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18. April 2007 @ 00:01 |
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Acetone also works well.
Make sure it is just acetone,(available at hardware stores)not the nail polish remover kind as that usually has additives.
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redice
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18. April 2007 @ 08:48 |
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ok thanks crowy
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tomygntom
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18. April 2007 @ 18:43 |
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hey this is a budget bangish for buck setup i put together
case and mobo: Shuttle SK22G2 SE http://au.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/SK22G2.asp
cpu:AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, dual core,
ram: 2 x 1gig dual channel cheap, Proly kingston value, ram
dvd: cheap dvdrw
hd: 160 gig dont know if sata or pata , seagate or western digi
gcard: GeForce 7900 GS 256MB, PCI Express
i want to use this for gaming but dont care too much about really good graphics but fairly decent fps. also does any one know of a good/cheap tv tuner card that has satilite input and rca output that i could put in
im think im fairly happy with most of the parts except maybe the case/ mobo/psu thing,any one know a better case/mobo/psu combo that costs about the same as this one($400NZ,dont know how much US$) oh and it has to be one of those little cubey kinda ones. and a tv tuner card
any sugestions or help would be greeate (sorry about grama and shit)
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21. April 2007 @ 01:10 |
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Hey im in the process of my first build.
I know what parts i need to get, but hooking it all up and all those complicated looking cables? no way!
Ahaha. So yeh, do you think you guys could help a building noob out :D
*flutters eyelashes* :P
Id be greatful :D
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21. April 2007 @ 01:14 |
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Course il be here for a few mins give me your questions and il answer them as best i can :-)
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21. April 2007 @ 01:24 |
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Thanks mate :D
Well, my processors due to arrive today, then the other parts should be coming in a week or 2.
So ill post all questions and things then ! :D
I just read that link that Mort81 posted about some artic silver thing for your processor. Im now scared....it seems alot more complicated lol, i dont have a clue what thats about.
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21. April 2007 @ 01:29 |
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Okkay...
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I just read that link that Mort81 posted about some artic silver thing for your processor
All i can say is your bloody lucky you read that! Without that stuff the processor would have just burnt out. Arctic silver is thermal grease. This is needed to make sure optimum heat transfer from your CPU to Heatsink. Therefore order some should be about £5. Then before you attach the heatsink to the CPU make sure you make a SMOOTH LAYER. of arctic silver over the cpu. Then press down with the heatsink.
Hope that helps!!
Ooo and out of intrest whats your set up gonna be? Like to hear new set ups gives me that lovely sense of jealousy!
Any more questions just ask!!
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21. April 2007 @ 01:49 |
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Thanks ireland!![afterdawn legend]
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21. April 2007 @ 01:55 |
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billybob,
as you're buying a retail version of the CPU, you'll get a heatsink and fan supplied with it, that will already have heatsink compound on it, just remove the protective cover and put it on the cpu/board as shown in the guide supplied with the CPU.
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21. April 2007 @ 02:02 |
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When you say it will already have a heatsink compound on/with it...does that mean its already got that artic grease thing on it aswell?
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21. April 2007 @ 02:16 |
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Ok :-) Nah i love helping!
Heatsink as im sure youve found out is to stop your cpu blasting into flames. Now by quick looks at that processor doesnt look like you bought the one with the official heatsink which is good in my opinion. It leave the options open to get a much better heatsink than the standard crappy one which comes with the processor.
So id reccomend probably:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/101471
Thats a great little heatsink! And very well known to be great value!
Also with something like that your much more likely to get a good overclock!!
Anyway will help with ram problem in a few hours bit pushed for time atm!!
See ya
Lecsiy
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21. April 2007 @ 02:29 |
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Okkkk
So it will or will not come with a fan and heatsink lol?
If not, ill buy that one that lecsiy reccomended. And even if it does, if its possible to change...ill still buy it lol.
Now. Sorry for being slow to catch on....but from what ive gathered, the heatsink is.... some foil thing that goes over the processor? Thats from a google. And i need to get some of that grease and rub it onto the processor UNDER the foil?
Ahh my poor noobish brain lol. Any help/further information is appreciated :D
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21. April 2007 @ 02:30 |
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Oopsie daisie that heatsinks out of stock...
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21. April 2007 @ 03:18 |
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This is the description from the link you posted a few commet ago:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Socket AM2 Dual Core (2.2GHz) 512kb L2 Cache AM2 Retail Boxed Processor
Retail units have heatsinks included (like I said).
Its not going to be fantastic compared to after market coolers, but whilst you are getting the thing running and even to a certain level of OC'ing it will perform perfectly well.
That just leaves you with the choice to get another cooler, not the necessity to get one.
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21. April 2007 @ 04:26 |
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Thank you very much BigDK :D
Now, as you said the retail processor comes with the heatsink..will i still need to put that thermal grease on it?
Thank you.
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21. April 2007 @ 05:27 |
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The last few AMD CPU's I bought had the thermal compound already on the heatsink/fan that came with it.
The last few aftermarket fans I bought didnt come with it already applied.
A friends build, I took the compound off the fan that came with it using alcohol, and put on Arctic Silver for a few °C difference. Since he wasnt an OC'er I only needed stock fan but gave it the good grease anyway.
Hope that helps.
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21. April 2007 @ 05:45 |
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So does this thermal grease go on the fan or the processor?
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21. April 2007 @ 07:20 |
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foxdie
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21. April 2007 @ 13:30 |
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Heres what I came up with. I need some input on motherboards.
Intel Core 2 Due E6600 $235
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003
Seagate 500GB SATA Frys $120
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4697788
Ati Radeon X1650 Pro 512MB PCI Express $119
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Ati Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB PCI Express $149
(I do not game, but for $30 more I prefer the X1950, since it will probably have better resale value if I upgrade later. what do you think? is it worth it or will it cause my other components to need to be upgraded?)
Antec P180 case $80
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-430 ATX12V 430W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103928
Will this be sufficient?
2GB DDR2 800
Pioneer DVR-710
I need advice on a motherboard. I'd like something inline with the other components I've selected. Let me know if a component listed above is inadequate(PSU). anything else I need Fans, etc?
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21. April 2007 @ 14:05 |
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@foxdie---
I dont know much about video cards, but I think that PSU is a little weak. 430W is less than most Dells come with nows a days and custom parts need more love than a Dell would.
You asked about fans, I didnt see a link for your case and I'm too lazy to search, but in the details it should tell you how many and what size fan bays it has. The case might come with 1 but you will have to check and see what all is sent with it, you may want more anyway, more are always good unless you buy loud ones.
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21. April 2007 @ 14:25 |
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C2D E6600 for $235 WOW. 75 bucks less than I paid for mine. I'm curious to know just how OC friendly the new ones are. I've heard guestimations of around 3.0ghz to 3.2ghz but no actual results yet.
looks like intel is trying to get rid of the 65nm 4M L2 cache chips to make way for their 45nm 6M L2 cache chips. I noticed the 4x20 series chips are starting to show up.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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foxdie
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21. April 2007 @ 15:50 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
@foxdie---
I dont know much about video cards, but I think that PSU is a little weak. 430W is less than most Dells come with nows a days and custom parts need more love than a Dell would.
You asked about fans, I didnt see a link for your case and I'm too lazy to search, but in the details it should tell you how many and what size fan bays it has. The case might come with 1 but you will have to check and see what all is sent with it, you may want more anyway, more are always good unless you buy loud ones.
thanks for the response. what about the processors fan? it comes with one, but would I need to upgrade to a better one?
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21. April 2007 @ 16:07 |
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Originally posted by foxdie:
it comes with one, but would I need to upgrade to a better one?
Not unless you let these guys talk you into seeing how fast it can be OC'd! If that happens, you will really need the bigger PSU and more fans like you asked about B4!!!
Save your money, if you decide to go that route later on, you can always buy one later. Or spend that money now on better video card or RAM.
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21. April 2007 @ 16:27 |
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I came across some people recommending this motherboard, Asus P5N-E SLI for use with the E6600.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...CMP=OTC-17exta6
Is there a better choice for a mobo, since this one appears to be designed for SLI. Can I use an ATi video card with this motherboard? It offers a PCI express x16, but maybe its designed for better preformance with nvidia's??
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21. April 2007 @ 17:05 |
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it will work with ati or nvidia PCIe video cards.
that's a good board for the money. there are better mobos that have the nvidia 680i chipset or intel 975 chipset, but they also cost more.
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