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Pay Programs "Clonedvd 2+ Anydvd vs Freeware "DVDFab Decrypter" etc.
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12. April 2007 @ 08:51 |
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...and if I remember correctly there was no update required either.
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PacMan777
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12. April 2007 @ 09:06 |
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The FixVTS was updated about that time, but the RI4M didn't need it. It's had a few tweaks since. FixVTS was built in for model 1710.
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16. April 2007 @ 05:57 |
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I'm sure it has already been said in so many words a hundred times in this thread, but when it comes to ease of use and time--clone and AnyDVD win hands down. However, it is my opinion that freeware programs do a better overall job in terms of quality and customization....but it's more complicated and time consuming.
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16. April 2007 @ 06:22 |
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Originally posted by klemperal:
I'm sure it has already been said in so many words a hundred times in this thread, but when it comes to ease of use and time--clone and AnyDVD win hands down.
No one argues with easy :)
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However, it is my opinion that freeware programs do a better overall job in terms of quality and customization....but it's more complicated and time consuming.
As long as you only have 10-20% compression. Past that many people, myself included, would say that DVD-RB/CCE is best and these are paid proggies. Much different than point and rip to setup.
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16. April 2007 @ 07:01 |
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As long as you only have 10-20% compression. Past that many people, myself included, would say that DVD-RB/CCE is best and these are paid proggies.
Good point I wasn't even thinking about rebuilder since I have the free version of it.
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16. April 2007 @ 07:19 |
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Freeware has it's place and sometimes the programs are as good or better than retail. Sometimes they're niche items, but they're still handy. jeanl's FixVTS is a handy little program for compliance processing. I've not seen a retail equivalant. RI4M was able to beat the retail offerings for a while. That was a combo of some old freeware with a new macro. DVDFab Decrypter is the only other ripper style freeware that ranks at the top. The rest of the top decryption programming is retail. ImgBurn would be as good as any of the retail burner programs if it would simply burn files instead of having to build an ISO. The free RB with Hank's encoder rivals most retail software as far as turning out stunning video quality, even at high compression. But I'll have to go along with Deadrum33, nothing beats RB Pro with CCE, especially if it's CCE SP or CCE SP2.
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16. April 2007 @ 18:34 |
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I hate to be the one to ask the stupid question, but what is and where can I find "Hank's encoder?"
Sorry about that folks. I answered my own question with the search bar.
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17. April 2007 @ 18:21 |
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17. April 2007 @ 19:22 |
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Yeah, but j has been salting those little Hank's away in the free RB pack. LOL
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17. April 2007 @ 21:45 |
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if anyone uses dvdfab, how do i put movies into the psp, ive been trying and trying but i don't know what to do from scrath, can anyone help?
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18. April 2007 @ 11:36 |
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Can't do it with the freeware version of the program...that is just eye candy to get you to buy the fully supported full feature version. Try DVDFab Platinum (not sure if gold has the ability), there should be an option in the side bar for encoding to PSP.
Otherwise you will probably get better feedback to your question in the PSP forum.
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18. April 2007 @ 14:54 |
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18. April 2007 @ 18:00 |
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Getting off topic on the 15th page but...
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how do i put movies into the psp
Isnt PSP same MPEG format as IPOD? I've done an IPOD B4, Videora converter is easiest I found and its a free download here at AD.
Use DVDFAb as a ripper, then I used DVD Shrink to get the main movie only out of it all. Run the main movie through Videora and bang. Its done. Or the free program SUPER converter, has its own setting for PSP and more options but not as easy I think.
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Otherwise you will probably get better feedback to your question in the PSP forum.
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20. June 2007 @ 23:01 |
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remember all the slysoft discount last till the 24th of this month
clonedvd 2+ AnyDVD working well for all the new releases as of late also!!
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22. June 2007 @ 06:36 |
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Ripit4Me is still going strong for me even on Linux,the only ones I have heard it has problems with are the Protect DVD crap that a lot of stand alone players won't play.
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23. June 2007 @ 14:19 |
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Originally posted by aabbccdd:
OK guys i thought i start a thread debating the pay programs over the freeware programs . what rips/transcode/burns better,whats easier to use,quality etc. also nOObs can post there questions here too on how to rip/transcode/burn
everyone knows how big a fan i am of CloneDVD 2 + AnyDVD it does a great job its fast the quality is good and less cleanup (deleting files etc.) but does the freeware like "RipIt4Me" do a better job since your running it though more programs like FixVTS is it making a cleaner file? this should be a good debate and good information for everyone.
i used most the programs out there and CloneDVD 2 + AnyDVD is hard to beat BUT ive used "RipIt4Me" the last couple weeks also and its pretty much idiot proof and does a great job. I'm going to play them back on my new Sony SXRD 60" and see what looks best and will post soon
We can easily put this discussion to rest. Since we're discussing decryption software and transcoding software we'll need to separate parts of the discussion, especially quality of the final video output. The quality of the transcoding or encoding software determines the video quality, not the decryption software, such as AnyDVD, DVDFab Decrypter, or RipIt4Me. By the way, all 3 of those programs have been doing a good job. A lot depends on familiarity and preference.
Rebuilder with one of the supported encoders outdoes all the transcoders. The free DVD Shrink does as well as most transcoders and better than some. CloneDVD2, Recode, DVDCopy5 and others are comparable in output quality. Any transcoder worth anything can do low compression projects. Once the compression reaches 15-20%, I suggest using an encoder. Not just my thoughts but that of a lot of people familiar with the software. With transcoders, like the decryption software, a lot depends on familiarity and preference.
The big advantage of AnyDVD + CloneDVD is that Slysoft makes sure those 2 work together before making sure the AnyDVD works with other transcoders. We've seen that in the recent past. CloneDVD is incorporated into the newer AnyDVD as part of the ripper software. Here's a hint, any transcoder that will set to DVD9 and works with AnyDVD can be used as a ripper.
I've used AnyDVD, RipIt4Me, and DVDFab Decrypter over the past months. Except for when a new spin on copy protection came along, they all did well. The last RipIt4Me incorporates FixVTS, so there is no running the output through FixVTS with that one. Thanks to program updates FixVTS is needed less frequent with decryption and trancoding software than in the past.
RipIt4Me is no longer supported that I'm aware of. I've not paid attention for the last bit. DVDIdle and Slysoft are the big retail players. There's a few others, but they don't keep up as well. DVDIdle is still giving away the free DVDFab HD Decrypter. I like their DVDFab Platinum as well as the AnyDVD + CloneDVD combo. DVDIdle sells theirs as one program. DVD Region + CSS Free is another good program from DVDIdle, though it hasn't caught on as well as the AnyDVD from Slysoft. I've used it with good results.
As for quality output, I can take RipIt4Me, DVD Rebuilder with Hanks Encoder, and ImgBurn and turn out a higher quality copy on a high compression task than using AnyDVD + CloneDVD. The RB setup mentioned can be done with all freeware. The difference is time. Encoders deliver higher quality, but the process takes longer. You sacrifice time for quality. I can use freeware with Shrink and do as well as the Slysoft software. Once again the Slysoft software is faster. Preferences don't always boil down to quality, but to ease of use and/or speed.
I'm not saying don't buy AnyDVD and CloneDVD. They do a good job with a small learning curve. I own both and at times in the past, Slysoft proved to find decryption solutions faster than others (though they've been slipping recently). Buy Slysoft if you want quick and easy with good results. Realize though that there are freeware that does as well or in some cases better, depending on the project. However, as I mentioned, those programs aren't always as easy to use as the Slysoft.
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24. June 2007 @ 00:15 |
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AnyDVD update
Dear valued customer,
we would like to inform you, that a new version of AnyDVD
has been released. Here the list of fixes and improvements:
6.1.6.5 2007 06 22
- New (DVD): Added support for a new copy protection to the option to remove
"Protection based on unreadable Sectors", e.g. "Free Zone", R1, US or
"Waiting for Happiness", R1, US
- Change (DVD): Because of popular demand, the "bad sector count
numbers" of versions before 6.1.6.0 are back
- Change: Shows correct disc size with virtual drives
- Change: Because of undesired side effects, the Sonic DLA behaviour before
version 6.1.5.4 is back
- Change (Blu-ray): Ripper now copies the CERTIFICATE directory
- Fix (DVD): Because of an internal overflow, some Sony Arccos
protections were not removed correctly (e.g., "UFC65", R2, UK)
- Fix (DVD): Possible hang if heavily scratched or damaged
Video DVD was inserted
- Fix (HD DVD & Blu-ray): In a rare situation, renaming the AACS directory
could fail (e.g., "The Hulk", HD DVD, US)
- Fix (HD DVD & Blu-ray): Problem with Windows Vista UDF file system
- Fix (Blu-ray): Problem with .jar files
- Some minor fixes and improvements
- Updated languages
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24. June 2007 @ 00:48 |
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I just wanted to add my opionion on what combos are the best. I too like aabbccdd am a fam of CloneDVD and AnyDVD. They are the best two paid programs out there but i have altered this combo slightly.
I use DVDFab Decrypter to rip and CloneDVD 2 to burn and compress my movies. I completley do not even use DVD Shrink anymore. That does not mean its a good program it is and i do recommend it if you really want excellent quality.
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25. June 2007 @ 08:01 |
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Free is the best way to go.
DvdFab Hd Decrypter, DVD Shrink and ImgBurn.
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25. June 2007 @ 13:07 |
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The only way free can beat other programs is if you steal the pay programs that work better than Shrink. Read the rest of the thread or do some research if you dont wanna believe me.
Your free way might be easiest, but certainly doesnt give the best results.
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25. June 2007 @ 23:16 |
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26. June 2007 @ 06:08 |
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Free is the best way to go.
DvdFab Hd Decrypter, DVD Shrink and ImgBurn.
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The only way free can beat other programs is if you steal the pay programs that work better than Shrink. Read the rest of the thread or do some research if you dont wanna believe me.
Your free way might be easiest, but certainly doesnt give the best results.
Well well, I would have to add my 2 cents here :-) Of course there are many programs you can pay for, but will the results really be that much better? The answer to that is pretty simple NO! If you are doing only the main movie and have very little to no compression then the results of the overall product will be the same in 99% of the cases. Now if you require a lot of compression then the way to go is DVDRB + CCE, but most people don't like messing with that program. I really only use it if there is a lot of compression needed and even then I will most likely just use a DL disk on those movies anyway. I change up the programs I use to backup my DVD's pretty often right now I am on a kick of using DVDFab Decrypter and Nero recode a couple of weeks ago I was using AnyDVD and CloneDvD2. Before that I was using DVDCopy 5 and to be perfectly honest all of the results are the same when I do a scan on these disks of course bear in mind I am always doing only the main movie which requires little to no compression if you are doing the whole DVD then there are only a couple of pay programs out there that will give better results one of those would be DVDR w/CCE and the other DVDCopy 5. Actually some of the pay programs don't even work as good as the free ones! It really all comes down to what you are comfortable using and is easiest for you now that might be where some of the pay programs are a little better then the free ones because they are designed more for the average user and require little interaction from the user. Does this make it produce a better quality backup? I don't believe so and I would think anyone who has been backing up there DVDs for any amount of time and tried different programs would tend to agree. ;-)
Ok thats my 2 cents :-)
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30. June 2007 @ 19:06 |
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Good points. I guess Deadrum33 didn't believe my comments on the software. Nice to see someone who knows a lot of programs and has written guides goes along with my take on the situation. It was almost the opposite of what was said: Quote:
Your free way might be easiest, but certainly doesnt give the best results.
With free Rebuilder and Hanks Encoder the task isn't easiest, but the results are far better than most retail transcoders. Like you said, most people avoid RB unless they have a fast computer or they're in particular need of an encoder with a heavy compression backup task. Retail are the programs that have an emphasis on ease. That's what keeps the customers happy. I especially agree where you mentioned Quote:
some of the pay programs don't even work as good as the free ones!
In the end it's more a matter of familiarity and what the user is sold on (as long as it works half way decent).
Personally I use free decryption software and some rather expensive encoding software. I could get a decent video with Shrink on most of the backups I do, but I have the equipment and software, so why not use it? I also have AnyDVD. I could use it, but with what I'm using, once the job is done the encode and playability are almost a sure thing.
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30. June 2007 @ 21:09 |
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Heres my 2 cents when I first started to backup and bought some pretty expenive and good looking software that didn't do diddly found AD using the guides of Alkohol and Bobmayo to name a couple [there was more]and getting everything tuned in. Decided to try AnyDVD and Clone,fell in love like a school boy for the simplicity,and getting fast no brainer back ups. But then it got boring and went into delving into the other programs.Was AnyDVD and Clone worth the money at the time is a yes and to do it again yes for when a 8 yr old looks at you with the smile on his face from backing up his new movie using AnyDVD and Clone all by his self is priceless.Yes freeware is great and which is better depends on the circumstances.Chris
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1. July 2007 @ 05:44 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
I guess Deadrum33 didn't believe my comments on the software. Nice to see someone who knows a lot of programs and has written guides goes along with my take on the situation
So because I havent written a guide means the opinions are useless and I dont know programs well? That is an ignorant conclusion to make but
"IF" you want to compare apples to oranges, I guess you can poke holes in what I said, especially when you throw the word "IF" in there.
Originally posted by BBmayo:
"IF" you are doing only the main movie and have very little to no compression then the results of the overall product will be the same in 99% of the cases. Now if you require a lot of compression then the way to go is DVDRB + CCE, but most people don't like messing with that program
Matter a fact, on the previous page of this thread,I said nearly the exact same thing!!
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/390954/3000006
For someone to come out and say free proggies are the best way to go for everything is just wrong, unless you add the "IF" again being someone never doing a episodic disc or anything with much compression. "IF" you only do a main movie taken from a DVD-9 or "IF" you only do single layer discs then free may be the best way to go. I'd never trade the free ones I use from time to time. To make a blanket statement like that though is irresponsible when there are so many "IFS"out there.
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