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19. January 2007 @ 03:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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taz1974
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19. January 2007 @ 22:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lp531,

im looking for a better motherboard. here is my info. can you reconmend one that will support all this.


(1)computer case http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...2477938&CatId=0 (69.99) on its way

(2)power supply http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...2440&CatId=2036 (119.99)please let me know if this will power what i have listed. i dont want to fry my stuff.

(3)mother board http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...7&sku=A455-2305 (154.99)

(4)floppy drive http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...54&sku=ULT31799 (ive already got this one)(24.99)

(5)dvd burner lite-on 20x dvd-+r burner w/12x dvd ram write & lightscribe technology black ide MODEL LH-20A1H-186 (already have this) (42.99) no pic

(6)dvd rom lite-on combo drive black ide model sohc-5236v bk rtl (23.99) (already have this) no pic

(7)hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136055 (79.99)have not bought yet

(8)memory- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145153 dont have yet

(9) cpu fan/heat sink http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...0&sku=T925-1168 dont have yet (12.99)

(10)processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103741 (169.99) dont have yet

(11)case fan (bay slot)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...73&sku=ULT30982 (7.99) dont have yet

(12) video card http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...46&sku=D15-9014 (69.99) dont have yet

(13) operating system- windows media center. not sure which one to get. there are two different ones. which one should i get?


the motherboard is no longer sold on tiger, so i looked on newegg, the reviews were not to good on it. said that you had to do alot of patching before it worked good. im not into all that. i dont know jack about patching. so im looking for a different board. any thoughts would be great. this is the old board shown here.

thanks,
taz1974

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19. January 2007 @ 23:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
taz1974,

Any particular reason you are going with AMD over Intel? Intel has the lead in dual core processors right now. Even the E6300 core 2 duo will outperform the 4200 and it's only a few dollars more. It's ultimately up to you of course.

If you wait a little bit Intel is going to up the L2 shared cache from 2M to 4M on the E6300 and E6400. The 4M shared L2 cache models will be called E6350 and E6450. E6600 and up already have 4M shared L2 cache.

You will need a matched set of memory (instead of a single stick) if you intend on running dual channel memory.

Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435
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19. January 2007 @ 23:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mort81,

well ive always have had amd. its what i kinda know right now. i may on my second build look into intel. any suggestions on a board for me. i have different memory than whats in the list. lp531 helped me pick good dual channel memory sticks. so im ready there. just didnt like the reviews on this board. i have changed my mind a hundred different times on things. i guess i want my first build to be good. and to last awhile.

taz1974
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19. January 2007 @ 23:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this would be my pic for a mobo

ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB Socket 939

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568

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@taz1974
What board are you looking at...link does not work?..
Remember I recommended diffrent momory...dual channel kit 2 sticks...you want to operate in dual channel mode...

This is memory I recommended:
CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145539

Is this the board you are looking at:
Asus M2N-SLI-Deluxe NVIDIA Socket AM2 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / SLI Ready / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID

I would not recommend an AMD cpu with SLI...if SLI is your goal go Intell...If you want the best bang for your buck...Go Intell


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lp531,
yes that was the board. it had alot of bad reviews from newegg. said that i would have to do alot of patching in order to get it to work great. i know nothing about that. i still am sticking with the memory you told me about. and still am looking into amd. sorry. maybe build 2 will be an intel. that is my original board just was worried about all the patches people were saying i would have to do to it. i want a board where all i have to do is take it out of the box and install everything with no problems. but i know there will always be something wrong somewhere. especially since this is my first build. if you think that my original board is still a good choice ill stick with it. i guess if i have any hang ups ill come to you again.

thanks,
taz1974
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20. January 2007 @ 00:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@taz1974
The memory you listed is not what I recommended...see my post above...that is what I recommended...dual channel kit...just want to make sure you do not buy a single stick...single channel...

Just took a good look at spec's...Do not like that it only has 1 IDE...can only run 2 optical drives...so no PATA hard drives...

Only 2 PCI slots...I prefer at least 3 PCI slots...not a very future proof board for the money...

However I do like ASUS motherboards...just not this one...the review at newegg did not scare me...you will have to do alot of what he was talking about on any board you purchase...


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lp531,

i know the memory listed is not what you reconmmended. i already have what you said set aside. this was from my first post when you first helped me. so go with another board then. that is what im looking at now. ill send you a few types if you dont mind looking at them and helping me choose one.
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20. January 2007 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sure...send away...just wanted to make sure you got the right stuff...


taz1974
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Liked the EPOX the best...3 PCI Slots...2 IDE Contollers...solid caps...don't really like layout...but thats not a deal breaker...

The last one you listed is for a micro ATX case...not a full size ATX case...

Let me take a look around and see what I can come up with...I'll get back to you tomorrow on that...


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20. January 2007 @ 01:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lp531,

thanks again. have a good day. ill check in with you tonight when i come into work. later.
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20. January 2007 @ 08:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
taz1974, heres the case i got a few weeks ago , its worth checking out




http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15900#
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20. January 2007 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
aabbccdd,

Are you sure that's not a wind tunnel? :)

Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435
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lol Mort with the 200mm fan on top it almost is!!

my temps are running at least 10 degrees cooler with this case
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20. January 2007 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what do you think of this computer http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/...duct_uid=116052 with this graphics card http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-134-SP need feed back thanks .
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@hoddey
Do not see a mention of a PCI-Express Slot under specification...make sure you can add a video card to it...lots of the factory boxes do not have expansion slots...check before you buy...


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20. January 2007 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Lp531 can i just buy a new case or is PCI-Express Slot on the motherboard . is the graphics card ok
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Originally posted by hoddey:
@Lp531 can i just buy a new case or is PCI-Express Slot on the motherboard . is the graphics card ok
i found this if it helps he memory is branded (2 x 512Mb Sticks)

Hynix 512MB 1Rx8 PC2-4200U-444-122
KOREA01 HYMP564U64BP8-C4 AB-T 0629
which = 512MB DDR2 533

The Harddrive is a 160 Gb Hitachi Deskstar
Model HDT722516DLA380
(Serial ATA 7,200 rpm 8 meg cache)

Partitioned as
1 x PQSERVICE (FAT) 6Gb
1 x ACER (NTFS) 73Gb
1 x ACERDATA (FAT32)73Gb
1 x Unallocated 4Gb

The mobo is labeled MCP61SM-AM Rev:1.0

2 x Standard PCI Slots

(Graphic Slot as listed on Ebuyer Spec Page)

It has 4 ram slots ( 2 used)

2 x SATA (1 Used)
1 x IDE (used for Dvd Burner Drive)
1 x Unused Floppy

ATX v2 power connector

PSU is branded Delta Electronics ....
Output 250W Max.

Has 1 unused Sata power connector

2 unused Standard Molex connectors

1 Unused Floppy drive power connector

6 pin Firewire port on rear

Nice solid roomy case with 1 x 80mm Internal Fan
and quick release lever for easy access to pci
slots. Room for at least 4 hard drives
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The slot is on the MB...nothing listed here to tell me you could add any video card to it...the card is fine...at a descent price...I just don't think it will work with this computer...


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20. January 2007 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think nvidia 6100 is a form of integrated graphics. The mobo specs doesn't indicate whether or not there are any PCIe slots (I doubt it) or even AGP slots.

Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435
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@Lp531 i found this for the NVIDIA 6100 spec http://www.cooltechzone.com/Reviews/Main...w_200509291830/ so the Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) will work if not can you point me in the right place to get a good one about the same price or less thank you . from a newbie
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Its "Integrated" video chip...which means...you can not add a video card to this computer...Trust Me...


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20. January 2007 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hoddey:
@Lp531 i found this for the NVIDIA 6100 spec http://www.cooltechzone.com/Reviews/Main...w_200509291830/ so the Sapphire ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) will work if not can you point me in the right place to get a good one about the same price or less thank you . from a newbie
the power supply is a 250w will upgrade
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