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My PC crashed, how do I get my stuff off the HD ??
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21. August 2006 @ 21:35 |
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About a week ago my 2nd pc fell apart on me. When I turn on the pc it just beeps, no boot, nothing on the screen. Dell gave me a new HD, but I have ALOT of important stuff on the old HD. How do I get that stuff off the HD?
Thank you for the help.
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22. August 2006 @ 00:02 |
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I assuming you have two choices:
1. Fix the computer in which the HD is located.
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2. Take out the HD and install it in a working computer to copy the data.
I know not much help, but you really do not have alot of room to innovate.
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22. August 2006 @ 09:30 |
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That pc has already been fixed. But when I put the old HD in there it wont boot.
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22. August 2006 @ 12:16 |
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Install both and boot from the new/working one. Then, you can copy the data from the non-working HD to the working HD.
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bojan087
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22. August 2006 @ 12:22 |
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yea just put the h/d with the information on as a slave drive and try to access it that way
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22. August 2006 @ 12:32 |
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I did that, the pc won't boot with the bad drive connected.
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22. August 2006 @ 12:57 |
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Did you change the jumper of the old one, to the slave position?
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22. August 2006 @ 13:42 |
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Provided everything is correctly set up, there is another option available. Boot into a "Live" version of Linux and recover the files that way. I would recommend Knoppix for file recovery.
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22. August 2006 @ 13:56 |
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-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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22. August 2006 @ 14:22 |
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If the PC doesn't boot with it connected it could well be a failed drive, so you may need to have it recovered if you can't get the data off, which is expensive. You could try a home-bodge repair job, but the slave drive needs to be ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the failed drive, and if it ain't, good luck getting your data back! You could still try putting it in an external enclosure and seeing if it works, it's possible, though unlikely. External boxes are quite cheap.
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22. August 2006 @ 14:30 |
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I've never used linux, and I don't know what live is. How do I do it?
I don't know about putting it in the freezer.
How do I try to repair it at home, and why do the drives have to be identical?
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22. August 2006 @ 14:39 |
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no74
I take it you ahve XP?
Do you ahve a CD/dvd drive?
Do you have XP running on a diffrent HD?
Dose the HD power up and sound like its spining/movieng inside?
repalce the CD/DVD with the old HD then boot it up wth it on a diffrent IDE channle it should coem on with no trouble if it powers on but the bios cant find it then go into XP theres a 50/50 chance it can find it.
If the HD is still not found remove the jumper from it and try again I ahve ran into a few HDs that thier master jumper hates soem mobos also it can hate the slave jumper as well.
if you cant boot the drive up doing this..it might be dead....
BTW this should work for lunix/unix or even mac *L*
also I would advise to let XP/whatever scan for errors befor you dig your files out if the drive is damaged have it scan the sectors as well.
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22. August 2006 @ 14:46 |
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If the drive circuitry has failed and you're swapping it, you need to replace it with circuitry thats the same or it won't find the drive, or worse... I wouldn't bother with Linux, if windows can't read it that's that. You can connect it with an external box and your PC boot up ok. If the drive gets recognised but you don't see the data, you can use a program like Acronis to try and get your stuff back. Listen to the unit when it powers up. If it makes unhealthy noises, or no noise at all it's probably done for. If it spins up and then grinds for a brief moment it should be ok physically (not always).
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22. August 2006 @ 21:45 |
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@sammorris
I hate to disagree with you, but Linux can read drives that Windows will not read or even see.
@no74
A LInux "Live" version is one that runs off of a CD. You download the ISO file and burn it to a CD. Then boot from the CD. It installs nothing on your system.
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23. August 2006 @ 00:08 |
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Well by all means try Linux, particularly a Live version, but my experience with it has been quite the opposite, not noticing drives Windows can see, not noticing the partition for windows on the same drive as Linux is installed.
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23. August 2006 @ 01:19 |
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dolphin2/sammorris
not to sound dim but...mmm wouldnt it come down to witch Linux version/driver you are useing?
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23. August 2006 @ 01:26 |
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Potentially, but they're all based off the same idea, so I would have thought Hard disk recognition would be quite similar across the board. I used Suse 9.
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23. August 2006 @ 02:08 |
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dolphin2
XP is pretty good at finding a drive where it can read it 100% of the tiem is a diffrent thing but finding it shouldnt be a problem becue I ahve had a few HDs to not show on the bios yet show in XP 0-o
how easy is it to find a live drive linux?
can it read NTSF??
if it can I might start useing that as a file mover /copier/disk checker *L*
sammorris
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23. August 2006 @ 02:20 |
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I don't know, I really couldn't get the hang of Linux so I didn't bother reinstalling it on my current PC. Drivers are what bug me, they're needlessly difficult to install.
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23. August 2006 @ 02:30 |
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sammorris
thant and DX for gameign has kept me from messign with it >>
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23. August 2006 @ 09:39 |
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It seems we can't agree on what I should do. We have people who say use linux, people who say don't use linux, and people who say put it in the freezer.
Please, tell me like a 5 year old, what do I do? Do I try linux or not? If I should, which version?
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23. August 2006 @ 10:59 |
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no74
you are useing XP right?
if not whats your OS?
Lets start there :P
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23. August 2006 @ 12:53 |
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I am using xp.
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23. August 2006 @ 13:11 |
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sammorris
Well by all means try Linux, particularly a Live version, but my experience with it has been quite the opposite, not noticing drives Windows can see, not noticing the partition for windows on the same drive as Linux is installed.
Is this from an older Distribution? What Distro?
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not to sound dim but...mmm wouldnt it come down to witch Linux version/driver you are useing?
Yes. Some Distributions will only see the Linux partitions while others are more advanced and designed for the dual boot uses of most users.
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Potentially, but they're all based off the same idea, so I would have thought Hard disk recognition would be quite similar across the board. I used Suse 9.
True, they are all based on the same idea. However, some Distributions have been specialized to meet different needs. For example, VideoLinux is designed just for working with Video files. That doesn't mean it will not do other things. It just includes programs not found in your normal release.
Some Linux distributions will not "see" Windows partitions at all while others are fully able to read and write to NTSF and FAT32. Windows will not "see" a Linux partition! If Linux is installed on a slave drive, the drive will not even be seen. So, they are NOT similar all across the board.
SuSE 9 is almost 3 years old now. I don't know when you tried it, but if it was recently, there is no wonder you had problems with drivers. Driver support lags behind in every operating system. Look at the problems people had with XP when it was first released! The same things are going to happen when Vista is released. Some older/newer hardware isn't going to work. At least with Linux, you have the options of creating your own drivers!
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how easy is it to find a live drive linux?
can it read NTSF??
if it can I might start useing that as a file mover /copier/disk checker *L*
Finding a Linux Distribution is easy. Finding the one that's best for you can be the hard part. http://distrowatch.com/
I recommended Knoppix http://www.knoppix.org/ as it's easy to use and has some of the better features for data recovery and system repairs. It has transparent write access for NTFS partitions and automatic hardware detection. Also, due to on-the-fly decompression, the CD can have up to 2 GB of executable software installed on it. (over 8 GB on the DVD "Maxi" edition).
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I don't know, I really couldn't get the hang of Linux so I didn't bother reinstalling it on my current PC. Drivers are what bug me, they're needlessly difficult to install.
Did you "really" get the hang of Windows when you started with it? Have you tried any of the newer distributions? Driver problems have been a "bug-a-boo" for most operating systems. The thing of Linux is the support that is offered. If you have a problem, all you need to do is post to a forum and you'll have answers. Linux support forums and mailing lists put Windows to shame.
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thant and DX for gameign has kept me from messign with it
DirectX for Linux is missing as Microsoft will not release it. OpenGL is what most Linux distributions use. Linux isn't really designed for gaming. However, it is getting better in this area.
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While I'm not a "die-hard" Linux uesr, it should be looked at for what it is. It's a operating system that is free and still in development. It has it's good features and it's bad.
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23. August 2006 @ 14:05 |
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Lol you're not a hardcore Linux user, but have an image to say so in your signiature, you are the very first person I've seen who has!
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