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27. January 2007 @ 08:34 |
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herrick,
What is the mobo you want to put this thing in?
I like the FX-60 better but I really haven't messed with the FX series chips. Going by what little specs are available I like it. My buddy has an Opty and loves it but this processor looks GOOD. btw the 185 has 2MB L2 cache too. They both have 2x1MB.
Can't wait for an answer by the real builders. aabbccdd, Mort81, Lp531 let's here it....
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Got a question too. lol. What if herrick spent a little more money and got a new mobo with an Intel E6600? You would get quite a bit more performance and be on the edge of new tech, right?? Just wondering/thinking outloud....
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27. January 2007 @ 10:06 |
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herrick, yeah there BOTH 2MB cache i would opt for the Opteron 185 being it brand in the box.(thats the same chip i have) the FX-60 at Tiger Direct looks like it may be refurbished being its OEM meaning no fan no box no manual etc. if it were me i would steer clear of that one. plus the Opteron 185 will actually OC better.
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Got a question too. lol. What if herrick spent a little more money and got a new mobo with an Intel E6600? You would get quite a bit more performance and be on the edge of new tech, right??
YES this is correct if he wanted to spend the extra cash (wouldn't be that much more though)
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27. January 2007 @ 12:19 |
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What does it mean when a CPU come OEM? I realize no fan, what else?
I am not very familiar with AMD's but with Intel, a retail cpu will have a 3 year warranty where the oem only has 1 year. Retail you get a nice box with intallation instructions as with oem all you get is a plain box and no instructions.
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28. January 2007 @ 13:38 |
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28. January 2007 @ 13:43 |
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28. January 2007 @ 14:51 |
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good evening guy.. i just wiped clean my 100gb HD put window xp home editon on it.. had a few small problems with it but i got it up and running good.. i go to install nortons 2007 on it. i put the disc in the drive the install window opens up. i see install nortons, view disc and exit. i click on install nortons and the drive spins up, nothing else happens...i did before i had windows working properly started the nortons install and the system crashed in the middle of the install....
any idea here????
thanks in advance.
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28. January 2007 @ 14:55 |
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hoddey,
That case is very similiar to my old case, It was an antec too. Although overall a descent case, It is quite heavy (not aluminum) and is not truely tooless as you do need to screw rails to the optical drives and mount the hdd's with screws. A cooler master or thermaltake case would be a better choice imo but then again that is just my 2 cents.
I still don't understand why you're going AMD instead of Intel core 2 duo.
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28. January 2007 @ 15:37 |
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cincyrob, nortons really a sub-par program i had many problems with it. go to "My Computer" double click the drive that norton disc is in and it should start up or install the free AVG or avast. till you get it sorted. Trend Micro ,NOD35 or Kaspersky are the way to go
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28. January 2007 @ 17:58 |
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@cincyrob,
I agree with aabbccdd, you can do better than Nortons. AVG Free 7.5 is good or Avast is ok too. I use AVG and have been very happy with it for about 3 years. Here is the thread with some of the free computer protection items.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/292257
Good stuff give it a try....... :)
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28. January 2007 @ 18:18 |
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thanks for the link there greensman..thank you to aabbccdd.. you guys are great with all this info..
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28. January 2007 @ 18:19 |
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@ greensman
My mobo and all my equip. are per my sig. The reason I do not go for E6600 build now is easy $$$$$ the prosser will run about 364.00 w/ tax... If I go the other way- you are talking money for a new mobo and new memory...I cannot trasfer my memory over- thats a $260.00 loss. It is cheaper for now to go w/ the AMD, then wait for tne end of this year to build the E6600, by then most of the up-dates and patchs will be worked out for this new stuff...happens every change over LOL [spend $365.00 or $1100 + or-]
@ aabbccdd and Mort 81 thanks for your input..
Took some time getting back to ya...went to the ER...have two bad teeth, face swelled up like a basket ball.Then the 80 gig was put to rest, and that turned into a bunch of drama- still loading programs.
Will put off the CPU for now- I do believe the dentest is going to have a good month.
Thanks again everyone
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28. January 2007 @ 19:00 |
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herrick, hope your doing better soon
also the AMD 939 sockets CPUs aren't probably going to last long. so some food for though
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28. January 2007 @ 19:19 |
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@ aabbccdd
Did not see the fx-60 at newegg, but did see the Opty 185- How much of a differance do you think Ill see from my CPU that I have now? [Ithought you had what i have now before you up graded]
I notice that the opty 185 has a locked multi and the FX-60 does not...read this in a review what does it mean?
I really want to know how much more gain will I see from what I have now?
Also thank you for your concern... been putting my teeth problem off for awhile and now paying for it- hate doctors glade they are here- but do not like visiting them- spent to much time and and money... not to mention flesh... LOL [been shot to many times in my youth-was not the sharpest pencial in the box]
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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28. January 2007 @ 19:25 |
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i OD(ed) my Opteron 185 to 2.87 GHz with no problems using the same mobo you have. so i did notice a difference between the Opty 175 and the 185 i have now . not a huge difference but you can def. tell. i am not sure on the locked multi sam or JR would know
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28. January 2007 @ 19:40 |
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@ aabbccdd
Thanks bro...
@ all
Anyone else like to share some insight on my gain from my sig. to a Opty 185?
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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28. January 2007 @ 19:42 |
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herrick,
Sorry to hear that your teeth hate you right now. lol. Get better soon buddy.
I may be able to absorb some of the $$$$ if you want. :O I would be willing to buy your 4200 dual-core if the price was right. I've been looking for a cheap way to ente into the dual-core cpu for some time now but I've been unwilling to go all the way. Not unlike yourself. lol.
I will build late this year, God willing, a new Intel Core-Duo system. I just can't stand it anylonger. lol.
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29. January 2007 @ 05:29 |
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@All...
Quick question...should i always leave my new build on, day and night, or is it better to shut it down when not in use.
Thanks
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29. January 2007 @ 09:24 |
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shuboy00, its ok to leave it on all the time but you need to reboot a few times a week at least
i myself shut mine down when i am not home ,overnight etc.
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29. January 2007 @ 11:03 |
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@ greensman
PM me about the 4200+ Dualcore... I will get back to you as soon as I can, Ill be in and out of my apt. today
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29. January 2007 @ 19:59 |
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--The test of a man is the fight that he makes...
Kreative Klick
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shuboy00
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29. January 2007 @ 20:02 |
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Originally posted by aabbccdd:
shuboy00, its ok to leave it on all the time but you need to reboot a few times a week at least
i myself shut mine down when i am not home ,overnight etc.
Thanks man...I will do the same...no need for it to be on at night unless I am running something.
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1. February 2007 @ 13:58 |
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ok dumb question here. whats the difference between windows vista 32bit and 64bit???? what actually does that mean to a dummy like myself?
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1. February 2007 @ 16:43 |
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@cincyrob,
Don't worry about it rob, you'll never be able to afford a machine that will run a 64 bit OS. lmao......
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,111508-page,1/article.html
Man I'm just funnin ya. Here is a pretty good article that may explain some of the questions that you have. Hopefully some of the guys will kick in here too. :)
edit: cincyrob you're not a dummy just not educated or informed about everything there is in the universe. LOL. Me neither btw. rofl.....
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1. February 2007 @ 16:58 |
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damn!!! i want one!!!!!...lol nice artical there greensman
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2. February 2007 @ 08:17 |
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thing of it is that theres next to no software that is true 64bit and only farcry(that i know of) that will run in 64bit.
i tried the free trail last year for the xp64bit and there was next to no drivers out aswell so i had to use generic ones for my driver and printer which didnt work all to well.
its a great theory and when software catches up it will be a must have.
i hope the new vi$ta 64bit os will make more software houses support it.
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on the oem thing.
retail your warenty is from amd/intel with an oem its from the place of purchase, so the timescale of it will depend on that particular shop/e-tailer.
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