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18. September 2007 @ 05:06 |
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I have a black background and it says Abuzar on the top, with the Pakistani naval jack on the bottom. I'll post a pic later, thanks.
EDIT: This is what it looks like.
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18. September 2007 @ 14:30 |
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@mort81,
Hey buddy how is that P/S working out for you. I love the case. Cooler Master Elite 330. Good case for $28. :D
I've been monitoring my voltages on the P/S and it seems to run a little low on the 12V and the 5V. I'm using PC Probe II by ASUS and it shows the readings of 12V = 11.71 and 5V = 4.89. The other P/S (Apevia) showed 12V = 12.05 and 5V = 4.97. I don't know much about this and just want some "comfort" on the readings and the stability of the unit. It's still way within tolerances but like I said I don't know much about this. :)
...gm
The case is great!! I'm showing 4-8*C lower temps (now) with the new case and added fan. What a difference. Thanks again buddy. :D btw the case "works" better with the sides on. I guess the "wind" from the fans is better directed.
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18. September 2007 @ 14:49 |
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@greensman
Your 12v is running a little low...It is better to be a little Over then Under...It is however with in tolerance...
Is this the Cooler Master P/S?..
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18. September 2007 @ 14:52 |
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greensman,
I'm still waiting on a replacement hdd for the one that was DOA. newegg was out of exact make and model so they gave me a refund. I ordered a seagate 250gb.
I haven't had a chance to go any further other than to get into the bios without the hdd. the case seems to be descent enough especially for no more than what it cost. it could stand to be made out of a little heavier gauge iron. it doesn't even compare with my CM mystique case but then again it only cost about 1/4 as much.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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18. September 2007 @ 15:20 |
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Originally posted by Lp531:
@greensman
Your 12v is running a little low...It is better to be a little Over then Under...It is however with in tolerance...
Is this the Cooler Master P/S?..
Yep the Cooler Master eXtreme Power 500W.....
I think it's ok but like most "low end" P/S it does have it's flaws. LOL. I will be getting something BETTER (more power I'm saying...where's Tim Taylor when you need him??) with the next build. Of course the Intel C2D and a little better case too. LOL.
NOT knocking what I already got but you guys with your Intel C2D are making me look LITTLE. hehehe. :P
....gm
NO matter the outcome I appreciate your help Mort81. :D Have you checked out the STACKER by CM?? Pretty cool I think. ;)
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19. September 2007 @ 04:27 |
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The stackers are awesome. The 810 has the oldskool big server look to it, whereas the 830 and 832 have the 'I bought a huge case' sort of look.
As for the voltages, they're pretty low I have to say, that's something you ought to be concerned about. A good power supply will never dip below 11.9V on the +12 or below 4.9V on the +5.
I personally would say Apevia make far worse power supplies than Coolermaster, but there we go.
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19. September 2007 @ 06:03 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The stackers are awesome. The 810 has the oldskool big server look to it, whereas the 830 and 832 have the 'I bought a huge case' sort of look.
As for the voltages, they're pretty low I have to say, that's something you ought to be concerned about. A good power supply will never dip below 11.9V on the +12 or below 4.9V on the +5.
I personally would say Apevia make far worse power supplies than Coolermaster, but there we go.
YEH YEH YEH!!! I think that CM makes a pretty good P/S but like most companies the low end stuff is just that. It's running nicely tho and steady for what I have in the machine. 2 SATA HDD, 4 ODD (2 IDE 2 SATA), 7600GT OC, 4 - 512 DDR PC3200 RAM, X2 3800 939 cpu, 2 120mm case fans, ASUS 8N5X mobo (i think, at work and can't remember the exact model #).
You think I need more that 500W?? lol
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19. September 2007 @ 09:35 |
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Nah, you're probably only pulling 300W of power, but you need a well made power supply, the rating's almost irrelevant.
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19. September 2007 @ 10:25 |
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hai i looked around the forum and tried to find the most updated and best pc i can make. my budget is from 1000$ to 1500$. and i want a high end gaming pc.i found those specifications in this thread for a good pc
Motherboard: $162
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 (V3.3) P965 ATX DDRII533 FSB1066 PCIEx16 SATAII RAID GbELAN VDuBIOS Model: GA-965P-DS3(V3.3)
CPU: $240
Intel CORE 2 DUO E6750 2.66GHz
PSU: $162
Thermaltake Tough Power 600W PSU(14CM Fan)
Memory: $193.50
G.SKILL -F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK - 2 GB (1GB x 2) PC2-6400 (DDR2-667)
Video Card: $166.85
eVGA e-GeForce 8600GT PCI-E 256MB 128-bit DDR3, 540/1400MHz, Dual Dual Link DVI, HDTV/HDCP, Fan
Case: $129
Thermaltake VB1000BWS Soprano Black Case No PSU
Hard Drive: $100
I'll buy a 160GB here in Darwin
DVD Burner: $60.50
Sony AWG170SB2B - 18x DVD+/-R/RW Dual Layer DVD Burner, SATA - OEM Black
there r some questions i need to ask. isnt the Asus have best mobos becasue i wanted to buy Asus but my friend said its bios is not that good. and graphics card can i get better one or this one is good enough. i will be very thankful for the help
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19. September 2007 @ 10:31 |
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dreamer2,
Where are you from?? I'm guessing Australia.. ;) with the Darwin comment..
If not and from the US you can get WAY better deals than what you're posting. Please give a location and possible retailers so we can better serve you. :)
....gm
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19. September 2007 @ 10:35 |
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dreamer2
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19. September 2007 @ 10:42 |
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i m from US. i can get from newegg but i m not sure what to get. i m confused. i will be very thankful to you if u give me all specifications because i never made any pc before.
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19. September 2007 @ 10:49 |
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The motherboard can be had for about 100. I use that motherboard and it is an excellent choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012
I already gave you links to the CPU and Memory.
Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%2b900
Video Card:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082
I personally use a Ultra XVS 700 W PSU. It works fine, but other people would better advise you with PSUs.
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19. September 2007 @ 11:03 |
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my choice of memory is Corsair XMS PC2 6400 2gb for only $64 after MIR.
I prefer a modular p/s. here's a good one for only $126.90 after MIR.
good choice for the cpu. the gigabyte is a good choice too although asus does have some good choices as well but most of them will cost you a little more. I rarely stray away from asus though.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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19. September 2007 @ 12:15 |
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QUESTION ! Most PSU range from 18 to 22 amps.Now I've got the Radeon Saphire 1900G,it recommends 25 amp.I've got an Enermax 620W Dual Quad+18
its only 22 amp.Will this be sufficient power for the card,along with 2 Samsung 500 Gig HDD,1 Liteon LH20 DVDRW.
Motherboard is the ASUS Crosshair with AMD Dual-Core 6000+
Need a little feed back Please B4 I get this assembled
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19. September 2007 @ 12:35 |
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I think that Mort81 and Abuzar1 have answered some questions. :)
You can get 2 of these Optiarcs (sony) for the price you mentioned.
I like this LiteOn as well....it's newer so you might need a f/w update but DON'T be afraid of this drive. :)
btw there is "un-official" f/w updates for most WELL known optical drives (NEC_Optiarc, LiteOn, Pioneer just to name a few) so don't be afraid to ask about that either. :D
P/S....personal preference but Mort81 linked to a good one. :)
DON'T be fooled by some of the specs stated in the product review of some P/S. I know from first hand (3 low end p/s) that buying a GOOD P/S is the thing to do. I haven't had any failures yet but I'm lucky that way I guess. :D
How can you go wrong with Corsair RAM for $65 after MIR??
...gm
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19. September 2007 @ 14:34 |
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Wish I had seen this 1st[Ultra XVS 700 W PSU] its even less then what I paid and its a 40amp.But alas I did buy what I thought was a proper PSU until I read the specs on the Vid card [25amp rec.].Still my question being will this 22amp PSU suffice,or will it shut down,run hot or what ?
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19. September 2007 @ 15:06 |
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i had this wish list from before. so i want to know that the one i posted before is better or these items that i listed below are good thanks
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: VA8000BWS
Item #: N82E16811133154
$149.99 $149.99
ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5WDH DELUXE/WIFI-AP
Item #: N82E16813131025
In Stock
$188.99 $188.99
Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail
Model #: TP3-650
Item #: N82E16817371001
$129.99 $129.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6600
Item #: N82E16819115003
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
In Stock
$229.99 $229.99
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G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy
In Stock
$109.99 -$40.00 Instant $69.99
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3500630AS
Item #: N82E16822148136
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
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$119.99 $119.99
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19. September 2007 @ 17:39 |
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dreamer2
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Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: VA8000BWS
Item #: N82E16811133154
$149.99 $149.99
here's the same case for $80 less shipping. that's a nice/good case but personally I prefer the mid to upper level cooler masters cases (aluminum and true tooless design not to mention their good ventilation).
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6600
Item #: N82E16819115003
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
In Stock
$229.99 $229.99
I would opt for the intel E6750. more bang for the buck and only $10 more.
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ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5WDH DELUXE/WIFI-AP
Item #: N82E16813131025
In Stock
$188.99 $188.99
good mobo. I luv mine. it will require 2206 (2104 actually but it's been superseded by 2206) bios version or later for cpu's with 1333 fsb so if you go with the E6750 check with the vendor where you buy it to be sure it has that bios or later so it will accomodate 1333 fsb cpu's. you might be able to flash it yourself if it will only recognize the cpu at 1066 fsb, not sure though.
the only con is this mobo runs warm and before installing the mobo, I recommend removing the northbridge and southbridge heatsinks and reinstalling/reseating them with some artic silver 5 thermal compound. I even installed a 40x40x20 chipset fan on both the NB and SB heatsinks. made a big improvement.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. September 2007 @ 17:52
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19. September 2007 @ 21:40 |
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@dreamer2
Take a look at this P/S...way Better then the one you listed...
PC POWER and COOLING Silencer 610 EPS12V S61EPS Power Supply Retail ***Free Shipping*** $138
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...ctCode=10005612
This is an incredible deal on one of the highest rated P/S...The Antec is not even comparable to the PC Power & Cooling Unit...
@rick5446
The 25amps must be the recommended amps for the complete system...Not just the video card...1900 are not that power hungry...Could you post a link to the P/S you bought...If you want a Monster P/S...Go with the one I mentioned to Dreamer2...Nothing will touch It at that price range...
@dreamer2
I wouldn't recommend you do the N/B mod until after you have checked the system completely...once you Mod it...No More warranty...So make sure the M/B is Ok...Before removing the N/B cooler...
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20. September 2007 @ 04:03 |
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At full load, the X1900XT consumes about 12A on the 12V rail. The 25A figure is the recommended total, since my CPU probably consumes around 15A factoring in the efficiency of the VRMs. That's 27A right there, before you factor in the hard disks (another 3A to be safe), CD-ROM drive (another 1.5A), fans (another 1A), memory and chipset power usage (4A for high end gear) - all in all for my system I'm probably looking at maybe 37 to 38A. Not a problem since my PSU can put out 62A on the 12V rail, but nonetheless it demonstrates why power supply requirements are set far higher than what the card uses.
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20. September 2007 @ 11:50 |
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i m still trying to figure out which mobo to use. does the price really matter in mobo some are 250 and some are 100 but 100 ones are good too
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20. September 2007 @ 11:54 |
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For core 2 Duos and the like I recommend the GA-965P-DS3 from gigabyte. The P5W DH Deluxe is just as good though, but probably more expensive.
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20. September 2007 @ 12:10 |
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sammorris..Thanks for the insight
I guess I better look for another PSU..The Enermax 22amp won't be sufficient power for the card,along with 2 Samsung 500 Gig HDD,1 Liteon LH20 DVDRW.
ASUS Crosshair MB with AMD Dual-Core 6000+..2Gig Mem..3 Fans
Any Suggestions ? I'm kinda lookin at these
What do U think of that 39 or 49amp mentioned earlier..looked for the link to newegg,but can't find it.
Also..Ultra XVS Modular 700W ATX Power Supply 40amp..I think I'D be partial to this one,Cables are a little impressive,enough wattage, & amps
http://www.cheapguys.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=127
Now that is if the Enermax isn't going to cut the mustard
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20. September 2007 @ 12:12 |
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22A is a bit low on the +12V rail. I personally recommend the Corsair HX 520W, I don't know how it compares to the XVS cost-wise, but it's very quiet (not many Ultra power supplies are).
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