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Neverhap
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6. October 2007 @ 02:52 |
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Mort81,
Not sure a 500VA UPS will work for you. I have a similar system as you, E6600, 2 gigs memory, 2 burners, 4 HDD, and a low wattage GPU card, and a 600 watt PSU. Anyway, my 700VA UPS went north on me the other month and I replaced it with my wife's 500VA (I have 2, but the other one was not charged), which she uses on her laptop, and all it did was beep constantly and not power up my desktop and monitor, so I assumed it had not enough wattage to power up.
Anyway, bought a 900VA just to be on the save side, and all is well again.
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6. October 2007 @ 03:40 |
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Spenman91: I know all about what a 360 sounds like without an intercooler, let alone with one. I won't go into it much here, but suffice to say they're a complete con, and if you've got one, get rid of it before it damages your 360, they make the cooling far worse, not better. Think about the science of how they're supposed to work.
The Thermaltake 500W PSU is good, that'll serve you well, you don't need a top-end PSU to run that sort of gear.
World of Warcraft isn't the most demanding of games because of its age, a 7300LE would probably suffice. You made the right decisions all round.
Poorlad: A good cover-all PSU is a Corsair HX 520W or an OCZ StealthXstream 600W unit. There are a few good brands of RAM, Corsair, G-Skill, Patriot, Crucial, pick something that's PC6400 CAS4 from any of those brands and you should be alright.
Lp: I hardly think you should be making people shell out on unnecessary PSUs. Granted, the PSU is the most important component in a system, but there are more good power supplies out there than just those made by PC P&C, they're not exactly cheap either.
Neverhap: 900VA is probably what I'd recommend in truth, a 500VA UPS can run this PC:
X2 4200+ SKT939 (Water cooled)
2x512MB PC3200 CAS2
X1900XT-X
DFI Nforce 4 Ultra D
but with that PC and a 24" monitor, It will shut everything down.
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6. October 2007 @ 03:50 |
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Originally posted by sam:
Lp: I hardly think you should be making people shell out on unnecessary PSUs. Granted, the PSU is the most important component in a system, but there are more good power supplies out there than just those made by PC P&C, they're not exactly cheap either.
You know what's FUNNY is the Corsair unit you reference is the same price as the PC Power & Cooling 610W unit Lp links to. :) The OCZ unit is only $20 cheaper before savings so I don't think that Lp is out of line at all sam. I do agree there are GOOD psu's out there besides the PC Power & Cooling units but I REALLY like the premise behind them and the QUALITY they have and the customer satisfaction is extremely high as well. :P jm2c....
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6. October 2007 @ 04:59 |
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Fair enough, the Corsair and OCZ units are cheaper over here in the UK.
Besides, nobody who I know that has a Corsair PSU (that is a few people) isn't satisfied, and they're much quieter than the PCP&C Silencer units, which I obviously like!
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6. October 2007 @ 07:47 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Fair enough, the Corsair and OCZ units are cheaper over here in the UK.
Besides, nobody who I know that has a Corsair PSU (that is a few people) isn't satisfied, and they're much quieter than the PCP&C Silencer units, which I obviously like!
OCD mean anything to you buddy!! :P
I think the 2 PSU's you mentioned are great btw, BUT in all fairness to Lp in particular they are similar in price and customer satisfaction. That was the only point I had sam. We can go round and round all day but the 3 psu's we're talking about are GOOD without question. :D
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6. October 2007 @ 08:49 |
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@poorlad,
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if I ordered all this through newegg at the same time, would it be shipped in one box, or at the same time in seperate packages?
I've gotten quite a few orders from Newegg and they always put the CPU, Video Card, RAM, Motherboard, CPU cooler, HDD, Optical Drives etc in one box and the case will come in it's own. They will let you know if something will be delayed. The exception to this is if something comes from a different warehouse than the main one in CA. They have one in Louisville, KY as well.
This is a PC I assembled for my sister-in-law's small business:
The case box was a bit beat up but the case was fine.
All the parts:
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6. October 2007 @ 09:48 |
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Just thought I would add a little bit about the Intercooler. It actually uses the power going to your xbox to power itself, so all the parts in your xbox don't get enough power. This ends up messing up your parts.
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6. October 2007 @ 10:21 |
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Hadn't thought about that one, but I imagine there's a bit of overhead on the power brick just in case, so I doubt it causes many issues.
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6. October 2007 @ 11:33 |
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@sammorris
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I hardly think you should be making people shell out on unnecessary PSUs. Granted, the PSU is the most important component in a system, but there are more good power supplies out there than just those made by PC P&C, they're not exactly cheap either.
The P/S were all in the same price range...In fact it was cheaper then some...The PC Power & Cooling P/S will mop the floor with the other P/S listed...All the others were multi rail units which are inferior to a single rail P/S...I do not care if a P/S has Modular cables or Led lights...Those are all marketing gimmicks...that do nothing for performance...
The PC Power & Cooling P/S is all about performance... they are not noisy as you have inferred...I do not know where you came by that information...Because it is absolutely wrong...
Poorlad is looking at a Quad core with (2) 8950GTX's which at this point are unknown entities...the 8950's power consumption is unknown...however it is safe to assume they will be equal or more then 8800GTX's...which would make the 750 Quad(4 PCI-E connectors) the only P/S of the bunch that would meet his needs...
My feeling are Once you break the $100 range on a P/S...you should look at a PC Power & Cooling P/S...If you can afford the extra cash...As you said...Quote:
the PSU is the most important component in a system...
so why would you feel that I am misleading poorlad...You have to admit the PC Power & Cooling P/S is superior in every single spec listed on the P/S...Plus they have a better reputation then any of the other P/S manufactures that were listed...Its always Cheaper to Buy Once vs Buying Twice..:)
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6. October 2007 @ 14:20 |
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I have nothing against PC Power & cooling, but I know the Corsair and OCZ are proven units for reliability. Granted, the single rail system is superior to multi-rail, but if the Corsair 620W can run two 8800GTXs with a quad core CPU, I don't see why modular units are such a problem, provided they're well made.
I forget where I read the info on the 610w being above the noise level of the Corsair unit, I was certain I read it at SPCR, but can't find the link.
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6. October 2007 @ 18:32 |
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From what I've read it was OCZ's intention to aquire a flagship line of PSUs. Obiously you can still buy both brands. I think all of them recommended here by Sam and Lp are excellent and would like to own one for myself.
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7. October 2007 @ 03:43 |
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Indeed. Some of the OCZ PSUs weren't exactly top notch, but most of them are pretty solid, including the stealthxstream which also has the advantage of being quite cheap.
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7. October 2007 @ 04:26 |
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7. October 2007 @ 05:21 |
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That's very cheap for that card, it's not as good as my X1900XT, but considering the price of rival cards, it's an absolute bargain!
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7. October 2007 @ 06:23 |
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How much better than a 7600 GT is it?
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7. October 2007 @ 06:46 |
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Let's see, what resolution do you play at?
For tests conducted at 1600x1200 Max detail with AA/AF:
Battlefield 2142: 85% better
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: 121% better
Doom 3: 39% better
Flight Simulator X: 12% worse
Elder Scrolls 4:Oblivion (Outdoors): 165% better
Prey: 65% better
Warhammer: Mark of Chaos v1.6: 56% better
3DMark06 SM2.0 Test: 72% better
3DMark06 SM3.0 Test: 13% better
Tests from Tom's Hardware
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7. October 2007 @ 08:35 |
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So pretty damn better heh. Lets see what happens, I might end up gettin it if it doesn't go out of stock.
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7. October 2007 @ 08:43 |
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Then buy it quickly! lol
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7. October 2007 @ 20:33 |
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@fasfrank,
Thanks for posting some pics. :)
@ALL,
Was doing some research and found that the PC Power & Cooling site sells there P/S. I didn't go thru the process but it let me go all the way to: Enter credit card # and press PAY. :D Has anyone looked at their prices or ordered from them directly?
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7. October 2007 @ 20:51 |
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Nope...never ordered direct...they have the best price on the 610 that I have seen...$119...You can get the 750 Quad at ZZF cheaper...They have some good prices on Refurbished...they should be good direct from the factory...
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7. October 2007 @ 22:37 |
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I have a few questions to ask. wat is 'mobo'. why did alcohol 120% crashed my computer when it was about to finish load. Dod it have a virus? Was it the incompatability? I have windows vista. My cuz runs it on win2000 and he says that it works fine. So he said! I A dim C521. Is that good it has:
amd64 x2 4000+ (2.1ghz)
160gb sata 2 7200 rpm dim,s
16x dvd+/- rw
1gb ddr2 sdram 667mhz - 2x512mb
vista basic
intel graphics media accelerator x3000 .....Wat is that?.....
it have a bilt in graphics card
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8. October 2007 @ 03:19 |
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1. A mobo is short-hand for Motherboard, the main circuit board that interacts with all the components in a PC.
2. As for Alcohol crashing, there could be many reasons, but it shouldn't crash because of a corrupt image file. However, I haven't used it on Vista myself, but it works fine for me in XP.
3. Well, whether it's good or not depends on what you use it for. The CPU's OK, and 1GB RAM is acceptable, though not great, but the graphics accelerator is near-useless for playing games. Of course, if it's an office machine, that doesn't matter, but don't expect to play up to date games on it as it simply won't cope. Also, in having chosen a Dell system it'll be quite difficult to upgrade.
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8. October 2007 @ 21:10 |
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thanks sammorris. One question again why is it that my msn messenger isn't working. They say that it is not connected to the .Net messenger service. how can i fix it
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9. October 2007 @ 00:43 |
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That could be for any number of reasons. Check firewall settings, re-enter username and password, and check the service status.
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9. October 2007 @ 20:41 |
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I'm looking at CPU's for my HTCP build...Using Old Spare parts that are lying around...DFI CFX3200-DR/G a 939 pin M/B...I have a 3800 San Diego...Looking at upgrading Because I plan on using Vista...and once installed I can not upgrade CPU...with out getting a new O/S...
AMD Opteron 175 Denmark 2.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail $116 FREE SHIPPING
Operating Frequency 2.2GHz
HT 1000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 1MB
Manufacturing Tech 90 nm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103584
Or this:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - OEM $73.50 FREE SHIPPING
Operating Frequency 2.2GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 512KB
Manufacturing Tech 90 nm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103543
Or This:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Toledo 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - OEM $59.50 FREE SHIPPING
Operating Frequency 2.0GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 512KB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103052
This will be the Downstairs Media Server...Will probably O/C it a bit since I have a M/B capable of it...It will have to playback HD Recorded Movies...This is Not my Gaming Rig...
Do you think I even need to go with a Duo Core CPU?..
If so...Which one would give the Best Bang for the Buck?..
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