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4. May 2007 @ 10:13 |
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Update on my latest build.
I've so far managed to turn this mess.

Into this slightly less messy beast.

Its made up of the 2 main parts as seen, the bottom part is used to house the Phase Cooler which has now shipped so will be here Sat/Mon any luck.

Here's the view of the mobo area, as can be seen it's running with the stock CPU cooler until the phase arrives, plus one of the UV tubes has come unstuck at one end (time for some glueing).

The other side of the case, showing how bored I got whilst waiting for parts.

This one taken in the dark, but it doesn't really do the whole thing justice.

System:
Mobo: Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi Rev C2 BIOS 0910
CPU: Intel E6600 Model F, Stepping 6 Rev B2
Memory: Corsair Dominator 8500 C5 2x 1GB 2.1V with AirFlow Fans
GPU: Galaxy 7900 GTX Clocked at 1700/700
Soundcard: Creative X-Fi Music Extreme Platinum
HDD: 3xWD Raptors + 1xWD Raptor (different tests) 3xWD2500KS
DVD-R: Samsung SH-D162C Kreon firmware
DVD-RW: Plextor PX-716-A
PSU: Enermax Galaxy 1000W
Water-Cooling:
EK-79 GPU Block
Swiftech MCW-30 Chipset block
EK-Mosfet Block
MasterKleer 7/16" Clear Tubing
XSPC 5.25" Bay Res
Thermochill PA120.3 Triple Rad
Laing D5 Pump
Fesser UV Blue coolant
Phase Cooler: Chilly1 Xtreme Edition
Case:
Top: Mountain Mods Aluminium Cube 18"x18"x18"
Base: MDF Self build
Fans: Loads of them.
Lighting: Loads of them as well.
AC Ryan Steel mesh
AC Ryan UV Acrylic
and loads of other bits and bobs as well.
There are a few extra bits to do, such as fit the LEDs for the pwr and hdd activity, and I'm also waiting for a few more SATA cables to arrive.
Obvioulsy when the cooler turns up, its a case of cutting a hole in the bottom of the main case and the top of the bottom case to pass the cooling arm through.
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4. May 2007 @ 10:33 |
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Nice Rig!!! I like the Custom made Lower case to house the phase cooler...
I was wondering how you were going to mount the phase cooler in a standard case...
I figured you were building a open work station type rig with the phase cooler mounted outside...
Very Nice Indeed!!!
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4. May 2007 @ 12:04 |
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Thanks.
It took a while to come up with that idea, I've seeen some people put the phase cooler inside the MM cases, but it was goinf to get pretty cramped in there, plus I also have the additional water cooling to get in there.
Its been referred to as the fridge quite a few times now, and i'm starting to refer to it as the fridge, as it seems to suit it.
I'm now just getting fed up waiting for the cooler to turn up so I can start to push the system to what its capable of.
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4. May 2007 @ 12:29 |
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can any1 tell me where i can pick up a cheap hard drive from 200gb to 500gb? and i also needs some cheap 1gb-2gb ddr ram. thanks!
p.s i have an ethernet modem which i use for the internet. if i connected a usb wifi stick into a usb slot, could i use the pc to share the ethernet connection wirelessly? like use the pc as a router?
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4. May 2007 @ 12:40 |
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4. May 2007 @ 14:40 |
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Originally posted by aszbaz: p.s i have an ethernet modem which i use for the internet. if i connected a usb wifi stick into a usb slot, could i use the pc to share the ethernet connection wirelessly? like use the pc as a router?
No, you need a wireless router plugged into the Ethernet modem.
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4. May 2007 @ 15:38 |
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@BigDK,
That rig is awesome 8-D, i bet that you are gonna put e6600 into it limits!.
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4. May 2007 @ 15:39 |
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@aszbaz---
The router does the routing, the USB stick, or in my case the PCI wireless card, does the receiving/sending.
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4. May 2007 @ 20:31 |
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Red_Maw
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4. May 2007 @ 23:51 |
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Hi, I'm designing a computer and would like some input on dual cores. This computer will be used mostly for games and video playback, but also needs to handle office applications(word,excel etc.) and design programs such as AutoCAD. I am weighing my options between something on the more expensive side (AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600) or a cheaper processor like the AMD Athlon 64 4000/3800. All comments/opinions are welcome.
Thanks.
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4. May 2007 @ 23:53 |
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Is the drive already installed on the Intel SATA port, or is it on the Jmicron port.
You may be better off just doing a clean install, but download all the drivers to a seperate drive or disk ready for the install.
I've linked to the following document plenty of times before, but it is about as good as it gets for a guide to install XP correctly, the guy has done a great job.
http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html
Loading the system correctly and in the right order does make a big difference to how well it works.
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5. May 2007 @ 00:05 |
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@eparker89
Is there a particular reason you are leaning towards AMD at the moment.
There are several Intel CPUs all within your budget that will be a better choice than the top AMD chip you listed.
The E6320, E6420, E4400, E4300 are all excellent chips and will allow a much better upgrade path in the future as AM2 is already starting to be phased out with the next versions from AMD.
At least Intel are keeping the LGA775 design.
If you're already using an AM2 board, then any of the CPUs you listed would work ok, AMD CPUs are still very good for gaming, and you won't have any issues multitasking with the apps you've listed.
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5. May 2007 @ 02:15 |
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Ahhhh im so annoyed! I actually had something to contribute to you there greensman :(
What i was gonna say was, i picked up an AMD ATHLONG 64 x 2 4200+ off ebuyer.com for £58.50 including postage and things (i got £10 discount for using google checkout).
That was a real bargain seeings as it was about £100 a few weeks ago.... Thats 2.2ghz, dual core so im guessing that doulbes to 4.4?
Thanks ireland!![afterdawn legend]
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5. May 2007 @ 06:55 |
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@all thanks for your input. I went with this from newegg because there was free shipping on the cpu and they had a little bit better hs fan in my book. :)
@BigDK,
All I can say is I like the new "fridge" you got going there. WOW!! she's a beaut mate!
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5. May 2007 @ 08:01 |
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billybob,
Quote: Thats 2.2ghz, dual core so im guessing that doulbes to 4.4?
sorry charlie, there's 2 cores running @ 2.2ghz. the clock speed is still 2.2ghz.
greensman,
not a bad choice considering you already have an AMD socket 939 mobo. that cpu is oem however so your warrenty will only be 1 year. I'm assuming you ordered an aftermarket hsf and some artic silver 5.
BigDK,
did you get your new E6600 yet? I'm curious as to how OC friendly the new ones are and if anybody will know it will be you. :) our friend DocTY ordered a new Q6600 kentsfield quad core. he wanted a new 1333 fsb quad core but couldn't wait any longer.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435
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5. May 2007 @ 09:27 |
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Quote: sorry charlie, there's 2 cores running @ 2.2ghz. the clock speed is still 2.2ghz.
*MORTIFIED*
But surely....in a way it is kind of like 4.4 ghz because for the processes that would normally clog your one core...they are being done on the other one? Sorry for the non-techincal language, im a noob at this.
So, say you were just chattin on msn messenger and some other things, wouldnt both of the cores just concentrate on the same thing?
Can you try and explain it a bit better to me please mort :)
Thanks ireland!![afterdawn legend]
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5. May 2007 @ 09:37 |
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it's kind of like having 2 different pc's each at 2.2ghz. you can be doing things on both at the same time without them being bogged down. the computers aren't really any faster but you can multi-task much more efficient.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435
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5. May 2007 @ 09:45 |
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Oh i see.
*kinda bummed*
Thanks ireland!![afterdawn legend]
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5. May 2007 @ 09:48 |
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Alright, I have decided to get the E6600 as my cpu and am now looking for a gpu. What are the recommended mid-range cards that I can OC for more higher performance?
Thanks.
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5. May 2007 @ 09:54 |
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Hope I'm not butting in here but need a little advice!Just ordered this case & wanting to build a Dual core as close to 3GHz as possible.I D/L & Do video conversions mostly.Not interested in Gaming
Also need a Video Card W/Dual Monitor support[1 is really a 37"LCD TV]
A sound card W/5. or 6.,& speakers to match
If their is something better & more reasonably priced Please inform me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811117084
Eagle Tech ET-CAV2-RD-WOP Red 1.0mm Aluminum Aluminum Mid-Tower Multi-Function Viper LCD Display Tool less function chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$90.00 free after Rebate,shipping only $16.00
I'm hoping it will be adaquate to my needs,as I can't really find a spec sheet on it.But it looks like it's got about 10 bays internal & external.I pretty much intend utilizing all the bays
This is the Power Supply I'm considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151028
SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC
$159.99
What ever Brd & Pros. I go with this is the Memory I'm considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
($109.00 after $50.00 Mail-In Rebate)
Now any help from here on would be appreciated
Last Question! Is their an adapter to use Sata cables frm Power Supply to 4Pin Molex Female..All I can find is 4Pin Male.Don't even really know if the power is the same W/SATA as IDE
Many thanks to all at AFTERDAWN for all the help over the years,this site has really become an asset to me
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rick5446
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5. May 2007 @ 09:54 |
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Hope I'm not butting in here but need a little advice!Just ordered this case & wanting to build a Dual core as close to 3GHz as possible.I D/L & Do video conversions mostly.Not interested in Gaming
Also need a Video Card W/Dual Monitor support[1 is really a 37"LCD TV]
A sound card W/5. or 6.,& speakers to match
If their is something better & more reasonably priced Please inform me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811117084
Eagle Tech ET-CAV2-RD-WOP Red 1.0mm Aluminum Aluminum Mid-Tower Multi-Function Viper LCD Display Tool less function chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$90.00 free after Rebate,shipping only $16.00
I'm hoping it will be adaquate to my needs,as I can't really find a spec sheet on it.But it looks like it's got about 10 bays internal & external.I pretty much intend utilizing all the bays
This is the Power Supply I'm considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151028
SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC
$159.99
What ever Brd & Pros. I go with this is the Memory I'm considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
($109.00 after $50.00 Mail-In Rebate)
Now any help from here on would be appreciated
Last Question! Is their an adapter to use Sata cables frm Power Supply to 4Pin Molex Female..All I can find is 4Pin Male.Don't even really know if the power is the same W/SATA as IDE
Many thanks to all at AFTERDAWN for all the help over the years,this site has really become an asset to me
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5. May 2007 @ 11:02 |
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@eparker89
you're not going to be dissapointed with the E6600, they are fantastic CPUs.
Even at stock speed they perform great especially with the 4MB cache.
@Mort81
I have got my new E6600 in the P5B which is in my new case.
I haven't pushed it yet as it is using the stock retail cooler until the phase turns up.
All I've done so far is up the FSB to 410, but the multiplier is down at x6.
The phase cooler was supposed to ship Thurs/Fri but I didn't get the email confirming it, so not sure if it will turn up Tuesday or not.
So far the water cooling keeps the chipset nice and cool, thats running at 24`c, and the GPU even OC'd is still in the mid 30's.
I'm reasonably confident I've got another good chip but will post the results as soon as I get them (hopefully soon)
I managed to sell the E4300 for £3 less than a brand new one, so I did all right there, at least the guy who bought it has got a good overclocker for his money.
@greensman
Thanks for the feedback on the fridge.
It's been quite a lot of work getting it to where it is now I was determined to get things right first time with it.
Its a bit of a beast, most people are quite speachless when they see it in front of them.
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5. May 2007 @ 13:09 |
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@BigDK: thanks for your help.
@All: I am looking at the HIS X850XT PE but am wondering if I could get better performance out of two HIS X850 crossfires? Does anyone have any experience with dual gpus or would you recommend staying with the PE?
Thanks.
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5. May 2007 @ 13:18 |
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oh poop. i hate wireless, as its way to easy to bypass the security with a little knowledge. i only wanted it for my psp!
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6. May 2007 @ 09:04 |
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wait, couldnt u bridge the LAN connection with the wifi adapter? sorry, im a noob to wifi.
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