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How do you copy protect DVDs that YOU have made?
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ellisonCE
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26. November 2006 @ 18:12 |
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I realize that this is a bit of an odd question, seeing that most of the topics in the forum are discussing how to BREAK and GET RID OF the copy protection on DVDs, but it must be asked, and I would greatly appreciate an answer.
I've been making films for a while, but recently some friends of mine have requested copies of some of my projects. I would like to apease them, but i am quite protective of my work, and dont want them making copies like crazy. All the research I have done into adding copy protection always references the fact that you have to send a master disc to a replication/mastering facility to add CSS or ACP encoding. If there is any way that it is possible to add any type of copy protection (CSS, ACP, or some other type that I may not know about) on my computer without having to send anything anywhere, I would appreciate being informed of it. Thank you.
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Weycraze
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26. November 2006 @ 18:24 |
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I can understand your dilemma, however any copy protection that the big companies make, is quite easily removed with just free software that is available to anyone over the net.
I would assume it would cost you a small fortune to get a hold of a developer like Macrovision, and your work would still not be safe.
The only way to keep your work safe, is to keep it to yourself.
On the other hand, it may be beneficial to have others view your work, because a friend has a friend and so on, and it may just fall into someone's hand that can further promote your skills or even land you a career. Exposure seems to be an important element in the film industry.
Good Luck!!
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26. November 2006 @ 20:41 |
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is any way that it is possible to add any type of copy protection (CSS, ACP, or some other type that I may not know about) on my computer without having to send anything anywhere,
No.
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27. November 2006 @ 00:59 |
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Like Weycraze said why make a movie you didn't want people to see. Isn't a porno is it. Do you star in this movie. Just kidding please don't hit me.
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ellisonCE
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27. November 2006 @ 12:51 |
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The main reason I am concerned about the copy protection is not because I dont want people to see it, but because I havn't had the time to copyright, and honestly, I would rather not have my work ripped off, no matter how small the chance. And I understand the whole delemia of how any encoding is easily circumvented using free software. I do plenty backing up of the many movies I love. However, we must remember that not all people are as skilled or knowledgeable as we are in that area :)
Oh well. Ill just have to live with it. If you cant change the circumstances, change your attitude. Thanks a bunch.
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27. November 2006 @ 16:03 |
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If your going on the notion of a person not being skilled enough to use circumventing programs to rip it off what would make you think they would be skilled enough to do anything else with it?
Plus if you are that worried about someone stealing the non-copyrighted material off the DVD then don't give it out.
It amazes me how often this question comes up. Plus how pointless it is when companies can not make a 100% encrypted DVD so how would you expect to make 1 yourself.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. November 2006 @ 16:05
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ellisonCE
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27. November 2006 @ 17:28 |
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I wasnt hoping to make a 100% encrypted DVD. Encrypting ANYTHING 100% is next to impossible. Its been proven that computers are absolutly not capable of making perfect encryption. This is because encryption is based on random numbers. These "random" numbers are based on algorythms which, in fact, generage only "psudo-random" numbers. What we get is somthing that is only CLOSE to random. It serves every day purposes, but it is impossible to PERFECTLY encrypt somthing. That I know. And anyone knows that it is possible to just drag and drop stuff off of one DVD or CD onto another. Not everyone knows of DVD Decrypter/Shrink. I dont wanna stiff my friends, but I dont want to get ripped off by them or any of their friends either.
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moonrocks
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29. November 2006 @ 12:55 |
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Well, the distinction bewteen pseudo random numbers and true random numbers isn't what makes encryption vulnerable. An encryption algorithm utilizing true random numbers is still susceptible, with enough CPU time, to a brute force attack.
I'd agree with the others who have posted that it wouldn't be worth the effort to try to encrypt your DVD's. If you still want to check it out though, I remember a while back someone at Doom9 was working on software to encrypt his DVD's.
You can read about it here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=106966
You can download his encryption software here:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54926
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ellisonCE
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29. November 2006 @ 14:55 |
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thats absolutly true: anything can be broken with enough time/brute force, but its just easier to do so when it its psudo random numbers. and thanks for the link. After the input from all these people, your probably right, but i think ill give it a try just for fun. thanks for all your help.
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moonrocks
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29. November 2006 @ 16:16 |
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Best of luck with your encryption efforts:) As an aside, and just for something to think about...
A brute force attack, by definition, would proceed against a true randomly generated key in the same manner, and take the same amount of time, as it would against a pseudo randomly generated key. There's no advantage at all to a true randomly generated key against a brute force attack.
Only key size defends, for a while, against a brute force attack.
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29. November 2006 @ 22:49 |
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I believe with a Pioneer DVR-201, Sonic Scenarist, and a CSS license, you can add in your own CSS. But the drive alone is a couple grand, Sonic is $5,000+, and the CSS license is $15,500 per year. And it all can be defeated with a plethora of free tools like DVD-Decrypter.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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30. November 2006 @ 06:39 |
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if you do a google search you can find a few programs that will do what you need to do, and they don't cost verry much, and one other thing you might look at if enough people see your work you might be able to strike it big in the video bizz, good luck happy burning have a nice day
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4. December 2006 @ 13:22 |
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This subject has been showing for a while I wonder if its the same person just looking for some kind of a program to block dummies. Look if Sony can't do it, You can't do it, they have more money then any of us, Yet anyone can copy their disc. If it's on disc you can burn it!
RBROCK
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movies27
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4. December 2006 @ 14:01 |
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Everything can't be copied.
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4. December 2006 @ 14:12 |
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Everthing I've put in my PC I've made a copy of it
RBROCK
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paiger651
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5. December 2006 @ 08:13 |
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You can do a coulple things with that software moonrocks posted the link to.I was able to use it and make DVD Shrink and Nero lock up that might be enough to stop your friends from making copies are maybe not:)
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res2cue
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5. December 2006 @ 17:31 |
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Originally posted by ellisonCE:
However, we must remember that not all people are as skilled or knowledgeable as we are in that area :)
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if they are skilled enough to do backups, they are smart enough to figure out removing basic encryptions.
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gus738
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5. December 2006 @ 19:35 |
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the truth is no copy protection is a real "copy protection" as everything can be copied . pay attention to cds first it was a big deal about copying bla bla bla and now they arent making a deal and they even let you d/l thro your ipod /legal p2p and what not .... dvds are still being focused for coping rights and yet many softwares can copy them....
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res2cue
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5. December 2006 @ 23:39 |
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absolutely 100% correct. I remember thinking the world was falling when I came across that first CD that I couldn't copy....
Hiram 319
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mbmprod
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10. December 2006 @ 09:30 |
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Hey
I tried the link to where i could download this tool but it was just a test file (ISO) that he wanted to test out on other dvdplayers. NOT the program itself. Tried to google but didn't find any programs.
I too see the point in copyprotecting a DVD that you've made. The thing is that just a little troubble copying will help. Most people don't know how to copy a copyprotected DVD, so if it doesn't work to put it in the dvddrive and press copy, then they give up. Even a "type inn password to copy" will help.
I want to copyprotect my private dvds. I know that its impossible to prevent copying, but i want to make it just a little bit harder than "press copy to duplicate DVD".
And i can't afford paying tons of money for the software. Any suggestions?
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10. December 2006 @ 11:10 |
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Lock them up in a vault throw away the key
RBROCK
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10. December 2006 @ 13:06 |
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you could just rar the files and have them password protected, how hard is that?
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10. December 2006 @ 13:55 |
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But then they could not play it he or she wants then to play it but not copy it, this comes up and it seems to be the same Person with a different name please stop
RBROCK
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10. December 2006 @ 13:58 |
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Or maybe he or she wants to find out how to do it and sell it to Sony
RBROCK
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paiger651
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10. December 2006 @ 15:20 |
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Evan though i got it to lock up in Shrink,Nero and Shrink with AnyDVD using that program anybody that has a little time can get it ripped.And i dont think Sony would sale many Dvd's with a big scratch on the disc and thats the only way i stoped Nero from making a quick copy was extending the last VTS_01_4 after the ending credits and putting a scratch on the bottom of the disc.Fun little program to just play around with though.
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