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It would help if you use the proper terminology bud. It's not Pro 2 Duo, it's Core 2 Duo.
Other than that, sorry I'm crap at configuring intels.
But yes, SATA is better than IDE. Much faster.
No, 350W is not enough. Especially for overclocking. I recommend a $60+ PSU at atleast 500W. NEVER get the ones that come with cases no matter what it's rated as. If it's 500W chances are it's only really 350W or less.
For good video you want an X850XT or an X1800XT. Both very well priced as of now.
If you plan on using Vista I recommend atleast 1.5-2GB of RAM.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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hodab
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15. August 2006 @ 04:46 |
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Thank you Estuansis and sorry for bad terminalogy. Good points in your post. But still I am waiting for someone giving me some links for every part... :)
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15. August 2006 @ 04:50 |
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Well I couldn't help you on intel but use those guidelines and you'll be safe :)
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Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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15. August 2006 @ 05:23 |
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If you install a SATA drive you will probably need a floppy drive too because Windows XP does not recognize SATA drives until you load the drivers and it only wants to do this from a floppy. Some SATA drives come with a floppy disk with the drivers already on it, others give you a cd and expect you to put it on an empty floppy, so you may need to buy a floppy disk also if you don't have one you can copy over. How to install a SATA drive using Windows XP is located all over the net by many sources so a google search I see in your future I do.
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hodab
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15. August 2006 @ 06:14 |
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Ok, I have looked around a little bit more and here is my first list. I hope you afterdawn friends help me with this: Are they compatible? are the good or are there better devices than these considering the overall price? All of them cost me 1215$. 115$ more than what I have.
Motherboard: Asus - Socket 775 - ATX VIA PT880 Ultra (P5VDC-X) - PCI-E / SATA / DDR2 - HV
Case: bZerk Gaming-Miditower with window, black (Ej PSU) - HV
HIS ATI Radeon X550 256MB - DVi / TV-Ut / PCI-E - HV Intel Core 2
Processor: Duo E6400 "Conroe" 2.13GHz / 1066MHz / 2MB (Boxed) - HV
RAM: Kingston DDR 1024MB PC3200 400MHz CL3 - HV
Monitor: LG 19" TFT L1919S-SF - Silver (8ms) - HV
DVD Writer: Nec Intern IDE DVD±RW 16x Dual Layer ND-3550 - black(Bulk) - HV
Hard Disk: Western Digital 250GB SATA II Caviar SE16 (7200RPM / 16MB Cache / SATA II) - HV
PSU: Q-Tec PowerSupply (PSU) ATX 500W (Big Fan), less than 26 db
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15. August 2006 @ 13:58 |
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That motherboard will not work with the COre 2 Duo because it is not new enuff. Look on newegg and find those that are core 2 duo compatible. There are some that can handle core 2 duo with a bios flash, but I'm pretty sure that won't work.
Your ram should be ddr2 since that's what the new mobo's from intel use.
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hodab
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15. August 2006 @ 14:47 |
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well, looking at newegg.com doesn't help me very much. I live in Sweden and newegg.com doesn't ship to Sweden. Can you please tell me some good budget names of motherboard, and RAM, so that I can search them on the Swedish Google? appriciate any help
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15. August 2006 @ 16:02 |
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For the mobo, I'd recommend the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. It's highly rated in the overclocking forums. Fortron (FSP)makes a relatively inexpensive 450 watt power supply that should have no problems powering any single-videocard Core 2 Duo system. You really want at least an X850XT PCI-E videocard, so you won't have to upgrade too soon. You will NOT be happy with the X550 card. PQi makes decent 2x 1GB DDR2 memory sets that are pretty cheap, but if you want to overclock you'd probably be better off with with Corsair or Gskill ram.
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15. August 2006 @ 21:30 |
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For World of Warcraft I recommend getting way better video. X800 Atleast. Try an X800GTO. They're $89 on newegg.com. Better than a GeForce 6800 and 6600GT.
The X550 would be super bare minimum for WoW or anything else. It's equal to the Radeon 9550, which was not meant to play any new games.
But follow my guidelines and you'll have a rig that'll do everything you wan't
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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hodab
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16. August 2006 @ 00:18 |
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They really aren't any good for what you want to do.
It's X850XT or see if you can find an X1800XT or 7800GT.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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hodab
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16. August 2006 @ 02:08 |
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hodab
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16. August 2006 @ 02:29 |
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16. August 2006 @ 05:45 |
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what about one of these, is this in your price range?
http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=60095
would beat the 7600GS senseless, even with 256MB of memory. Also near silent in operation.
Oh and also
DO NOT, AND I REPEAT DO NOT EVER EVER EVER use a Qtec power supply. My old PC caught fire due to one of those, they are poorly made and known to fail.
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Qtecs are bad... noted...
Yeah, see if that X1800GTO is in your range. Or try to find atleast a 6600GT or a 6800.
While that 7600GS will do in a pinch I suggest something a bit higher in power.
Anything in the X800 series would work fine:
http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=49767
While not a powerhouse I think it would be quite affordable. And it will run World of Warcraft no problem.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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Depends how much you have to spend on one, bearing in mind decent power supplies cost more than that Qtec.
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16. August 2006 @ 10:37 |
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Ok, very good information about the video card... thx
But now, about the mobo...
What do you think of this one (the link below)? It seems to me quite decent, but I am maybe wrong.... can it be used for overclocking? I am not going to use water cooling... and the price of this one is good for me... If overclockable, how far?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128015
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hodab
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16. August 2006 @ 10:38 |
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16. August 2006 @ 10:49 |
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hodab, I haven't checked much at all but aren't those parts expensive? I am just mentioning because I think that by quickly looking at those specs that that is alot of money (especially if ur paying in US money)...
If I insult you...don't get offended...my insults are "friendly insults"...I know this sounds stupid (ridiculous) but I am fet up of writing, "no offense" in my posts...
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hodab
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16. August 2006 @ 11:41 |
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well, s3a, it would be better to pay less for good devices, but I don't know how. I need Intel core 2 duo anyhow. Do you have a better idea?
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hodab
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16. August 2006 @ 15:16 |
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Ok now, I have decided over the following parts:
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM
DVD: NEC DVD-Writer ND-3550 IDE black OEM DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW (Dual layer)
Monitor: LG 19" LCD L1919S-SF TCO-99 Silver 1280x1024, 8ms, 1600:1, VGA
RAM: Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 1024MB CL5 Kit w/two matched CM2X512A-6400 Dimm's
MotherboardGigabyte GA-965P-DS4, P965, Socket-775, Firewire, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex16
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz Socket LGA775, 2MB, BOXED m/fan
Power Suply: Hiper power suplyATX 480W black, 14dB, Type-R, 120mm Fan, 2xSATA, 20/24pin
Video Card: Asus GeForce 7600GS 256MB DDRII Silent, PCI-Express, Tv-Out/DVI-I/HDTV, Retail
The cost is now 1420 $. It is 320 dollars more than my budget. The video card is the best "cheap" card I could find here in Sweden. I hope that I get feedback about these parts, are good or not? Suitable enough for good overclocking? Thx alot...
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16. August 2006 @ 15:50 |
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For that money the GPU is quite naff. The PSU is excellent, I had one, but if you're only going for an E6400, a rival AMD X2 will compete, for less money and with DDR1 RAM (cheaper). An X2 4600+, Asus A8N-SLi board and DDR1 RAM WILL PERFORM THE SAME. Only the E6600 and above are the Core 2 Duos that actually best AMD at anything.
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17. August 2006 @ 00:05 |
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What do you mean by "GPU is naff"? (Sorry, English is not my native language)
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if you're only going for an E6400, a rival AMD X2 will compete
Maybe I am wrong, but the first time I hear this...But I have heard that E6400 can be overclocked very easily and to a high speed... So my question is: Which one can be overclocked most, just using stock cooling:
E6400
X2 4600+
x2 4200+
x2 3800+
and remember, just stock cooling...
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17. August 2006 @ 00:20 |
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In terms of overclocking potential from best to worst I'd say
X2 3800+
X2 4200+
E6400
X2 4600+
Although the middle two may switched round. The thing is, in order to overclock any Core 2 Duo, you need an expensive board, whereas with AMD processors, cheap boards can still manage amazing overclocks. All the AMDs there are capable of besting the Core 2 Duo if overclocked, but then the 6400 can be OC'ed too a bit. In terms of raw performance before overclocking I'd say
4600+
E6400
4200+
3800+
The only Core 2 Duos that have attained monumental overclocks are the 6600 and above, and in any case, stock cooling would limit their stability too.
By naff I mean not all that good, could be better. 7600GS cards are relatively low end, and in a system that costs that much, I feel it may be slowing the system down somewhat.
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